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« Reply #435 on: September 26, 2017, 10:26:12 am »

Good lord, how wonderful to find Judith here! I never thought I would hear it! And yes, a decent performance. I have loved Job for many years, and find in it much that I think Elgar learned from in his oratorios (the Lament of Job in particular reminds me of Judas in the Apostles). Now, keep an eye out for King Saul...
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« Reply #436 on: September 26, 2017, 02:31:58 pm »

OK, JollyRoger, I am now on my way into Vaughan Williams choral land, thanks for the suggestion, best, Jim
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« Reply #437 on: September 26, 2017, 02:41:02 pm »

Really enjoyed Judith: maybe a bit long and rambling compared to Job, but some wonderful choruses and all very pleasant.
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« Reply #438 on: September 26, 2017, 02:55:12 pm »

OK, JollyRoger, I am now on my way into Vaughan Williams choral land, thanks for the suggestion, best, Jim

Ah, Mr. Jim - once you find yourself ensnared by VW choral land (& the like) you may never emerge; 'Towards the Unknown Region'. 'Dona Nobis Pacem', 'Flos Campi', 'Hodie',  'In Windsor Forest'....+ a few !
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« Reply #439 on: September 26, 2017, 03:12:13 pm »

Indeed! Hours of listening pleasure. But don't forget Holst's choral music,vocal music and parts songs,either! But,one at a time!! VW,first! Grin Smiley
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« Reply #440 on: September 26, 2017, 04:17:02 pm »

Really enjoyed Judith: maybe a bit long and rambling compared to Job, but some wonderful choruses and all very pleasant.
I'm looking forward to hearing this myself. I'll be getting some more cd-r's,first,though!
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« Reply #441 on: October 05, 2017, 02:49:43 pm »

What exactly are the "constraints" and "detriment" you allude to (even if only in a speculative way)?  Could you be more clear?  Fine if we eventually "hear from someone involved", but let's discuss the possibilities while we wait for that.  You apparently have some knowledge and experience of what can occur in these circumstances.  Why not share more precisely the thing(s) you have in mind?


Well, what I meant is that in music school we were told if you have only 20 minutes to work with the orchestra and wrote a piece that would require 30 minutes to properly execute it, you failed in meeting the constraints you had.  The result is subpar or incomplete performance which does not reflect well on your intention or the quality of your work.  That is the detriment.  Perhaps the schedule would not allow all the music to be properly rehearsed so jettisoning a movement would be preferential than a disastrous complete performance.   That was what I was speculating on. 

Robin Holloway responded to my question about the "cut" in the Fourth Concerto and here is what he said:

it was too long!!  Something had to go--- & it was generous of MTT & the orchestra to play so much as they did.  They ran the omitted movement through for me at rehearsal---pretty well; but unfortunately the mikes were not switched on. Introducing the 3 performances, MTT explained circumstances, & got a laugh every night  for "in San Francisco we lose our virtues" (the missing section depicts the 7 Cardinal Virtues,
balancing the 7 Deadly Sins of 3rd mvt.). Thanks for your kind words! & all best,

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« Reply #442 on: October 05, 2017, 04:12:04 pm »

With all due respect to Robin Holloway-and it certainly is to his credit that he has at least provided a response-he has not provided an answer to the actual question. It was "too long". Too long for what or for whom? Something "had to go". Did it? Why?
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« Reply #443 on: March 08, 2018, 02:29:20 pm »

Many thanks for the upload of the Dorothy Howell  Concerto.

There is of course a cd version of this concerto on Cameo Classics but Danny Driver might be considered a more reliable and expert soloist in such rare repertoire and he has a somewhat finer orchestra to accompany him.
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« Reply #444 on: March 08, 2018, 06:43:45 pm »

The BBC website makes clear that this is the recording of the Howell Piano concerto as issued commercially by hyperion:

Piano Concerto in D minor

Performer: Danny Driver. Orchestra: BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra. Conductor: Rebecca Miller.
THE ROMANTIC PIANO CONCERTO 70 - BEACH, CHAMINADE & HOWELL. HYPERION. 001.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09tcw0y

Therefore it should be removed immediately from this site I think.
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« Reply #445 on: March 08, 2018, 07:07:40 pm »

Obviously that is the correct thing to do!

I didn't appreciate that there was an alternative recording on Hyperion. Just shows how much I am "into" romantic piano concertos 
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« Reply #446 on: March 08, 2018, 08:40:02 pm »

Whoops, will delete the linked file immediately.

Actually the leading talk didn't mention was a recording at all, it gave the impression that it was recently recorded concert.
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« Reply #447 on: March 27, 2018, 12:53:24 pm »

WARNING : In the post by "Latvian" from February 20, 2016, the work listed as Aloys Fleischmann's Prelude and Dance (1940) is actually Ina Boyle's Violin Concerto (1935). The performers are indeed The Ulster Orchestra conducted by Kenneth Montgomery, with violinist Catherine Leonard. I take the opportunity to thank you for all the treasures you uploaded !
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« Reply #448 on: March 27, 2018, 08:40:44 pm »

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WARNING : In the post by "Latvian" from February 20, 2016, the work listed as Aloys Fleischmann's Prelude and Dance (1940) is actually Ina Boyle's Violin Concerto (1935). The performers are indeed The Ulster Orchestra conducted by Kenneth Montgomery, with violinist Catherine Leonard. I take the opportunity to thank you for all the treasures you uploaded !

Thank you for offering a correction to my upload information, but it would have been more polite to notify me privately so that I could fix the problem. I must have uploaded the wrong file and not realized it. If I still have the correct file I will replace the incorrect upload as soon as I have a chance.
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« Reply #449 on: March 28, 2018, 11:27:28 am »

Thank you for offering a correction to my upload information, but it would have been more polite to notify me privately so that I could fix the problem. I must have uploaded the wrong file and not realized it. If I still have the correct file I will replace the incorrect upload as soon as I have a chance.

I'm sorry, but I had to notify everybody so that the persons who downloaded the file during its two years of existence know that they actually have a work by Boyle and not by Fleischmann... I did not think it would upset you.
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