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(Some) Twentieth Century British Symphonies not yet on cd: an update


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« on: June 11, 2018, 01:50:12 pm »

(Please note that this is of course a personal selection. I have excluded those symphonies known to have been withdrawn by their composer, eg Alun Hoddinott's Symphony No.1.
An * indicates that an off-air recording is available for download from this site or You Tube.))

ALAN BUSH (1900-96): Symphony No.3 “Byron”-baritone, chorus + orch. (1959-60)*

ARNOLD COOKE (1906-2005): Symphony No.2 (1963)     
                                                      Symphony No.6 (1983-84)*

WILLIAM WORDSWORTH (1908-88): Symphony No.6 “Elegiaca”-soprano, mezzo-
                                                                           soprano, baritone, chorus + orch. (1977)
                                                                   Symphony No.7 “Cosmos” (1980)*
                                                                           (may be recorded by Toccata Classics)

ROBIN ORR (1909-2006): Symphony No.2 (1970-71)*
                                              Symphony No.3 (1978)*

ROBERT STILL (1910-71): Symphony No.1 (1954)
                                               Symphony No.2 (1956)

STANLEY BATE (1911-59): Symphony No.2 (1937-39)

DANIEL JONES (1912-93); Symphony No.3 (1951)*
                                                Symphony No.5 (1958)*
                                                Symphony No.12 (1985)*
                                                Symphony “In Memoriam John Fussell” (1992)*
                                                 (all are promised from Lyrita)

RUTH GIPPS (1921-199): Symphony No.1 (1942)
                                  Symphony No.3 (1965) *
                                  Symphony No.4 (1972) *
                                  Symphony No.5 (1982) *

IAIN HAMILTON (1922-2000): Symphony No.1 “Cyrano de Bergerac” (1949)*
                                                       Symphony No.2 (1950-51)*
                                                       Symphony No.3 “Spring” (1979-80)*
                                                       Symphony No.4 (1981)*

JOHN VEALE (1922-2006): Symphony No.1 (1946-47/51)*
                                                 Symphony No.3 (2003)*

ARTHUR BUTTERWORTH (1923-2014):   Symphony No.3 “Sinfonia Borealis” (1979)*
                                                                       Symphony No.6 (2006)*
                                                                       Symphony No.7 (2010)

ANTHONY MILNER (1925-2002): Symphony No.2-soprano, tenor, chorus + orch.
                                                                              (1977-78)*
                                                           Symphony No.3 (1986)


THOMAS WILSON (1927-2001): Symphony No.2 (1965)*
                                                          Symphony No.5 (1998)*
                                                              (recording planned by Linn)

ALUN HODDINOTT (1929-2008):   Symphony No.4 (1970)*
                                                             Symphony No.7-organ + orch. (1989)*
                                                             Symphony No.8- brass + percussion (1989)*
                                                             Symphony No.9 “A Vision of Eternity”-soprano +
                                                                                        orch. (1992)*
                                                             Symphony No.10 (1999)*

SIR PETER MAXWELL DAVIES (1934-2016): Symphony No.7 (2000)*
                                                                                Symphony No.9 (2011-12)*

SIR RICHARD RODNEY BENNETT (1936-2012): Symphony No.1 (1965)*
                                                                                           (will probably be recorded by
                                                                                                    Chandos)

JOHN McCABE (1939-2015): Symphony No.3 “Hommages” (1978)*
                                                    Symphony No.5 “Edward II” (1998)*
                                                    Symphony No.6 “Symphony on a Pavane” (2006)
                                                    Symphony No.7 “Labyrinth” (2007)*

DAVID MATTHEWS (1943-): Symphony No.9 (2016)

JOHN PICKARD (1963-): Symphony No.2 (1985-87)*
                                            Symphony No.3 (1995-96)*



CD recordings for imminent release:

William Wordsworth: Symphony No.4 (1953) and Symphony No.8 “Pax Hominibus”
           (1986) from Toccata Classics

Thomas Wilson: Symphony No.3 (1979) and Symphony No.4 “Passeleth Tapestry”
          (1988) from Linn Records

Sir Richard Rodney Bennett: Symphony No.2 (1968) from Chandos

David Matthews: Symphony No.8 (2014) from Chandos
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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2018, 02:06:48 pm »

An interesting update Colin.
I would especially like to hear the Robin Orr symphonies as I like his 'Symphony in One Movement' very much.
I wish that Ruth Gipps's 4th had been released on CD.
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2018, 03:02:53 pm »

An interesting update Colin.
I would especially like to hear the Robin Orr symphonies as I like his 'Symphony in One Movement' very much.
I wish that Ruth Gipps's 4th had been released on CD.

Oh dandelion and double dandelion....I have yet again left poor old Ruth Gipps off my list Huh Will be remied forthwith Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2018, 09:30:35 pm »

Most unfortunately, all the performance material of York Bowen's 3rd symphony was destroyed in a flood at the publishers. So a new score, were one ever to be produced, would have to be reconstructed from the recordings - I believe there are two. Quite a task!
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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2018, 09:53:35 pm »

Is this not exactly the exercise which Martin Yates delights in doing?

....but I accept that it almost certainly should not have been included in the original list.
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2018, 04:28:08 pm »

I wish Martin could be persuaded, but it really is a major undertaking, and rather different from orchestrating a piano score. Not that he wouldn't be eminently capable, but it would involve a lot of time.
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2018, 04:36:19 pm »

Yes, I fully understand and accept that. I have removed the symphony from my list above.

I am a little surprised that you have not castigated me for including the unrecorded Holbrooke symphonies, Gareth, but I am never quite sure which still are extant and-equally important and more difficult-how to number them
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2018, 04:49:45 pm »

Yes, I fully understand and accept that. I have removed the symphony from my list above.

I am a little surprised that you have not castigated me for including the unrecorded Holbrooke symphonies, Gareth, but I am never quite sure which still are extant and-equally important and more difficult-how to number them
Indeed! And here I am,impatiently waiting,for the next release in the Cpo series,which,apparently,includes his Symphony No 3 "Ships"! Grin Can't wait to cross that one off my "list"! Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2018, 12:35:05 pm »

Well, I don't want to castigate anyone, but the unrecorded extant symphonies of Holbrooke are:
Dramatic Choral Symphony, Homage (sic) to E.A. Poe (unnumbered, but effectively No. 1)
Symphony No. 1 "Les Hommages" (a version for very large orchestra of the earlier Bohemian Suite for strings - the difference lies only in the instrumentation)
Symphony No. 2 "Apollo and the Seaman"
Symphony No. 5 "Wild Wales", for brass band
Symphony No. 6 "Old England", for military band
Symphony No. 7 "Al Aaraaf", for strings (an arrangement of the String Sextet, Op. 43)
Symphony No. 8, "Dance Symphony" for piano and orchestra (also known as Piano Concerto No. 3, and really a piano concerto - the full score is missing; only the two piano score exists, but I am hoping to interest someone in orchestrating it)

So there we are. Plenty to be going on with!

I would also like to see Stanley Wilson's two symphonies recorded:
A Skye Symphony (a Carnegie Medal winner, score & parts published Stainer & Bell)
Symphony No. 2 for chorus and orchestra (unpublished; MS at RCM)
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2018, 01:45:34 pm »

Thanks for your detailed reply, Gareth.

Given that it obviously costs much more to record a work employing a chorus then I would have thought that Symphony No.1 "Les Hommages" might be a starter or perhaps including Symphony No.7 "Al Aaraaf" along with other works for strings?

Have you gained any impression when CPO will unleash their recording of Symphony No.3 etc on the world? I would have thought that Howard Griffiths himself would not want his efforts to lie around on CPO's (obviously almost endless) shelves when we could actually get to hear the music he had conducted!!
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2018, 02:11:52 pm »

I read somewhere that Howard Griffiths was stepping down this year,from his post as conductor of the Brandenburgisches Staatsorchester. If this is true it might not bode well for any further recordings of Holbrooke,I fear?! Sad
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2018, 03:11:34 pm »

My contact at CPO tells me the Holbrooke disk should be released this year. Let us hope so.
Howard may be working with some  British orchestras in future and there is a possibility that some of Holbrooke's choral music may be recorded with a British orchestra and chorus under Howard Griffiths' baton. However, none of this is confirmed. So we must just all hope and pray.
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2018, 03:59:31 pm »

Thank you,Gareth! Smiley I hope so and look forward to it's release. I thought the last Cpo release was,very possibly,the finest Holbrooke cd ever?! Although,I like all the Holbrooke cd's I've heard! I hope that the latter comes to fruition. I'd love a chance to hear his choral music. I may be in a minority,but I love his music.
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