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« on: November 25, 2018, 08:02:03 am »

Does anyone have these pieces?

Alfred Hill  - Symphony no. 11 (apparently for strings)
Jef Van Hoof - Symphony no. 3.
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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2018, 09:24:20 am »

I have van Hoof #3.  "In Flanders Field" #51

https://www.amazon.com/Flanders-Fields-Vol-51-Hoof/dp/B074FCJ3MC/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1543137602&sr=8-1&keywords=51+flanders+field
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2018, 12:13:17 am »

It seems part of a series "In the Flanders Fields" of dozens.I saw n30
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2018, 12:26:26 pm »

See https://www.phaedracd.com/nl/
There're 4 volumes of Van Hoof's symphonies and other orchestral works on the 'In Flanders' Fields' Phaedra label: volumes 13, 44, 51 and 67.
All, in my opnion, interesting late romantic scores.
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2018, 06:37:21 am »

Thanks to the responders for the request for Van Hoof's third symphony.
But nothing on the Alfred Hill 11th. Is there a story here?
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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2018, 09:14:28 am »

Thanks to the responders for the request for Van Hoof's third symphony.
But nothing on the Alfred Hill 11th. Is there a story here?

Hill's Symphonies Nos.1 and 11 "The Four Nations" appear to be the only ones of his thirteen never recorded in any format.
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2018, 04:48:32 pm »

There's a radio broadcast recording of Hill's Symphony No.1 in the "Australian Music" section of the Download Archive on the Unsung Composers Website (provided by Maris).  You probably have it but don't know Shocked.
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2018, 10:57:20 pm »

I did actually mean "commercially recorded" but your point is well made Grin I am currently in London so I can't check my own catalogue of downloads.
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2018, 11:39:02 pm »

See https://www.phaedracd.com/nl/
There're 4 volumes of Van Hoof's symphonies and other orchestral works on the 'In Flanders' Fields' Phaedra label: volumes 13, 44, 51 and 67.
All, in my opnion, interesting late romantic scores.
Thanks!
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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2018, 01:34:31 am »

This is a reference to Alfred Hill's 11th symphony besides being in the list of his Symphonies from Wikipedia.
The four nations [music] : symphony in E flat for string orchestra
Symphony No 11.
Apparently one of his string quartets that he upgraded to a symphony.
"Originally composed 24th June 1920 for the Verbrugghen Quartet".

https://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/5809526
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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2018, 02:13:07 am »

I think most (if not all) of his Symphonies are adaptations of String Quartets.
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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2018, 08:43:44 pm »

I think most (if not all) of his Symphonies are adaptations of String Quartets.
         
True, it might be interesting to listen to compare the quartets with the symphonies.
It might be a good discussion topic for other composers who have done the same thing with their pieces
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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2018, 10:43:51 pm »

If I recall correctly the only symphony which is not an adaptation of a string quartet is the first which I (probably) have downloaded on my hard drive  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2018, 05:51:49 pm »

If I recall correctly the only symphony which is not an adaptation of a string quartet is the first which I (probably) have downloaded on my hard drive  Grin

.....which I now find I do definitely have on my hard drive Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2019, 02:07:53 pm »

Hill is a composer I can do without. If his symphonies are reworks of string quartets that would make a lot of sense as to why they sit so poorly on the orchestra.
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