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Title: Orchestration with organ
Post by: Gauk on March 18, 2017, 11:16:29 am
A thought struck me. It's not so rare in symphonic works, that if a composer wants to beef up a climax he sticks an organ into the texture. The organist doesn't get to play any solos, he's just there to give a bit more oomph to the tuttis. Can anyone think of any examples where this happens in a concerto (obviously not an organ concerto)?


Title: Re: Orchestration with organ
Post by: guest377 on March 18, 2017, 06:21:14 pm
how about Music of the Spheres by Langgaard for starters.....  Langgaard was an interesting fellow.. follower of Theosophical Society  and hollow earthers.... interesting for 1920s


The Music of the Spheres is a symphonic work of great complexity, calling for a large orchestra, organ and choir, a supporting (distant) orchestra including a soprano voice, and a further piano on which the strings are played directly rather than via the keys. It was composed during World War I, but only performed twice (in Germany in 19211922) during Langgaard's lifetime and lay dormant for almost 50 years before being rediscovered. When it was rediscovered in the late 1960s, it was considered remarkably modern and reflective of the pathfinding style in which Langgaard composed.
In 2010 Music of the Spheres received its British premiere at The Proms, conducted by Thomas Dausgaard. (on dacapo)


Title: Re: Orchestration with organ
Post by: Gauk on March 18, 2017, 11:37:27 pm
I know it well, but it ain't a concerto by any stretch of the imagination. I'm thinking of a piano or violin concerto. I really can't see anyone sticking in an organ for say, a clarinet concerto.


Title: Re: Orchestration with organ
Post by: guest377 on March 20, 2017, 07:33:48 pm
how about Langgaard's sym no 13??  there is an organ that beef's up the sound in the 6th movement??   also a piano... interesting composer... sometimes sounds like something Beethoven would compose...for 1920s...  he was indeed a very late romantic !!


Title: Re: Orchestration with organ
Post by: Gauk on March 21, 2017, 08:06:04 pm
Also not a concerto. I can think of numerous works that are not concertos, including, I think, the Enigma Variations. I imagine it would have to be a piano concerto, since these often pit the soloist against a large orchestra. Violin concerto would be a faint possibility, buy any other soloist would usually be matched with a lighter orchestra.


Title: Re: Orchestration with organ
Post by: oldfezzi on March 22, 2017, 12:37:59 am
Yes, and once you hear he Enigma Variations with a substantial organ, the performance sounds shallow without it.....