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Curious about music from the Soviet Union


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« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2016, 01:46:33 am »

Hi Holger,
Just noticed this old post.i also very much enjoy soviet era symphonies.Am listening to Karamanov as I type!
Was wondering if you would like to share some of your rarities.Perhaps the Shchedrin 3rd,anything by Shteynberg and perhaps otherwise unavailable Knipper symphonies.Or anything else you wish!

Don't want to impose,but many of these works are impossible to find.

Regards
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« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2016, 11:28:47 am »

Mosolov is rather a tragic figure. He was mentally broken by the harsh criticism he received, and his later works are sadly rather feeble.
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« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2016, 03:37:05 pm »

you might check out the reference on Soviet music by Dr Ho. 
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« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2016, 03:39:01 pm »

 here is the link on Amazon:   https://www.amazon.com/Biographical-Dictionary-Russian-Soviet-Composers/dp/0313244855/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1472255605&sr=1-1&keywords=Biographical+Dictionary+of+Russian%2FSoviet+Composers

Biographical  Dictionary  Russian and Soviet  Composers   By Dr Allen Ho and Dmitry Feofanov 
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« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2016, 04:26:31 am »

Thanks for the link.Such fine music [...]. Have you seen the youtube clip of a fragment of a Mosolov PC?Wow!
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« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2016, 10:05:19 am »

Thanks for the link.Such fine music. Have you seen the youtube clip of a fragment of a Mosolov PC?Wow!


When you say things like that, perhaps you might consider posting that youtube clip up here for everyone else to wow at too!  Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2018, 02:17:10 am »

http://slippedisc.com/2018/06/how-the-cia-funded-smears-against-shostakovich/
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« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2018, 08:43:35 am »

I'm surprised you use Lebrecht's site as reference material.
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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2018, 01:52:31 pm »


Is this in anyway an authoritative source?  The CIA, if you believe everything, is responsible for meteors, volcanos, climate change, AIDS, population growth, population decline,.... or is it maybe just rubbish?
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« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2018, 06:47:44 pm »

Is this in anyway an authoritative source?  The CIA, if you believe everything, is responsible for meteors, volcanos, climate change, AIDS, population growth, population decline,.... or is it maybe just rubbish?

Hardly.  'Slipped Disc' is primarily pile of factless gossip and twaddle, with specific and persistent interests in publishing lies about Valery Gergiev, Anna Netrebko, and other Russian performers. The author of the 'Slipped Disc' website has lost several legal battles, in cases where he printed complete lies about record labels - and was forced to pay punitive damages. The man is a complete charlatan, with no knowledge of classical music whatsoever.
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« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2018, 11:18:02 pm »

Is this in anyway an authoritative source?  The CIA, if you believe everything, is responsible for meteors, volcanos, climate change, AIDS, population growth, population decline,.... or is it maybe just rubbish?

Hardly.  'Slipped Disc' is primarily pile of factless gossip and twaddle, with specific and persistent interests in publishing lies about Valery Gergiev, Anna Netrebko, and other Russian performers. The author of the 'Slipped Disc' website has lost several legal battles, in cases where he printed complete lies about record labels - and was forced to pay punitive damages. The man is a complete charlatan, with no knowledge of classical music whatsoever.
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Gergiev made a lot of enemies,read forumklassika.ru
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« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2018, 02:44:15 pm »

Gergiev made a lot of enemies,read forumklassika.ru

But Norman Lebrecht is still a know-nothing charlatan   Wink
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« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2018, 03:15:00 pm »

I think your point is well-made, Neil, and expressed forcefully

Can we perhaps not go round and round the same old houses on this topic. There is unlikely to be agreement and the discussion has taken us to places we have been to before on a number of occasions.

I do not wish to inhibit debate but ....
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« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2018, 10:59:19 pm »

It is long but amusing on the same theme of Cold War in Music but more deepened:
https://books.google.it/books?id=O9xTBAAAQBAJ&pg=PT95&lpg=PT95&dq=cia+avantgarde+music&source=bl&ots=8kkGW5FeW9&sig=D56g4dTgjeUaP8l6UwadqeJq_mA&hl=it&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRiYH74-rbAhUBxKYKHUWBCEM4ChDoAQgmMAA#v=onepage&q=cia%20avantgarde%20music&f=false

https://books.google.it/books?id=coJyW7Ez3LIC&pg=PA95&lpg=PA95&dq=marshal+montgomery+jazz+trumpet&source=bl&ots=0GMERQpDan&sig=g7qAbcMiQ73VZvBNLtS2UnrU_TU&hl=it&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjD7d_B5OrbAhXBF5oKHWX3A4IQ6AEIZDAR#v=onepage&q=marshal%20montgomery%20jazz%20trumpet&f=false

"If we can't conquer the Communist East with weapons,then we will do it with jazz trumpets"


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« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2018, 11:06:41 pm »

Please, please do NOT post links without some indication of what the link is to and (very briefly) what it is about!

Simply saying "it is long but amusing" is not helpful to other members.

I do not wish to curb anyone's enthusiasms (I should know....I have plenty Grin) but...................
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