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Title: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on May 01, 2021, 10:13:53 am
The programme has been announced for the Worcester Three Choirs Festival (24th July - 1st August):

https://3choirs.org/whats-on/ (https://3choirs.org/whats-on/)

 :)

 


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on May 01, 2021, 11:10:03 am
Thank you, John. I see at first glance that SC-T gets at least a mention in a talk! I will look through the programme in more detail later.


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on May 01, 2021, 11:58:24 am
There are some programmes here that make me wish I lived in Worcester. Not only SC-T's Clarinet Quintet (which seems very close to be becoming a standard repertoire work) but also his Solemn Prelude op 40 (which was composed for 1899 festival and which I have never heard) in a wonderful concert, the main work in which is Armstong Gibbs' choral Symphony No 2 ‘Odysseus’.  There's also a fair smattering of Elgar (not least The Music Makers) and a recital devoted almost entirely to the piano music of Herbert Howells, whose Cello Concerto later on shares a programme with Belshazzar's Feast and John Ireland's The Forgotten Rite. And lots more besides to gladden the heart and lift the spirits. I hope the BBC outside broadcast vans are in attendance...


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on May 01, 2021, 02:16:50 pm
Not only SC-T's Clarinet Quintet (which seems very close to be becoming a standard repertoire work) but also his Solemn Prelude op 40 (which was composed for 1899 festival and which I have never heard) in a wonderful concert, the main work in which is Armstong Gibbs' choral Symphony No 2 ‘Odysseus’.

Hearing the Solemn Prelude is a wonderful prospect (as is another performance of the Armstrong Gibbs) and I'm sure will warrant a broadcast. I wonder where an off-air recording might end up...

 ;D


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on May 01, 2021, 02:36:55 pm

Hearing the Solemn Prelude is a wonderful prospect (as is another performance of the Armstrong Gibbs) and I'm sure will warrant a broadcast. I wonder where an off-air recording might end up...

 ;D
:-X


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on May 01, 2021, 04:02:33 pm
He got the commission for the Solemn Prelude on the strength of the huge popular and critical success of his Ballade in A minor at the 1898 Three Choirs Festival - it will be fascinating to see how the Solemn Prelude measures up to this...

 :)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on May 01, 2021, 05:04:08 pm
He got the commission for the Solemn Prelude on the strength of the huge popular and critical success of his Ballade in A minor at the 1898 Three Choirs Festival - it will be fascinating to see how the Solemn Prelude measures up to this...

 :)
Yes, indeed. Given Novello's history in such matters it's quite an achievement for the orchestral librarian to track down the parts; as usual, while the string parts were printed, the wind parts and full score were only available in MS on hire from the publisher. If the parts are still available through Chester/Novello I'd be surprised. However, SC-T's MS full score is in the British Library and so if authentic new parts had to be created it would have been possible to do so.

I have read through SC-T's piano reduction at IMSLP; of course, he was a composer who thought orchestrally and it's documented that he didn't use the piano when composing. The piano reduction is decidedly clunky when viewed as piano music and although his wonderful skill as an orchestrator would have clothed this monochromatic version in glorious colours the detail of which we can only guess at (at least until 27 July!) the structure of the piece is, of course, clear and it reads to me as a very grand affair indeed. In one way, it's typical of its composer in terms of his use of thematic transformation and his clever modulations into a succession of remote keys. However, it's unusual in that he keeps to the same Lento tempo throughout, obviously keen to maintain the solemn mood indicated by the title.

An interesting factoid is that the Solemn Prelude was dedicated to Nicholas Kilburn, friend of Elgar (and dedicatee of The Music Makers).


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on May 01, 2021, 05:10:43 pm
I have read through SC-T's piano reduction at IMSLP

I've provided the IMSLP link in the individual composer thread.

Presumably S C-T did his own transcriptions of his orchestral works. The piano score of the Symphonic Variations on an African Air, Op.63 (1906) "plays" much better (it's a glorious piece and well worth tracking down in the performance by Grant Llewellyn and the RLPO originally on Argo 436 401-2)...

 :)



Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on May 01, 2021, 05:22:51 pm
I have read through SC-T's piano reduction at IMSLP

I've provided the IMSLP link in the individual composer thread.

Presumably S C-T did his own transcriptions of his orchestral works. The piano score of the Symphonic Variations on an African Air, Op.63 (1906) "plays" much better...

 :)


Thanks, John. I intended to do that but it fell out of my head before I got to it! I find that these days unless I do something immediately I think of it, it doesn't happen! Old age is not for cissies.  ;)

Yes, SC-T did his own transcriptions and you are right about the Symphonic Variations on an African Air playing much better. (It goes without saying that I agree with what you write about its being a glorious piece, and that the performance by Grant Llewellyn and the RLPO is top-notch.) I suspect that the variation in standard between one transcription and another had to do with the time that the poor man had available to undertake the task; I'm sure he'd have been unwilling to pay someone else to do it as he was frequently so strapped for cash. 


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on May 02, 2021, 08:35:15 am
Given Novello's history in such matters [of wanton destruction] it's quite an achievement for the orchestral librarian to track down the parts; as usual, while the string parts were printed, the wind parts and full score were only available in MS on hire from the publisher. If the parts are still available through Chester/Novello I'd be surprised. However, SC-T's MS full score is in the British Library and so if authentic new parts had to be created it would have been possible to do so.

Lewis Foreman's Lost and Only Sometimes Found tells a grim tale of full scores (including autographs) being dumped outside Novello's in skip-fulls which he had to try to rescue. Other publishers were apparently just as culpable...

https://www.ism.org/features/lost_and_only_sometimes_found (https://www.ism.org/features/lost_and_only_sometimes_found)

 :o


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on May 02, 2021, 09:44:07 am
Given Novello's history in such matters [of wanton destruction] it's quite an achievement for the orchestral librarian to track down the parts; as usual, while the string parts were printed, the wind parts and full score were only available in MS on hire from the publisher. If the parts are still available through Chester/Novello I'd be surprised. However, SC-T's MS full score is in the British Library and so if authentic new parts had to be created it would have been possible to do so.

Lewis Foreman's Lost and Only Sometimes Found tells a grim tale of full scores (including autographs) being dumped outside Novello's in skip-fulls which he had to try to rescue. Other publishers were apparently just as culpable...

https://www.ism.org/features/lost_and_only_sometimes_found (https://www.ism.org/features/lost_and_only_sometimes_found)

 :o
It's heart-breaking.

Now, if anyone deserves a knighthood for services to British music, it's Lewis Foreman.


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on May 02, 2021, 09:49:35 am
Now, if anyone deserves a knighthood for services to British music, it's Lewis Foreman.

How true! I am incredulous that the same honour wasn't given to Vernon Handley and Richard Hickox during their lifetimes...

 ::)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on May 02, 2021, 09:54:15 am
Now, if anyone deserves a knighthood for services to British music, it's Lewis Foreman.

How true! I am incredulous that the same honour wasn't given to Vernon Handley and Richard Hickox during their lifetimes...

 ::)
Agreed.


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on May 02, 2021, 07:24:03 pm
He got the commission for the Solemn Prelude on the strength of the huge popular and critical success of his Ballade in A minor at the 1898 Three Choirs Festival - it will be fascinating to see how the Solemn Prelude measures up to this...

 :)
The first performance of the Solemn Prelude in 1899 shared a programme with the first performance of the revised version of Elgar's Enigma Variations; now that's a concert for which I'd want to hitch a lift in Albion's time machine. Interestingly, Elgar found time to write to August Jaeger that "Taylor's prelude went well...  I revelled in the opening & the close but I could not 'sequentiate' (!)the middle: he is a dear chap & it's all so human and yearning". That seems to indicate that this is a work worth hearing.

Catherine Carr in her Durham Ph.D. thesis on SC-T writes of the Solemn Prelude that: "...the scale of Coleridge-Taylor's conception is largely symphonic; indeed the piece has more in common with those expansive slow movements of late nineteenth-century symphonists such as Tchaikovsky (notably the 'Pathetique', the key of which is shared by Solemn Prelude) which are dominated by two well defined, self-developing melodies in a largely rhapsodic form that is enhanced by the arresting effects of unexpected modulation... and by the sheer impact of the climactic material at the heart of the developmental phase. Moreover, Coleridge-Taylor's melodic style here is shot through with sequential writing (even more so than the secondary material of the Ballade), the contours of which strongly resemble Elgar's penchant for falling sixths and sevenths, and the dissonant appoggiaturas and passing notes in many ways anticipate those thoroughly distinctive gestures of Elgar's later style. Indeed this piece, with its sedate, introspective yet probing sentiment shares a profundity with the slow movement of Elgar's Second Symphony and the much-neglected Coronation March of 1911".

That augurs pretty well too!
 


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on May 03, 2021, 07:11:04 am
Elgar found time to write to August Jaeger that "Taylor's prelude went well...  I revelled in the opening & the close but I could not 'sequentiate' (!)the middle: he is a dear chap & it's all so human and yearning". That seems to indicate that this is a work worth hearing.

It certainly sounds like a substantial piece from Coleridge-Taylor's "halcyon" years when he was regarded as a rising star in the musical firmament. Well worth resurrecting, I'd say: hopefully the Three Choirs Festival performance in Worcester Cathedral will roll away the stone...

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/fa/b8/df/fab8df9a664bab99716701d753ed15e8--holy-week-christian-art.jpg)

 ;)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on May 03, 2021, 08:55:08 am
Elgar found time to write to August Jaeger that "Taylor's prelude went well...  I revelled in the opening & the close but I could not 'sequentiate' (!)the middle: he is a dear chap & it's all so human and yearning". That seems to indicate that this is a work worth hearing.

It certainly sounds like a substantial piece from Coleridge-Taylor's "halcyon" years when he was regarded as a rising star in the musical firmament. Well worth resurrecting, I'd say: hopefully the Three Choirs Festival performance in Worcester Cathedral will roll away the stone...
 ;)

 ;D Hear! hear!


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on July 02, 2021, 07:58:53 pm
He got the commission for the Solemn Prelude on the strength of the huge popular and critical success of his Ballade in A minor at the 1898 Three Choirs Festival - it will be fascinating to see how the Solemn Prelude measures up to this...

 :)
Yes, indeed. Given Novello's history in such matters it's quite an achievement for the orchestral librarian to track down the parts; as usual, while the string parts were printed, the wind parts and full score were only available in MS on hire from the publisher. If the parts are still available through Chester/Novello I'd be surprised. However, SC-T's MS full score is in the British Library and so if authentic new parts had to be created it would have been possible to do so.

I have read through SC-T's piano reduction at IMSLP; of course, he was a composer who thought orchestrally and it's documented that he didn't use the piano when composing. The piano reduction is decidedly clunky when viewed as piano music and although his wonderful skill as an orchestrator would have clothed this monochromatic version in glorious colours the detail of which we can only guess at (at least until 27 July!) the structure of the piece is, of course, clear and it reads to me as a very grand affair indeed. In one way, it's typical of its composer in terms of his use of thematic transformation and his clever modulations into a succession of remote keys. However, it's unusual in that he keeps to the same Lento tempo throughout, obviously keen to maintain the solemn mood indicated by the title.

An interesting factoid is that the Solemn Prelude was dedicated to Nicholas Kilburn, friend of Elgar (and dedicatee of The Music Makers).

Apparently, the orchestral librarian didn't track down the parts as they had long since vanished. (Thanks, Novello.) According to the BBC Music Magazine, a new score has indeed been produced from SC-T's MS (which, as I previously noted, is in the British Library). It's to be published by Faber Music (bless 'em), and further performances are already planned by the Chicago Symphony Orchestra and the London Philharmonic Orchestra, no less. https://www.fabermusic.com/news/faber-music-publishes-forgotten-coleridge-taylor-work30062021 (https://www.fabermusic.com/news/faber-music-publishes-forgotten-coleridge-taylor-work30062021)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on July 03, 2021, 06:58:50 am
Apparently, the orchestral librarian didn't track down the parts as they had long since vanished. (Thanks, Novello.) According to the BBC Music Magazine, a new score has indeed been produced from SC-T's MS (which, as I previously noted, is in the British Library). It's to be published by Faber Music (bless 'em), and further performances are already planned by the Chicago Symphony Orchestra and the London Philharmonic Orchestra, no less. https://www.fabermusic.com/news/faber-music-publishes-forgotten-coleridge-taylor-work30062021 (https://www.fabermusic.com/news/faber-music-publishes-forgotten-coleridge-taylor-work30062021)

Great news - sometimes there are still sparks of initiative!

 :D

How many other unpublished autograph/ copyist scores lurk at the BL ripe for rediscovery?

 ::)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on July 03, 2021, 09:46:48 am
Apparently, the orchestral librarian didn't track down the parts as they had long since vanished. (Thanks, Novello.) According to the BBC Music Magazine, a new score has indeed been produced from SC-T's MS (which, as I previously noted, is in the British Library). It's to be published by Faber Music (bless 'em), and further performances are already planned by the Chicago Symphony Orchestra and the London Philharmonic Orchestra, no less. https://www.fabermusic.com/news/faber-music-publishes-forgotten-coleridge-taylor-work30062021 (https://www.fabermusic.com/news/faber-music-publishes-forgotten-coleridge-taylor-work30062021)

Great news - sometimes there are still sparks of initiative!

 :D

How many other unpublished autograph/ copyist scores lurk at the BL ripe for rediscovery?

 ::)

God only knows; a lot, that's for sure. What's particularly encouraging to me about this story is that the Three Choirs Festival CEO, Dr. Alexis Paterson, actually went out hunting for this score, which exemplifies that the resurgence in interest in SC-T's music seems to be gathering some real momentum.


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on July 03, 2021, 11:29:26 am
What's particularly encouraging to me about this story is that the Three Choirs Festival CEO, Dr. Alexis Paterson, actually went out hunting for this score, which exemplifies that the resurgence in interest in SC-T's music seems to be gathering some real momentum.

As repertoire continues to open up and composers are "re-discovered", it often has a knock-on effect: Spohr-Ries-Sterndale Bennett, Potter; Parry-Stanford-Mackenzie-German-Cowen, etc. The more research and musical proselytizing the better...

 :D


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on July 03, 2021, 11:58:52 am
The more research and musical proselytizing the better...
 :D
Well said, that man!


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on July 28, 2021, 11:34:29 am
I don't know if last night's concert was recorded for a future broadcast but the Philharmonia Orchestra's Twitter feed implies SC-T's Solemn Prelude went down well, at least in rehearsal. They retweeted a post from Faber Music who wrote, "Thrilling to hear our new edition of Samuel Coleridge-Taylor's Solemn Prelude come to life ahead of tonight's performance", and they later tweeted, "Rehearsal for tonight's revival of Samuel Coleridge-Taylor's Solemn Prelude is in full flow! Wow, what a piece!! It hasn't been heard in over a century... history in the making here". For an orchestra to say "Wow, what a piece!!" is quite something, when you consider that orchestral musicians can have a reputation for being a cynical lot. :D

I shall keep eyes peeled for any reviews...


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on July 28, 2021, 11:37:14 am
I don't know if last night's concert was recorded for a future broadcast but the Philharmonia Orchestra's Twitter feed implies SC-T's Solemn Prelude went down well, at least in rehearsal. They retweeted a post from Faber Music who wrote, "Thrilling to hear our new edition of Samuel Coleridge-Taylor's Solemn Prelude come to life ahead of tonight's performance", and they later tweeted, "Rehearsal for tonight's revival of Samuel Coleridge-Taylor's Solemn Prelude is in full flow! Wow, what a piece!! It hasn't been heard in over a century... history in the making here". For an orchestra to say "Wow, what a piece!!" is quite something, when you consider that orchestral musicians can have a reputation for be a cynical lot. :D

I shall keep eyes peeled for any reviews...

I'm sure it will have been recorded (fingers-crossed) for broadcast. If so, it will certainly find a place in BIMA.

 ;)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on July 28, 2021, 11:39:18 am
I don't know if last night's concert was recorded for a future broadcast but the Philharmonia Orchestra's Twitter feed implies SC-T's Solemn Prelude went down well, at least in rehearsal. They retweeted a post from Faber Music who wrote, "Thrilling to hear our new edition of Samuel Coleridge-Taylor's Solemn Prelude come to life ahead of tonight's performance", and they later tweeted, "Rehearsal for tonight's revival of Samuel Coleridge-Taylor's Solemn Prelude is in full flow! Wow, what a piece!! It hasn't been heard in over a century... history in the making here". For an orchestra to say "Wow, what a piece!!" is quite something, when you consider that orchestral musicians can have a reputation for be a cynical lot. :D

I shall keep eyes peeled for any reviews...

I'm sure it will have been recorded (fingers-crossed) for broadcast. If so, it will certainly find a place in BIMA.

 ;)

I do hope you're right about that.


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on July 28, 2021, 06:12:47 pm
Well, the first of the reviews is in. Simon Cummings on bachtrack.com heads his review "Coleridge-Taylor shines at the Three Choirs Festival, but Elgar and Jackson disappoint". Of SC-T's Solemn Prelude he writes, "Why on earth Samuel Coleridge-Taylor’s short Solemn Prelude has had to wait 120 years to receive a second performance is anyone’s guess. Premiered in this very venue during this very festival back in 1899, one imagines the piece must have made just as stunning an impact as it did on this occasion. At times curiously bringing to mind Rachmaninov, the piece struck an interesting balance between solemnity and passion, Coleridge-Taylor’s lengthy melodic strands bedecked in lush romantic clothing. Rhythmically gentle, all soft edges and curved lines, it suited the cathedral’s acoustic perfectly, though in hindsight, coming at the start of the concert, it set the bar too high for what was to follow. Here was nothing but clarity, avoiding all traces of indulgence, communing a gorgeous, immediate, and very personal musical power."  :D

For those who wish to read why Mr Cummings was less than impressed by the rest of the concert, the full review is here: https://bachtrack.com/review-coleridge-taylor-jackson-elgar-hill-philharmonia-three-choirs-festival-worcester-july-2021 (https://bachtrack.com/review-coleridge-taylor-jackson-elgar-hill-philharmonia-three-choirs-festival-worcester-july-2021)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on July 29, 2021, 07:32:05 am
Well, the first of the reviews is in. Simon Cummings on bachtrack.com heads his review "Coleridge-Taylor shines at the Three Choirs Festival, but Elgar and Jackson disappoint". Of SC-T's Solemn Prelude he writes, "Why on earth Samuel Coleridge-Taylor’s short Solemn Prelude has had to wait 120 years to receive a second performance is anyone’s guess. Premiered in this very venue during this very festival back in 1899, one imagines the piece must have made just as stunning an impact as it did on this occasion. At times curiously bringing to mind Rachmaninov, the piece struck an interesting balance between solemnity and passion, Coleridge-Taylor’s lengthy melodic strands bedecked in lush romantic clothing. Rhythmically gentle, all soft edges and curved lines, it suited the cathedral’s acoustic perfectly, though in hindsight, coming at the start of the concert, it set the bar too high for what was to follow. Here was nothing but clarity, avoiding all traces of indulgence, communing a gorgeous, immediate, and very personal musical power."  :D

Clearly an impressive piece has been rediscovered, which only makes me wish even more for a broadcast: better keep an eye on the R3 schedule...

 8)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on July 29, 2021, 09:08:02 am
The Festival brochure itself gives a different programme for the concert...

Coleridge-Taylor: Solemn Prelude
Copland: Appalachian Spring
Armstrong Gibbs: Symphony No.2, Odysseus


...and the conductor as Adrian Partington.

see page 23 - https://issuu.com/3choirs/docs/three_choirs_festival_worcester_2021_brochure (https://issuu.com/3choirs/docs/three_choirs_festival_worcester_2021_brochure)

 ???


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on July 29, 2021, 09:42:09 am
The Festival brochure itself gives a different programme for the concert...

Coleridge-Taylor: Solemn Prelude
Copland: Appalachian Spring
Armstrong Gibbs: Symphony No.2, Odysseus


...and the conductor as Adrian Partington.

see page 23 - https://issuu.com/3choirs/docs/three_choirs_festival_worcester_2021_brochure (https://issuu.com/3choirs/docs/three_choirs_festival_worcester_2021_brochure)

 ???

I guess the changes were forced on them by Covid-related issues. It's a shame about Armstrong Gibbs's Odysseus but at least there's a good commercial recording of that if anyone wants to hear it. Maybe organising chorus rehearsals proved problematic. And if I never hear Appalachian Spring again, it will be too soon. ;)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on July 29, 2021, 09:55:45 am
The Festival brochure itself gives a different programme for the concert...

Coleridge-Taylor: Solemn Prelude
Copland: Appalachian Spring
Armstrong Gibbs: Symphony No.2, Odysseus


...and the conductor as Adrian Partington.

see page 23 - https://issuu.com/3choirs/docs/three_choirs_festival_worcester_2021_brochure (https://issuu.com/3choirs/docs/three_choirs_festival_worcester_2021_brochure)

 ???

I guess the changes were forced on them by Covid-related issues. It's a shame about Armstrong Gibbs's Odysseus but at least there's a good commercial recording of that if anyone wants to hear it. Maybe organising chorus rehearsals proved problematic. And if I never hear Appalachian Spring again, it will be too soon. ;)

Yes, probably yet another casualty of the pandemic. The Dutton recording of Gibbs' Odysseus is indeed excellent...

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61JHSBpSBRL._SY355_.jpg)

...and you get some lovely Dyson too.

 ;)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on July 29, 2021, 10:09:47 am
The Festival brochure itself gives a different programme for the concert...

Coleridge-Taylor: Solemn Prelude
Copland: Appalachian Spring
Armstrong Gibbs: Symphony No.2, Odysseus


...and the conductor as Adrian Partington.

see page 23 - https://issuu.com/3choirs/docs/three_choirs_festival_worcester_2021_brochure (https://issuu.com/3choirs/docs/three_choirs_festival_worcester_2021_brochure)

 ???

From my selfish point of view, the main thing is that SC-T's Solemn Prelude rode out the challenges (triumphantly so, it would seem)!


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on July 29, 2021, 10:30:46 am
Clearly an impressive piece has been rediscovered, which only makes me wish even more for a broadcast: better keep an eye on the R3 schedule...

 8)

Alas, an email enquiry to the Three Choirs has produced the following response:

Dear John,

I’m afraid we couldn’t interest the BBC in any of this year’s concerts.

The Philharmonia are recording their performances this week, but there are no definite plans to release any of it.

All best, Alexis


 ::)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on July 29, 2021, 10:37:38 am
Clearly an impressive piece has been rediscovered, which only makes me wish even more for a broadcast: better keep an eye on the R3 schedule...

 8)

Alas, an email enquiry to the Three Choirs has produced the following response:

Dear John,

I’m afraid we couldn’t interest the BBC in any of this year’s concerts.

The Philharmonia are recording their performances this week, but there are no definite plans to release any of it.

All best, Alexis


 ::)

Damn and blast them!  >:( :'( Thanks for emailing and for letting us know the answer. Perhaps an email to the Philharmonia encouraging them to release at least the Solomn Prelude, even as just as a download might have some effect? Whaddaya think?


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on July 29, 2021, 10:42:24 am
Damn and blast them!  >:( :'( Thanks for emailing and for letting us know the answer. Perhaps an email to the Philharmonia encouraging them to release at least the Solomn Prelude, even as just as a download might have some effect? Whaddaya think?

Already on to it!

 ;)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on July 29, 2021, 10:46:09 am
Damn and blast them!  >:( :'( Thanks for emailing and for letting us know the answer. Perhaps an email to the Philharmonia encouraging them to release at least the Solomn Prelude, even as just as a download might have some effect? Whaddaya think?

Already on to it!

 ;)

Well done, that man. Meanwhile, here's another positive review: https://seenandheard-international.com/2021/07/the-thrilling-premiere-of-the-world-imagined-at-the-three-choirs-festival/ (https://seenandheard-international.com/2021/07/the-thrilling-premiere-of-the-world-imagined-at-the-three-choirs-festival/)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on July 29, 2021, 10:59:59 am
Meanwhile, here's another positive review: https://seenandheard-international.com/2021/07/the-thrilling-premiere-of-the-world-imagined-at-the-three-choirs-festival/ (https://seenandheard-international.com/2021/07/the-thrilling-premiere-of-the-world-imagined-at-the-three-choirs-festival/)

Aren't reviews amazing - this one gives a much more positive response to both the Elgar and the Jackson!

Critics, eh?

 ;)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on July 29, 2021, 02:59:47 pm
Meanwhile, here's another positive review: https://seenandheard-international.com/2021/07/the-thrilling-premiere-of-the-world-imagined-at-the-three-choirs-festival/ (https://seenandheard-international.com/2021/07/the-thrilling-premiere-of-the-world-imagined-at-the-three-choirs-festival/)

Aren't reviews amazing - this one gives a much more positive response to both the Elgar and the Jackson!

Critics, eh?

 ;)

Dontcha just love 'em? ;D


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on July 29, 2021, 04:37:34 pm
Meanwhile, here's another positive review: https://seenandheard-international.com/2021/07/the-thrilling-premiere-of-the-world-imagined-at-the-three-choirs-festival/ (https://seenandheard-international.com/2021/07/the-thrilling-premiere-of-the-world-imagined-at-the-three-choirs-festival/)

Aren't reviews amazing - this one gives a much more positive response to both the Elgar and the Jackson!

Critics, eh?

 ;)

Dontcha just love 'em? ;D

BAH!!!

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.UcY0sP1IQGxdGxuPgRMDDQHaE8?pid=ImgDet&rs=1)

George Bernard Shaw, John Alexander Fuller Maitland, Andrew Clements, etc. pish and tush...

(https://cdn.quotesgram.com/img/64/12/1365307444-81837160.jpg)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on July 29, 2021, 04:51:55 pm
(https://cdn.quotesgram.com/img/64/12/1365307444-81837160.jpg)

Now that's me, sure enough!


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on July 29, 2021, 04:53:47 pm
(https://cdn.quotesgram.com/img/64/12/1365307444-81837160.jpg)

Now that's me, sure enough!

Just make sure you keep on saying it...

 :D :D :D

Hoorah!

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.03113f7aa59f77098ab38d1e463c8a3b?rik=CHTfejJxcGCSuA&pid=ImgRaw)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on July 29, 2021, 04:57:52 pm

Just make sure you keep on saying it...

 :D :D :D

 :) Righty-ho then. You'll have noticed I can fill one of these wthout too much effort...

(https://images.unsplash.com/photo-1497531551184-06b252e1bee1?ixid=MnwxMjA3fDB8MHxzZWFyY2h8MXx8aG90JTIwYWlyJTIwYmFsbG9vbnxlbnwwfHwwfHw%3D&ixlib=rb-1.2.1&auto=format&fit=crop&w=500&q=60)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on July 29, 2021, 05:08:59 pm

Just make sure you keep on saying it...

 :D :D :D

 :) Righty-ho then. You'll have noticed I can fill one of these wthout too much effort...

(https://images.unsplash.com/photo-1497531551184-06b252e1bee1?ixid=MnwxMjA3fDB8MHxzZWFyY2h8MXx8aG90JTIwYWlyJTIwYmFsbG9vbnxlbnwwfHwwfHw%3D&ixlib=rb-1.2.1&auto=format&fit=crop&w=500&q=60)

No problemo...

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.f60635954bcbccde8786b87763e10f8b?rik=SCepjfxyzJ5bUw&pid=ImgRaw)

 ;)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on July 29, 2021, 05:16:31 pm
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.03113f7aa59f77098ab38d1e463c8a3b?rik=CHTfejJxcGCSuA&pid=ImgRaw)

Where are the rescuing hands of cilgwyn when you need them?


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on July 29, 2021, 08:48:47 pm
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.03113f7aa59f77098ab38d1e463c8a3b?rik=CHTfejJxcGCSuA&pid=ImgRaw)

Where are the rescuing hands of cilgwyn when you need them?

Blimey, oh Riley! "Rescuing"?

(https://www.alvarofeito.com/talks/carreras-no-lineales/Carreras%20no-lineales%20%20Slides_files/Despair.jpg)


 :D :D :D



Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on July 29, 2021, 09:42:13 pm
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.03113f7aa59f77098ab38d1e463c8a3b?rik=CHTfejJxcGCSuA&pid=ImgRaw)

Where are the rescuing hands of cilgwyn when you need them?

Blimey, oh Riley! "Rescuing"?

(https://www.alvarofeito.com/talks/carreras-no-lineales/Carreras%20no-lineales%20%20Slides_files/Despair.jpg)


 :D :D :D



 ::)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on July 30, 2021, 02:39:56 pm
A review of Tuesday's concert has appeared in the on-line version of today's Guardian. Although the report concentrates on Gabriel Jackson's The World Imagined, the headline itself reads, "A new commission from Gabriel Jackson came across vividly in the cathedral acoustic, in august company alongside a rare revived piece by Samuel Coleridge-Taylor." It's rewarding to know that the (anonymous) reviewer regards SC-T' s company as 'august'! And the review does conclude: "This festival commission puts Jackson in august company. At Worcester, in 1899, the young Samuel Coleridge-Taylor conducted the premiere of his Solemn Prelude while Edward Elgar conducted his Enigma Variations in that same concert. Pairing the two pieces again – only the Coleridge-Taylor’s second outing – conductor David Hill ensured a vibrant sense of occasion and history revisited".

The full version may be read here: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jul/30/three-choirs-festival-review-worcester-cathedral-gabriel-jackson-samuel-coleridge-taylor (https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jul/30/three-choirs-festival-review-worcester-cathedral-gabriel-jackson-samuel-coleridge-taylor)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on July 30, 2021, 02:53:26 pm
A review of Tuesday's concert has appeared in the on-line version of today's Guardian. Although the report concentrates on Gabriel Jackson's The World Imagined, the headline itself reads, "A new commission from Gabriel Jackson came across vividly in the cathedral acoustic, in august company alongside a rare revived piece by Samuel Coleridge-Taylor." It's rewarding to know that the (anonymous) reviewer regards SC-T' s company as 'august'! And the review does conclude: "This festival commission puts Jackson in august company. At Worcester, in 1899, the young Samuel Coleridge-Taylor conducted the premiere of his Solemn Prelude while Edward Elgar conducted his Enigma Variations in that same concert. Pairing the two pieces again – only the Coleridge-Taylor’s second outing – conductor David Hill ensured a vibrant sense of occasion and history revisited".

All the more reason why Coleridge-Taylor's Solemn Prelude should be made available either from this performance or from a subsequent recording...

 :)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on July 30, 2021, 03:03:19 pm
A review of Tuesday's concert has appeared in the on-line version of today's Guardian. Although the report concentrates on Gabriel Jackson's The World Imagined, the headline itself reads, "A new commission from Gabriel Jackson came across vividly in the cathedral acoustic, in august company alongside a rare revived piece by Samuel Coleridge-Taylor." It's rewarding to know that the (anonymous) reviewer regards SC-T' s company as 'august'! And the review does conclude: "This festival commission puts Jackson in august company. At Worcester, in 1899, the young Samuel Coleridge-Taylor conducted the premiere of his Solemn Prelude while Edward Elgar conducted his Enigma Variations in that same concert. Pairing the two pieces again – only the Coleridge-Taylor’s second outing – conductor David Hill ensured a vibrant sense of occasion and history revisited".

All the more reason why Coleridge-Taylor's Solemn Prelude should be made available either from this performance or from a subsequent recording...

 :)

(https://www.norfolkchamber.co.uk/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/fields/images/news-member/thumbsup.png?itok=orKslG7Q)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on July 30, 2021, 03:08:37 pm
...damn the BBC for not "showing an interest" in the Three Choirs Festival.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gyShUiBq-7s/W0dYedKeagI/AAAAAAAAR5I/J5KvI1VCno4yBObSVjJv6pl_kKV5dSsIACEwYBhgL/s1600/Bad%2BDecision.jpg)

Worra bunch of useless toss-pots.

 ::)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on July 30, 2021, 03:21:26 pm
...damn the BBC for not "showing an interest" in the Three Choirs Festival.

Worra bunch of useless toss-pots.

 ::)
You never spoke a truer word. I despair of the BBC (as I do of so much else... :( )


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on July 30, 2021, 03:29:47 pm
...damn the BBC for not "showing an interest" in the Three Choirs Festival.

Worra bunch of useless toss-pots.

 ::)
You never spoke a truer word. I despair of the BBC (as I do of so much else... :( )

Important music festivals, etc., should be recorded for broadcast de rigueur. No doubt the BBC is basking in the prospect of a post-lockdown Proms season...

(https://img2.thejournal.ie/inline/1163010/original/?width=399&version=1163010)

...and simply can't be ars*d with such provincial doings. The Metrolopis is everything!

BAH!!!

 >:(


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on July 30, 2021, 03:36:24 pm

No doubt the BBC is basking in the prospect of a post-lockdown Proms season...
...and simply can't be ars*d with such provincial doings. The Metrolopis is everything!
 >:(

I'm sure that's correct. What a bunch of 'Fanny's doughnuts' they are.


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on July 30, 2021, 03:47:46 pm

No doubt the BBC is basking in the prospect of a post-lockdown Proms season...
...and simply can't be ars*d with such provincial doings. The Metrolopis is everything!
 >:(

I'm sure that's correct. What a bunch of 'Fanny's doughnuts' they are.

The Culture Committee of the BBC circa 2021...

(https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/funny-doughnuts-picture-id1159651766?k=6&m=1159651766&s=170667a&w=0&h=AJ2ZmZn7GFQpl-8fC_h5dfjA7SGE7G13ejSaLeRFfnQ=)

...nope, no discernible brain-activity taking place. Still, yummy!

 :D :D :D


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on July 30, 2021, 04:05:31 pm

No doubt the BBC is basking in the prospect of a post-lockdown Proms season...
...and simply can't be ars*d with such provincial doings. The Metrolopis is everything!
 >:(

I'm sure that's correct. What a bunch of 'Fanny's doughnuts' they are.

The Culture Committee of the BBC circa 2021...

(https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/funny-doughnuts-picture-id1159651766?k=6&m=1159651766&s=170667a&w=0&h=AJ2ZmZn7GFQpl-8fC_h5dfjA7SGE7G13ejSaLeRFfnQ=)

...nope, no discernible brain-activity taking place. Still, yummy!

 :D :D :D

 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on August 09, 2021, 07:39:04 pm
I've just discovered that a snippet of SC-T's Solemn Prelude was played on BBC Radio 3's "In Tune" on 23 July. There's not enough of a sample to make any type of qualitative judgments but just a few bars of harmony and orchestration leave one in no doubt about who composed this! It can be found here https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000y1cd (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000y1cd) 1 hour 27 minutes in but be quick because it will vanish soon.


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on August 10, 2021, 11:31:03 am
I've just discovered that a snippet of SC-T's Solemn Prelude was played on BBC Radio 3's "In Tune" on 23 July. There's not enough of a sample to make any type of qualitative judgments but just a few bars of harmony and orchestration leave one in no doubt about who composed this! It can be found here https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000y1cd (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000y1cd) 1 hour 27 minutes in but be quick because it will vanish soon.

It must be from the Philharmonia's own recording as the BBC couldn't be bothered to turn up for this landmark performance. I'm surprised they had the audacity to broadcast even a snippet...

 ::)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on August 10, 2021, 11:40:58 am
I've just discovered that a snippet of SC-T's Solemn Prelude was played on BBC Radio 3's "In Tune" on 23 July. There's not enough of a sample to make any type of qualitative judgments but just a few bars of harmony and orchestration leave one in no doubt about who composed this! It can be found here https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000y1cd (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000y1cd) 1 hour 27 minutes in but be quick because it will vanish soon.

It must be from the Philharmonia's own recording as the BBC couldn't be bothered to turn up for this landmark performance. I'm surprised they had the audacity to broadcast even a snippet...

 ::)
Yes, it was. Is there still no response to your enquiry about whether the Philharmonia might release it as a download?


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on August 10, 2021, 11:52:52 am
I've just discovered that a snippet of SC-T's Solemn Prelude was played on BBC Radio 3's "In Tune" on 23 July. There's not enough of a sample to make any type of qualitative judgments but just a few bars of harmony and orchestration leave one in no doubt about who composed this! It can be found here https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000y1cd (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000y1cd) 1 hour 27 minutes in but be quick because it will vanish soon.

It must be from the Philharmonia's own recording as the BBC couldn't be bothered to turn up for this landmark performance. I'm surprised they had the audacity to broadcast even a snippet...

 ::)
Yes, it was. Is there still no response to your enquiry about whether the Philharmonia might release it as a download?

Nope, no response to my bleedin' pleadin' email thus far.

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.5Di9hBXgkYHiDmHFYpU5MAHaE8?pid=ImgDet&rs=1)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on August 10, 2021, 11:59:21 am
I've just discovered that a snippet of SC-T's Solemn Prelude was played on BBC Radio 3's "In Tune" on 23 July. There's not enough of a sample to make any type of qualitative judgments but just a few bars of harmony and orchestration leave one in no doubt about who composed this! It can be found here https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000y1cd (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000y1cd) 1 hour 27 minutes in but be quick because it will vanish soon.

It must be from the Philharmonia's own recording as the BBC couldn't be bothered to turn up for this landmark performance. I'm surprised they had the audacity to broadcast even a snippet...

 ::)
Yes, it was. Is there still no response to your enquiry about whether the Philharmonia might release it as a download?

Nope, no response to my bleedin' pleadin' email thus far.

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.5Di9hBXgkYHiDmHFYpU5MAHaE8?pid=ImgDet&rs=1)

 ??? Oh well...  :'(


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on August 10, 2021, 12:16:22 pm
??? Oh well...  :'(

You never know, hopefully more people will pester them to release their recording in whatever format.

 :)


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on August 10, 2021, 12:45:24 pm
I've just discovered that a snippet of SC-T's Solemn Prelude was played on BBC Radio 3's "In Tune" on 23 July. There's not enough of a sample to make any type of qualitative judgments but just a few bars of harmony and orchestration leave one in no doubt about who composed this! It can be found here https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000y1cd (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000y1cd) 1 hour 27 minutes in but be quick because it will vanish soon.

Just in case we never hear it again, I've uploaded an mp3 of this tantalising excerpt (recorded in rehearsal) to BIMA.

 :)

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/320x320/p08jk2g8.jpg)

Ugh! Far worse than cats, think this one's from Cheshire...

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.l8TNXZ-KeyRn8z7o9VXQjgAAAA?pid=ImgDet&rs=1)

 :P



Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on August 10, 2021, 02:05:06 pm
I've just discovered that a snippet of SC-T's Solemn Prelude was played on BBC Radio 3's "In Tune" on 23 July. There's not enough of a sample to make any type of qualitative judgments but just a few bars of harmony and orchestration leave one in no doubt about who composed this! It can be found here https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000y1cd (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000y1cd) 1 hour 27 minutes in but be quick because it will vanish soon.

Just in case we never hear it again, I've uploaded an mp3 of this tantalising excerpt (recorded in rehearsal) to BIMA.

 :)

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/320x320/p08jk2g8.jpg)

Ugh! Far worse than cats, think this one's from Cheshire...

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.l8TNXZ-KeyRn8z7o9VXQjgAAAA?pid=ImgDet&rs=1)

 :P



Thank you. I do hope we hear the whole thing again soon.


Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Albion on August 10, 2021, 02:31:02 pm
I've just discovered that a snippet of SC-T's Solemn Prelude was played on BBC Radio 3's "In Tune" on 23 July. There's not enough of a sample to make any type of qualitative judgments but just a few bars of harmony and orchestration leave one in no doubt about who composed this! It can be found here https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000y1cd (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000y1cd) 1 hour 27 minutes in but be quick because it will vanish soon.

Just in case we never hear it again, I've uploaded an mp3 of this tantalising excerpt (recorded in rehearsal) to BIMA.

 :)

Thank you. I do hope we hear the whole thing again soon.

Indeed! What a shame the orchestral parts were lost for such a long time, otherwise it might have been recorded before now, possibly in the 1990s when Argo were active in resurrecting C-T: Ballade in A minor, Symphonic Variations (whatever happened to Grant Llewellyn? You never hear of him recording now though he's only 60)

 ???

and a complete Hiawatha (Kenneth Alwyn is excused such enquiry as he died in 2020 aged 95).

https://www.britishmusicsociety.co.uk/2020/12/obituary-conductor-kenneth-alwyn/ (https://www.britishmusicsociety.co.uk/2020/12/obituary-conductor-kenneth-alwyn/)

 :(

Another opportunity for a well-deserved knighthood missed - why are we so crap at publicly recognising our native conductors (Thomson, Handley, Hickox, etc.) during their lifetime, when they devote so much labour to preserving our heritage? Wood, Beecham, Boult, Barbirolli, Groves, Davis and Rattle were duly honoured, but few others have been given "the gong". Arise, Sir Martyn Brabbins, Sir John Andrews, Sir David Lloyd-Jones, Sir John Wilson and Sir Martin Yates...

 ;D

Sir Bill Gates, Sir Ronald Reagan, Sir George H.W. Bush, Sir Bono, all honorary but who makes these (no doubt well-financed) decisions. Hmmmmm.......

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.c313bc10de5a6d552b1944b642ca36d7?rik=991X1mLWSM7A4A&pid=ImgRaw&r=0)

 :-\



Title: Re: Three Choirs Festival 2021
Post by: Lionel Harrison on August 10, 2021, 04:40:22 pm
I've just discovered that a snippet of SC-T's Solemn Prelude was played on BBC Radio 3's "In Tune" on 23 July. There's not enough of a sample to make any type of qualitative judgments but just a few bars of harmony and orchestration leave one in no doubt about who composed this! It can be found here https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000y1cd (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000y1cd) 1 hour 27 minutes in but be quick because it will vanish soon.

Just in case we never hear it again, I've uploaded an mp3 of this tantalising excerpt (recorded in rehearsal) to BIMA.

 :)

Thank you. I do hope we hear the whole thing again soon.

Indeed! What a shame the orchestral parts were lost for such a long time, otherwise it might have been recorded before now, possibly in the 1990s when Argo were active in resurrecting C-T: Ballade in A minor, Symphonic Variations (whatever happened to Grant Llewellyn? You never hear of him recording now though he's only 60)

 ???

and a complete Hiawatha (Kenneth Alwyn is excused such enquiry as he died in 2020 aged 95).

https://www.britishmusicsociety.co.uk/2020/12/obituary-conductor-kenneth-alwyn/ (https://www.britishmusicsociety.co.uk/2020/12/obituary-conductor-kenneth-alwyn/)

 :(

Another opportunity for a well-deserved knighthood missed - why are we so crap at publicly recognising our native conductors (Thomson, Handley, Hickox, etc.) during their lifetime, when they devote so much labour to preserving our heritage? Wood, Beecham, Boult, Barbirolli, Groves, Davis and Rattle were duly honoured, but few others have been given "the gong". Arise, Sir Martyn Brabbins, Sir John Andrews, Sir David Lloyd-Jones, Sir John Wilson and Sir Martin Yates...

 ;D

Sir Bill Gates, Sir Ronald Reagan, Sir George H.W. Bush, Sir Bono, all honorary but who makes these (no doubt well-financed) decisions. Hmmmmm.......

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.c313bc10de5a6d552b1944b642ca36d7?rik=991X1mLWSM7A4A&pid=ImgRaw&r=0)

 :-\



They, whoever they are, seem more willing to bestow honorary knighthoods on foreign conductors, such as André Previn and Bernard Haitink, than on our own. It's not that I begrudge those gentlement the titles; I don't. Indeed, I feel they entirely deserved them, but British conductors should get their proper reward too, as they did in earlier times.