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« on: May 05, 2021, 10:45:47 pm »

Just listening to a programme on Radio 3 about Napoleon on the bi-centenary of his death. Does the "Napoleonic Period" have much of a musical legacy?



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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2021, 08:41:49 am »

In opera, perhaps?

I recall reading that the theatrical works of Mehul, Cherubini etc. during the Napoleonic period were an influence on Weber - and thence on Romantic opera in general.

And, staying in France, Spontini's works during Napoleon's reign surely set the stage (sorry!) for the French grand operas to come.
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2021, 09:36:09 am »

It's not an area of the repertoire I know anything about.

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The only early nineteenth century French music I have is the wonderful two-disc set of choral music by Cherubini conducted by Riccardo Muti on EMI which contains the Requiem in memory of Louis XVI (1816), the Mass for the Coronation of Louis XVIII (1819) and the Mass for the Coronation of Charles X (1825) -



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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2021, 10:35:59 am »

Wait, didn't Tchaikovsky write something?   Huh Grin
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2021, 10:41:42 am »

Wait, didn't Tchaikovsky write something?   Huh Grin

Oh, yes, that dainty, understated morceau...



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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2021, 10:42:55 am »

The only early nineteenth century French music I have is the wonderful two-disc set of choral music by Cherubini conducted by Riccardo Muti on EMI which contains the Requiem in memory of Louis XVI (1816), the Mass for the Coronation of Louis XVIII (1819) and the Mass for the Coronation of Charles X (1825).

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Oh yes, I have those recordings too - wonderful stuff!

Wait, didn't Tchaikovsky write something?   Huh Grin

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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2021, 10:44:15 am »


Oh, yes, that dainty, understated morceau...

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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2021, 10:45:40 am »

Wait, didn't Tchaikovsky write something?   Huh Grin
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Beethoven did too but his contributions were written when Napoleon was still busy a-conquering. If the Eroica Symphony is regrded as some kind of watershed piece in musical history, I guess we have old Boney to thank for changing the course of it.
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2021, 10:50:25 am »

If the Eroica Symphony is regarded as some kind of watershed piece in musical history, I guess we have old Boney to thank for changing the course of it.
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That's a good point! Whenever I hear mention of Bony-Party it makes me think of Vaughan Williams' Hugh the Drover - funny that...

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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2021, 11:05:05 am »

If the Eroica Symphony is regarded as some kind of watershed piece in musical history, I guess we have old Boney to thank for changing the course of it.
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That's a good point! Whenever I hear mention of Bony-Party it makes me think of Vaughan Williams' Hugh the Drover - funny that...

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It makes me think of Julian and Sandy!
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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2021, 11:11:22 am »

It makes me think of Julian and Sandy! Wink

If we ever meet it would indeed be bona to vada your dolly old eek...

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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2021, 11:13:37 am »

It makes me think of Julian and Sandy! Wink

If we ever meet it would indeed be bona to vada your dolly old eek...

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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2021, 11:16:55 am »

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Thank you. My eek is more old than dolly!

Uh-oh, more thread-derailment ahead, methinks...



...hang on to your corsets.

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Uh-oh, more thread-derailment ahead, methinks...

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I seem to be good at that!
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Uh-oh, more thread-derailment ahead, methinks...

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