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Hyperion Romantic Piano Concertos series - next issue Rubbra and Bliss


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« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2020, 09:24:19 pm »

I agree - the Garuta concerto is a marvellous piece. Lydia Auster's G major concerto dates from 1952 and is heavily influenced by folk music - very beautifully scored and constructed; in spite of the date it is perfectly tonal and certainly Romantic. I don't know Volfgang Darzins' PC (I believe he wrote 2).
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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2020, 05:42:16 pm »

Do considerations of what might possibly sell enter into Hyperion's decisions?

Some of the names mentioned seem rather a stretch in that regard.

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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2020, 06:15:10 pm »

The momentum generated by, and the popularity of, the RPC series means that virtually anything recorded in the series will sell. There are already many deeply obscure composers whose works are recorded under the RPC banner.
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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2020, 08:01:44 pm »

Who are some of the more obscure composers in the series (up to now) would you say?

BTW, what criteria qualify the Rubbra & Bliss Concertos as "romantic"?  Are they a violation of the remit (as Alan Howe might protest)?
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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2020, 08:35:30 pm »

Who are some of the more obscure composers in the series (up to now) would you say?

BTW, what criteria qualify the Rubbra & Bliss Concertos as "romantic"?  Are they a violation of the remit (as Alan How might protest)?

who is Alan How?
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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2020, 08:36:26 pm »

oh  Peteris Barisons piano concerto also
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« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2020, 08:59:12 pm »

But the series is not BRITISH Romantic PCs is it?

I don't think I inferred that it was...

Gaze Cooper, Stanley Wilson, William Baines, Lawrance Collingwood, Kathleen Bruckshaw, Ethel Scarborough, Tobias Matthay, Felix Borowski, Caryl Florio, Percy Sherwood (no. 1), Arthur Hinton, Brian Easdale, Frank Merrick, Frank Tapp... all British and all with extant scores for piano and orchestra.

Thanks, Gareth. Could we potentially add Stanley Bate's 3rd, 4th and 5th dating from the 1950s? I would really like to hear these in good modern recordings - number 2 as recorded by Dutton is splendid. I wonder just how far the "romantic" remit can be stretched...

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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2020, 12:52:01 am »

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Goedicke, Dohler, Kullak, Melcer, Taubert, Rosenhain, Zarzycki, Zelenski, Alnaes, Napravnik, Oswald, Napoleao, Coke, Scholz, Urspruch - scarcely household names!
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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2020, 05:47:01 am »

A motley group, - you're right, in which Garuda, Auster, & Darzins, et. al. would not be out of place.
What the series lacks is any Scandinavian (or Finnish) representation whatsoever, - or am I wrong?
Where's Stenhammar, Atterberg, and a host of others one could mention.  Have the Nordic countries been deliberately excluded?
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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2020, 06:05:41 am »

BTW, what criteria qualify the Rubbra & Bliss Concertos as "romantic"?  Are they a violation of the remit (as Alan Howe might protest)?

who is Alan Howe??
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« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2020, 07:40:33 am »

The owner/moderator of a certain forum you're a member of and occasional poster on.
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« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2020, 12:46:02 pm »

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You are wrong - at least, Scandinavian yes; Finnish, no, not yet. Vol. 42 Alnaes & Sinding; Vol. 49 Stenhammar; Vol. 57 Wiklund. There are several PCs by Finnish composers that might be included (I have suggested Vaitio Rainio and Ilmari Hannikainen); and another lacuna is the Baltic States.
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« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2020, 01:01:33 pm »

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I'm not really sure they could be called truly "Romantic", but these terms are so subjective. In any case, Stanley Bate is a criminally neglected composer. I was impressed with the PC2 which Dutton recorded and would love to hear his others. I do hope someone will record them soon - and the other concertos, and the Symphony No. 2, and... and...

And then there is Stanley Wilson: 3 PCs - Mss all at RCM (to say nothing of the "Skye" Symphony, which one a Carnegie Trust award). But perhaps Wilson is for another thread.
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« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2020, 02:15:08 pm »

I've just been re-reading Lewis Foreman's notes to the Dutton discs of Stanley Bate and he states that the fifth piano concerto is unfinished. In the BBC Radio 4 documentary feature "The Lonely Death of Stanley Bate" Stephen Bell, conductor of the viola concerto for Dutton examined the autograph score of the second symphony at the RCM and expressed interest in recording it... Let's hope!

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« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2020, 09:46:49 pm »

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What the series lacks is any Scandinavian (or Finnish) representation whatsoever, - or am I wrong?

You are wrong - at least, Scandinavian yes; Finnish, no, not yet. Vol. 42 Alnaes & Sinding; Vol. 49 Stenhammar; Vol. 57 Wiklund. There are several PCs by Finnish composers that might be included (I have suggested Vaitio Rainio and Ilmari Hannikainen); and another lacuna is the Baltic States.

Got excited I might have a scoop, - but no.  The series has become so large it's easy to forget things.
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