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« Reply #60 on: May 08, 2018, 08:27:39 am »

Well I can't find them, I'm afraid. Are you using the US site perhaps? Would be glad for a link.
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« Reply #61 on: May 08, 2018, 12:51:56 pm »

So there are videos put up on You Tube in the USA which cannot be watched in the UK? Interesting. I suspected something of the kind.

Folk who post cd recordings of music on You Tube when those cds are still commercially available are helping to kill small record labels imho.There may be an argument that people go out and buy the cd after hearing it in its entirety on YT but how many more will just download the music for free thus depriving the company of income?

Of course I have downloaded enormous (ridiculous in fact!) amounts of music but in most cases from radio broadcasts or from LPs long out of circulation. In those (few) cases when I downloaded a cd it was of music I honestly would never have bought and even then I felt very guilty

Anyway....the download button on You Tube seems to have been removed from music videos. There are free YT download programmes but they inevitably have "nasty" stuff embedded and end up messing with my pc
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« Reply #62 on: May 08, 2018, 03:07:49 pm »

Well I can't find them, I'm afraid. Are you using the US site perhaps? Would be glad for a link.

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« Reply #63 on: May 08, 2018, 04:37:23 pm »

Clicking on the video link you uploaded produces the message: This video is not available.
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« Reply #64 on: May 08, 2018, 04:37:48 pm »

So there are videos put up on You Tube in the USA which cannot be watched in the UK? Interesting. I suspected something of the kind.

Folk who post cd recordings of music on You Tube when those cds are still commercially available are helping to kill small record labels imho.There may be an argument that people go out and buy the cd after hearing it in its entirety on YT but how many more will just download the music for free thus depriving the company of income?

The thing is though (as I've just begun to observe), that all the Toccata releases I see on YouTube indicate "provided to YouTube by Naxos of America" (Toccata's distributor here).  They're not being posted by individuals.
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« Reply #65 on: May 08, 2018, 05:31:43 pm »

I wonder if Martin Anderson is aware of this.
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« Reply #66 on: May 09, 2018, 06:01:04 pm »

How could he not be?  Toccata owns the recordings.  Would Naxos post these to YouTube without his express authorization or instruction?

I presume this a deliberate marketing tool by Toccata/Naxos, - and with me a successful one.  I've purchased perhaps two to three dozen Toccata CD's after first listening to the music on YouTube, most of which I would be unlikely to take a chance on without such allowance. 
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« Reply #67 on: May 09, 2018, 06:14:44 pm »

I wonder if Martin Anderson is aware of this.

Yes quite aware after signing the contracts.  Naxos is a US distributor for at least 20+  small companies including Ondine and others.   Just go to the Naxos site and look over on the right panel.. they have recent releases of about 20 companies they distribute.
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« Reply #68 on: May 09, 2018, 09:42:47 pm »

I know of one company who signed up with a distributor who then, against the express wishes of the recording company, made their recordings available to Spotify, from which the returns are microscopic. That is why I asked.
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« Reply #69 on: May 09, 2018, 11:34:31 pm »

Interesting...  Would never have guessed that might occur.
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« Reply #70 on: May 10, 2018, 12:34:59 am »

I know of one company who signed up with a distributor who then, against the express wishes of the recording company, made their recordings available to Spotify, from which the returns are microscopic. That is why I asked.

Well, it's much more complicated than that.  Who owns the rights to the distribution?  The distribution company.  If you make a recording and work with a distribution company, you have very little control on how they distribute.  That is just an unrealistic expectation.  Most of the time, Naxos recordings are self funded and they get a cut in exchange for their presence and brand - their name recognition and distribution model is what you pay for.  I doubt you can tell them here is the recording I paid for and I only want it sold in three of the 50 ways you can sell it.  They can and do deviate from this but it is very rare (such as them commissioning Maxwell Davies' Naxos quartets). 
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« Reply #71 on: May 10, 2018, 03:31:49 pm »

Also, with the closing of Qualiton (distributor in New York City),  Naxos and others have been stepping up to fill the void. 
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