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Sir Charles Villiers Stanford (1852-1924)


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« on: July 23, 2021, 10:59:21 pm »

Cross-posting from another thread:

Member Chris Howell has alerted us to his series of extremely valuable articles on Charles Villiers Stanford:

1. http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2018/May/Stanfordian_thoughts_1.pdf

2. http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2018/Jun/Stanfordian_thoughts_2.pdf

3. http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2018/Jul/Stanfordian_3_VC2.pdf

4. http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2018/Jul/Stanfordian_thoughts_4.pdf

5. http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2018/Aug/Stanfordian_thoughts_5.pdf

6. http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2018/Sep/Stanfordian_thoughts_6.pdf

7. http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2018/Nov/Stanfordian_thoughts_7.pdf

8. http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2018/Dec/Stanfordian_thoughts_8.pdf

9. http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2019/Jan/Stanfordian_thoughts_9.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2021, 11:26:41 pm »

Blessed as we are with two complete Stanford symphonic cycles on disc (Vernon Handley on Chandos and David-Lloyd Jones on Naxos), which is preferable? In some cases Handley's pioneering series takes precedent, but in Nos. 5 and 6 (possibly the best of the seven) the Naxos recording wins out: No.5 has more energy (especially in the finale) under Lloyd-Jones and No.6 is also tauter, with a much cleaner recorded balance which gives the important harp part due prominence. Handley is superior in the Irish (No.3), covering the structural joins much more successfully. As for the others - swings and roundabouts. Better be on the safe side and acquire both sets!



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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2021, 10:36:36 am »

Blessed as we are with two complete Stanford symphonic cycles on disc (Vernon Handley on Chandos and David-Lloyd Jones on Naxos), which is preferable? In some cases Handley's pioneering series takes precedent, but in Nos. 5 and 6 (possibly the best of the seven) the Naxos recording wins out: No.5 has more energy (especially in the finale) under Lloyd-Jones and No.6 is also tauter, with a much cleaner recorded balance which gives the important harp part due prominence. Handley is superior in the Irish (No.3), covering the structural joins much more successfully. As for the others - swings and roundabouts. Better be on the safe side and acquire both sets!

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I have the Handley set; I've not heard any of the Lloyd-Jones and so I can't make any comparisons but your 'swings and roundabouts' point goes to emphasise that, as with any great piece of music, there can be innumerable valid interpretations of these symphonies.

That's not to say there can't be even more invalid ones, of course, but that's a different argument! I was always intrigued by Ravel's comment to the effect that "I want no interpretation, it is enough to play what is written".  His own piano recordings give the lie to that, of course; I'm sure he was merely objecting to those invalid interpretations. The eternal challenge for performers is to be able to distinguish the one from t'other!  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2021, 11:08:38 am »

I've not heard any of the Lloyd-Jones and so I can't make any comparisons

I'd definitely recommend Lloyd-Jones in Nos. 5 and 6 - whether you can download these individually I don't know...

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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2021, 11:20:08 am »

I've not heard any of the Lloyd-Jones and so I can't make any comparisons

I'd definitely recommend Lloyd-Jones in Nos. 5 and 6 - whether you can download these individually I don't know...

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Thank you. I shall do some snooping. Wink
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