Albion
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« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2017, 04:01:34 pm » |
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Nobody mentioned knicker elastic as far I know,anyway!! :o ;D
Twang! ;D
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"A piece is worth your attention, and is itself for you praiseworthy, if it makes you feel you have not wasted your time over it." (Sydney Grew, 1922)
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BrianA
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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2017, 05:31:57 pm » |
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Whether Coke's concertos are "masterpieces" or not is totally bl**dy irrelevant. I remember battles at UC with AH (of blessed memory) over Cowen, Bowen and Gadsby about relevance and value. If a composer's work interests you on whatever level (it doesn't have to move you or prove to be the best thing since knicker-elastic) it's valuable and should be heard.
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Amen! Hallelujah!!!
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Albion
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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2017, 12:50:49 pm » |
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Whether Coke's concertos are "masterpieces" or not is totally bl**dy irrelevant. I remember battles at UC with AH (of blessed memory) over Cowen, Bowen and Gadsby about relevance and value. If a composer's work interests you on whatever level (it doesn't have to move you or prove to be the best thing since knicker-elastic) it's valuable and should be heard.
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Amen! Hallelujah!!! Praise the Lord ... and pass the ammunition. ;)
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"A piece is worth your attention, and is itself for you praiseworthy, if it makes you feel you have not wasted your time over it." (Sydney Grew, 1922)
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Gauk
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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2017, 10:23:34 am » |
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Thanks for the link. I just listened to it and I must say, it is not what I was expecting. It has the sort of mysticism that one might associate with, say, Roslavets. I imagined it would be much more conventional. Definitely interested in hearing more, now.
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Grandenorm
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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2017, 03:26:55 pm » |
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I'm so pleased. I thought you might be.
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cilgwyn
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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2017, 08:53:07 pm » |
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I think I was a little too hasty in passing judgement when I listened to it the first time! I really do need more than one listen,before I start 'sounding off'!! :-[ I did enjoy the first movement,mind. I can't think of many British Piano concertos influenced by Scriabin (anyone?!). I really do need another more relaxed listening session. When I recorded it via the R3 website (for my own use!) my mind was distracted by my 'watching' the recording as it progressed. Sacheverell Coke's life would make a biopic in itself,and I expect the booklet with the cd set will include fascinating details,and maybe a photograph (or two?) inside? That photo of him sitting at his concert grand is both poignant and moving.
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Gauk
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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2017, 08:44:13 am » |
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I can't think of many British Piano concertos influenced by Scriabin (anyone?!).
I guess the closest I can think of is Scott.
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ahinton
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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2017, 09:55:14 am » |
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I can't think of many British Piano concertos influenced by Scriabin (anyone?!).
I guess the closest I can think of is Scott. Indeed. There's also Sorabji but, even then, his many early concertos are nowhere near as close in spirit to Scriabin as are his first two piano sonatas (nos. "0" and 1).
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cilgwyn
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« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2017, 04:49:26 pm » |
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I can't think of many British Piano concertos influenced by Scriabin (anyone?!).
I guess the closest I can think of is Scott. Yes,I should have remembered Scott. His Second Piano Concerto,particularly. I need to do crosswords like my father. It might help with the old memory!! I did think of Sorabji,but I've never heard any of his music,I'm afraid! :-[ I was referring to ones I knew of course,including Scott,if I'd remembered!! ::) ;D
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Gauk
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« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2017, 06:04:01 pm » |
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I also thought of Sorabji, but then I went back and re-read that excellent essay on the Sorabji concertos by (what was his name again?) and decided they probably didn't fit the bill. Would love to hear them, though, even if they aren't his strongest works.
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