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« on: June 10, 2022, 10:16:32 am »

This looks rather good...



http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2022/Jun/Ireland-orchestral-CHSA5293.htm

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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2022, 06:02:21 pm »

John Wilson has done some thrilling recordings for Chandos but he already recorded an Ireland disc with the Hallé before. I confess I was a bit disappointed with his take on Satyricon. The Hickox discs were my first encounter with Ireland in the early 90s. He probably took some licence with the tempo in the middle section of Satyricon but to me this added real romance to the piece. Listening to Wilson his straight approach left me cold. The playing was of course unquestionably great but along with the Chandos acoustics Hickox did it for me. I am tempted to try this new Wilson/Chandos but...
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2022, 06:11:58 pm »

John Wilson has done some thrilling recordings for Chandos but he already recorded an Ireland disc with the Hallé before. I confess I was a bit disappointed with his take on Satyricon. The Hickox discs were my first encounter with Ireland in the early 90s. He probably took some licence with the tempo in the middle section of Satyricon but to me this added real romance to the piece. Listening to Wilson his straight approach left me cold. The playing was of course unquestionably great but along with the Chandos acoustics Hickox did it for me. I am tempted to try this new Wilson/Chandos but...

I think it was Boult on Lyrita who first did John Ireland's orchestral works great favours, and his recordings still stand up well (to say that the Piano Concerto was once so hugely popular it's never heard now). My favourite work is The Forgotten Rite, it reminds me somewhat of Bax at his most mysterious. I may give this new Chandos disc a spin simply because I greatly admire both composer and conductor, but I wish that he and Chandos would get back to exploring previously-unrecorded British repertoire...

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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2022, 06:48:52 pm »

John Wilson has done some thrilling recordings for Chandos but he already recorded an Ireland disc with the Hallé before. I confess I was a bit disappointed with his take on Satyricon. The Hickox discs were my first encounter with Ireland in the early 90s. He probably took some licence with the tempo in the middle section of Satyricon but to me this added real romance to the piece. Listening to Wilson his straight approach left me cold. The playing was of course unquestionably great but along with the Chandos acoustics Hickox did it for me. I am tempted to try this new Wilson/Chandos but...

I think it was Boult on Lyrita who first did John Ireland's orchestral works great favours, and his recordings still stand up well (to say that the Piano Concerto was once so hugely popular it's never heard now). My favourite work is The Forgotten Rite, it reminds me somewhat of Bax at his most mysterious. I may give this new Chandos disc a spin simply because I greatly admire both composer and conductor, but I wish that he and Chandos would get back to exploring previously-unrecorded British repertoire...

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I have recordings by Barbirolli and the Hallé of Mai-Dun and The Forgotten Rite but they date, I think, from the early 1950s and so while they are fine interpretations, the 'fi' is far from 'hi'.
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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2022, 06:54:53 pm »

John Wilson has done some thrilling recordings for Chandos but he already recorded an Ireland disc with the Hallé before. I confess I was a bit disappointed with his take on Satyricon. The Hickox discs were my first encounter with Ireland in the early 90s. He probably took some licence with the tempo in the middle section of Satyricon but to me this added real romance to the piece. Listening to Wilson his straight approach left me cold. The playing was of course unquestionably great but along with the Chandos acoustics Hickox did it for me. I am tempted to try this new Wilson/Chandos but...

I think it was Boult on Lyrita who first did John Ireland's orchestral works great favours, and his recordings still stand up well (to say that the Piano Concerto was once so hugely popular it's never heard now). My favourite work is The Forgotten Rite, it reminds me somewhat of Bax at his most mysterious. I may give this new Chandos disc a spin simply because I greatly admire both composer and conductor, but I wish that he and Chandos would get back to exploring previously-unrecorded British repertoire...

 :)

I have recordings by Barbirolli and the Hallé of Mai-Dun and The Forgotten Rite but they date, I think, from the early 1950s and so while they are fine interpretations, the 'fi' is far from 'hi'.

Alas, my "fi" is far from "hi", though it's currently rather pleasantly numbed to the horrors by several 9% Karpackies...

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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2022, 02:40:31 am »

John Wilson has done some thrilling recordings for Chandos but he already recorded an Ireland disc with the Hallé before. I confess I was a bit disappointed with his take on Satyricon. The Hickox discs were my first encounter with Ireland in the early 90s. He probably took some licence with the tempo in the middle section of Satyricon but to me this added real romance to the piece. Listening to Wilson his straight approach left me cold. The playing was of course unquestionably great but along with the Chandos acoustics Hickox did it for me. I am tempted to try this new Wilson/Chandos but...

I think it was Boult on Lyrita who first did John Ireland's orchestral works great favours, and his recordings still stand up well (to say that the Piano Concerto was once so hugely popular it's never heard now). My favourite work is The Forgotten Rite, it reminds me somewhat of Bax at his most mysterious. I may give this new Chandos disc a spin simply because I greatly admire both composer and conductor, but I wish that he and Chandos would get back to exploring previously-unrecorded British repertoire...

 :)

I have recordings by Barbirolli and the Hallé of Mai-Dun and The Forgotten Rite but they date, I think, from the early 1950s and so while they are fine interpretations, the 'fi' is far from 'hi'.
The recordings by Barbirolli are,actually,my favourite's! The ancient old mono recordings just seem to add a degree of atmosphere that makes them my first port of call,even above Boult! This goes for These Things Shall Be,as well! In fact,that's probably the only recording I really enjoy of that work! His recording of Bax's Third Symphony is also the best recording of any Bax symphony ever,imho (as they say!). And I say that as a self confessed Baxian! (I even like Winter Legends :o,which someone at the GMG described as sounding like woolly mammoths (leaping about! ŕ la,Beecham,I suppose?!*) Of course,this is all yet more evidence that I'm obviously heading for the knackers yard (Like Ginger in Black Beauty!) :(


* On Beethoven's Seventh: "It's like a lot of yaks jumping around!"!
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2022, 12:26:53 pm »

I have the Naxos recording. This is also on my list to get.  Thanks
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