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Grace Williams - Missa Cambrensis


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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2016, 10:10:03 am »

Thank you for that wonderful news.
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« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2016, 07:58:36 am »

Yes, good news indeed. The off air recording is badly marred by the tenor frequently not hitting his notes, I assume he had a cold and sore throat. I think it is a marvellous work and look forward to a good recording.
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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2016, 06:53:14 pm »

"Badly marred"? Of course I don't know what notes the tenor missed but I admired his determination not to let the performance be canceled, by their applause the audience obviously pleased not only his performance but his grit, and since we got to hear the lovely piece for the first time we are lucky. Wait for a studio recording if you wish, in the meantime I will listen to this performance happily.
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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2016, 07:50:42 pm »

According to this month's Gramophone, this performance was recorded by Lyrita for release in August this year

Great news! I was lucky enough to be in the hall for this concert, it was quite an experience. Such a major work needs to be on CD.

Yes, good news indeed. The off air recording is badly marred by the tenor frequently not hitting his notes, I assume he had a cold and sore throat. I think it is a marvellous work and look forward to a good recording.

Do you mean the bass, who had laryngitis? (an announcement was made to that effect before the performance)
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« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2019, 11:19:27 pm »

According to this month's Gramophone, this performance was recorded by Lyrita for release in August this year

It beggars belief that the BBC and Lyrita regard this broadcast performance as "un-releasable"... on what grounds?

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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2019, 01:25:03 pm »

According to this month's Gramophone, this performance was recorded by Lyrita for release in August this year

It beggars belief that the BBC and Lyrita regard this broadcast performance as "un-releasable"... on what grounds?

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I think that the situation may well be that the soloist who experienced difficulties during the performance may have refused permission for the recording to be released. If you recall Brian Rayner Cook refused permission for the Marco Polo recording of Havergal Brian's Symphony No.5 "Wine of Summer" to be released because of his dissatisfaction with his own performance.
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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2019, 02:46:39 pm »

Whilst it may be the case that a particular soloist has balked at the idea of commercial release, I find nothing in the performance that in any way diminishes the grandeur and beauty of Williams' setting. We are highly unlikely to get another chance to hear it sung (especially by the chorus) or played so well...

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« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2019, 03:29:48 pm »

In which case we shall simply have to enjoy what we have- the off-air recording.
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« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2019, 03:54:00 pm »

In which case we shall simply have to enjoy what we have- the off-air recording.

Indeed, highly enjoyable and moving it is! This highlights once again the crucial role that off-air recordings play in allowing one to get to know a work that may never be commercially released: few, if any, would be able to grasp a work of this scale on the provision of a sole un-repeated broadcast. It needs and deserves repeated listening...

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« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2019, 10:45:39 pm »

I somehow seem to have lost my recording of the Missa Cambrensis and I can't now find the link in the archive to download it again. Can anyone help me, please?
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« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2019, 12:25:32 am »

I somehow seem to have lost my recording of the Missa Cambrensis and I can't now find the link in the archive to download it again. Can anyone help me, please?

I have re-uploaded the Missa Cambrensis for you, Gareth. I presume that you have all the details of performers?
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« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2019, 10:49:16 am »

Thank you very much indeed. Yes, I do have details of the performers.
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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2019, 01:15:17 pm »

I somehow seem to have lost my recording of the Missa Cambrensis and I can't now find the link in the archive to download it again. Can anyone help me, please?

I've checked and the link is still there. I still cannot believe that this performance is deemed unworthy of commercial release.

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« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2019, 01:21:56 pm »

According to this month's Gramophone, this performance was recorded by Lyrita for release in August this year

It beggars belief that the BBC and Lyrita regard this broadcast performance as "un-releasable"... on what grounds?

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There was quite a bit on the web,at the time (and here,in Wales) & how the (former) Archbishop of Wales,Rowan Williams,was taking part. (And it get's a good review here!) All the more perplexing,that it should be canned! Huh Especially,if these are the forces assembled,for the recording?! I have been enjoying some Welsh composers recently (That Lyrita cd of William Mathias This Worlde's Joie,is grrrreeeat!! Smiley) but I ,must admit,I haven't heard this yet! Thank you for the re-upload. I have downloaded it,now.....and Ethel Smyth's,rather enjoyable (I seem to remember?) Mass.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/mar/02/missa-cambrensis-review-grace-williams-bbcnow
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« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2019, 03:03:39 pm »

I enquired last night of someone in a position to know about these things.
The legal position is that the BBC cannot release the performance for commercial sale without the consent of the performers. If one soloist has refused his agreement because of dissatisfaction with his performance then that is it....full stop!
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