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« Reply #45 on: June 19, 2017, 01:47:43 pm »

Although it would not be unfair to describe me as being "obsessed" by the symphony as a musical form I am not particularly interested in any possible resurrection of Holbrooke's works for brass band and I would guess that works which require a chorus or soloists and chorus would be too expensive to record in the present climate. We have identified in the past one or two other orchestral works which might be more realistic prospects.
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« Reply #46 on: June 19, 2017, 04:23:17 pm »

That doesn't mean that other people might not want to hear them! I'm not a big fan of brass band music,but Holbrooke use of the brass section of the orchestra is one of the things that have always attracted me to his music. I have read,here I think (I need to go back through the posts) that the Fifth Symphony is more like a suite;but that doesn't mean it isn't necessarily worth listening to. I can think of some,so,called symphonies that are actually more like suites,but they are still very enjoyable. Of course,there are examples of symphonies,that are definitely symphonies,but are merely long winded and outstay their welcome.
I have to say my favourite music for brass band;and the examples I go back to more than any,are those suites by Holst. I'd be surprised if even Dundonnell doesn't enjoy them?!!

By the way,Gareth Vaughan will be pleased to know that I have just spent three days listening to every Holbrooke cd,off-air broadcast of a major Holbrooke work and cd with Holbrooke on it,in my collection. I thought even I would throw in the towel at some point;but to my astonishment I enjoyed every one of them!!
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« Reply #47 on: June 20, 2017, 07:56:12 pm »

She is his daughter in law - Gwydion Brooke's widow.

I think that's what I meant ...  Grin
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« Reply #48 on: June 21, 2017, 12:12:49 am »

That doesn't mean that other people might not want to hear them! I'm not a big fan of brass band music,but Holbrooke use of the brass section of the orchestra is one of the things that have always attracted me to his music. I have read,here I think (I need to go back through the posts) that the Fifth Symphony is more like a suite;but that doesn't mean it isn't necessarily worth listening to. I can think of some,so,called symphonies that are actually more like suites,but they are still very enjoyable. Of course,there are examples of symphonies,that are definitely symphonies,but are merely long winded and outstay their welcome.
I have to say my favourite music for brass band;and the examples I go back to more than any,are those suites by Holst. I'd be surprised if even Dundonnell doesn't enjoy them?!!

By the way,Gareth Vaughan will be pleased to know that I have just spent three days listening to every Holbrooke cd,off-air broadcast of a major Holbrooke work and cd with Holbrooke on it,in my collection. I thought even I would throw in the towel at some point;but to my astonishment I enjoyed every one of them!!

Of course it doesn't mean that others cannot enjoy these Holbrooke brass band symphonies! I was only-as ever-expressing a personal preference. I did not intend any criticism or disparagement of other folk's taste. Nor did I intend any offence to you and I apologise if you felt I was trying to do so!!
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« Reply #49 on: June 21, 2017, 04:34:58 pm »

I'm 100% sure that offence was neither meant nor taken. Holbrooke is not everybody's cup of tea, but he's certainly mine partly because of my fascination with his personality and the maverick nature of his inspirational sources. At his best, in works like Ulalume, The Raven and The Bells, he achieves a distinct and remarkably painterly musicality...

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« Reply #50 on: June 21, 2017, 06:52:07 pm »

I'm 100% sure that offence was neither meant nor taken. Holbrooke is not everybody's cup of tea, but he's certainly mine partly because of my fascination with his personality and the maverick nature of his inspirational sources. At his best, in works like Ulalume, The Raven and The Bells, he achieves a distinct and remarkably painterly musicality...

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I agree with all of Albion's reasons for liking Holbrooke. In my case,his connections with Wales,and the fact that I've always been fascinated by Welsh legends,folklore and mythology. I've also read The Mabinogion (Haven't we all?!! Grin) the collection of medieval Welsh manuscripts from which Lord Howard de Walden derived his long poem,and the libretto's for Holbrooke's The Cauldron of Annwn cycle. I've liked his music ever since I heard that Symposium cd of recordings of Holbrooke's music made in the thirties,and the Marco Polo cd's of his orchestral works that followed. I also still have the very nice letter I received from Holbrooke's son,Gwydion Brooke,and the Lp of Holbrooke's Chamber music (his own label) he sent to me,in response to my letter enthusing about his father's music.
Indeed! No offence was taken. I am sorry if my reponse to Dundonnell's post sounded a bit tetchy. The problem is,we Holbrooke 'groupies' need to hear just about every single thing he composed (okay,maybe not everything?!! Grin). I do like his use of the brass,though,and I can't help wondering what his brand band pieces sound like. Whether his Fifth Symphony is actually worth recording is another matter,of course! Just curious!! Roll Eyes Grin
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« Reply #51 on: June 21, 2017, 09:52:23 pm »

I am delighted  We are in no disagreement
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