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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2018, 02:06:48 pm »

An interesting update Colin.
I would especially like to hear the Robin Orr symphonies as I like his 'Symphony in One Movement' very much.
I wish that Ruth Gipps's 4th had been released on CD.
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2018, 09:30:35 pm »

Most unfortunately, all the performance material of York Bowen's 3rd symphony was destroyed in a flood at the publishers. So a new score, were one ever to be produced, would have to be reconstructed from the recordings - I believe there are two. Quite a task!
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2018, 04:28:08 pm »

I wish Martin could be persuaded, but it really is a major undertaking, and rather different from orchestrating a piano score. Not that he wouldn't be eminently capable, but it would involve a lot of time.
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2018, 04:49:45 pm »

Yes, I fully understand and accept that. I have removed the symphony from my list above.

I am a little surprised that you have not castigated me for including the unrecorded Holbrooke symphonies, Gareth, but I am never quite sure which still are extant and-equally important and more difficult-how to number them
Indeed! And here I am,impatiently waiting,for the next release in the Cpo series,which,apparently,includes his Symphony No 3 "Ships"! ;D Can't wait to cross that one off my "list"! :)
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2018, 12:35:05 pm »

Well, I don't want to castigate anyone, but the unrecorded extant symphonies of Holbrooke are:
Dramatic Choral Symphony, Homage (sic) to E.A. Poe (unnumbered, but effectively No. 1)
Symphony No. 1 "Les Hommages" (a version for very large orchestra of the earlier Bohemian Suite for strings - the difference lies only in the instrumentation)
Symphony No. 2 "Apollo and the Seaman"
Symphony No. 5 "Wild Wales", for brass band
Symphony No. 6 "Old England", for military band
Symphony No. 7 "Al Aaraaf", for strings (an arrangement of the String Sextet, Op. 43)
Symphony No. 8, "Dance Symphony" for piano and orchestra (also known as Piano Concerto No. 3, and really a piano concerto - the full score is missing; only the two piano score exists, but I am hoping to interest someone in orchestrating it)

So there we are. Plenty to be going on with!

I would also like to see Stanley Wilson's two symphonies recorded:
A Skye Symphony (a Carnegie Medal winner, score & parts published Stainer & Bell)
Symphony No. 2 for chorus and orchestra (unpublished; MS at RCM)
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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2018, 02:11:52 pm »

I read somewhere that Howard Griffiths was stepping down this year,from his post as conductor of the Brandenburgisches Staatsorchester. If this is true it might not bode well for any further recordings of Holbrooke,I fear?! :(
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2018, 03:11:34 pm »

My contact at CPO tells me the Holbrooke disk should be released this year. Let us hope so.
Howard may be working with some  British orchestras in future and there is a possibility that some of Holbrooke's choral music may be recorded with a British orchestra and chorus under Howard Griffiths' baton. However, none of this is confirmed. So we must just all hope and pray.
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2018, 03:59:31 pm »

Thank you,Gareth! :) I hope so and look forward to it's release. I thought the last Cpo release was,very possibly,the finest Holbrooke cd ever?! Although,I like all the Holbrooke cd's I've heard! I hope that the latter comes to fruition. I'd love a chance to hear his choral music. I may be in a minority,but I love his music.
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2019, 12:42:43 am »

Did David Matthews Symphony No. 9 get recorded?  It's been several years since it was composed so I would imagine it's out?
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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2019, 01:38:03 am »

To expand on my post above:

Nimbus have recorded the Symphony No.9, op.140 (2016) along with the Double Concerto for Violin, Viola and strings, op.122 (2013) and the Variations on Bach's Chorale "Die Nacht ist Kommen" for strings, op.40 (1986) with the English Symphony Orchestra under Kenneth Woods. The release is planned for "early 2019" (although one has learned to be cautious about such statements!).

Chandos recorded the Symphony No.8, op.131 (2014), "A Vision of the Sea" for orchestra, op. 125 (2013) and "Toward Sunrise" for orchestra, op. 117 (2011-12) in November 2017 with the B.B.C. Philharmonic Orchestra under Jac van Steen.

The first performance of the new Concerto for Orchestra, op.151 is planned for May.

There are only a very few, short orchestral works of David Matthews-mostly for small orchestra or for strings-which have not been recorded :)

Fascinating.  It seems as though the industry records but waits until the maximum opportunity to release the recording.  So we need patience. 
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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2019, 04:49:50 pm »

"Maximum opportunity" meaning exactly what?

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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2019, 01:05:47 am »

"Maximum opportunity" meaning exactly what?


Well, they have a recording and are holding it.  I don't think I can answer when they will release it but I assume they are holding it to release when it is most beneficial to them.  Ask them.
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2019, 08:54:43 am »

While many of these symphonies may be well known, there are a surprising number of unrecorded and/or rare British Symphonies here.
https://atuneadayblogdotcom.wordpress.com/british-symphonies/
https://atuneadayblogdotcom.wordpress.com/british-symphonies-1900-2000/
https://atuneadayblogdotcom.wordpress.com/british-symphonies-1950-1999/
https://atuneadayblogdotcom.wordpress.com/british-symphonies-2000/
Each of these sections contain interesting composer bios which can be accessedvia hyperlinks at the beginning of each of the above.

Here are the composer bios:
https://atuneadayblogdotcom.wordpress.com/composers/
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2019, 04:49:41 pm »

Unfortunately, the music to a great many of those listed before 1900 is lost. These lists are not very useful unless they tell us where the performance materials can be found - a little extra work on the part of the compilers would have added greatly to their value.
One wonders about the quality of some of the late 19th century British symphonies (certainly Joseph Street's, the scores of which are in BL and which I have seen, are pretty uninspired), but there may be some gold among the dross and I particularly wish that the MSS of Algernon Ashton's symphonies and concertos, which were never published, had not been destroyed in the blitz. I suspect they were better than good.
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