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« on: December 20, 2015, 10:15:26 am »

This work is closely associated with Adieu.  It is basically an oboe quintet version of the piano and oboe piece.

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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2015, 03:48:40 pm »

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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2015, 06:37:34 am »

Well the word signifies "sensibility" in the Teutonic. Didn't Schumann write a song or piece with that name? I have recorded yours, since it is quite sensitively beautiful.

We may well though ask whether it is not for its composer rather than its auditors to "say" more about it? Compare a) the number of comments made by so many other people upon Brahms's fourth symphony with b) the remarks Brahms himself made or did not on the subject. Yet to which would one turn or go? And why?
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2015, 02:22:22 pm »

Well the word signifies "sensibility" in the Teutonic. Didn't Schumann write a song or piece with that name? I have recorded yours, since it is quite sensitively beautiful.

We may well though ask whether it is not for its composer rather than its auditors to "say" more about it? Compare a) the number of comments made by so many other people upon Brahms's fourth symphony with b) the remarks Brahms himself made or did not on the subject. Yet to which would one turn or go? And why?


Some translate the word as 'sensitivity' rather than 'sensibility'.  E.g Pertaining to the 'senses'.  That is the translation that I am referring to.  Yes, Schumann wrote "Empfindsam" ("Sensitive" or "Sensible").  A collection of piano works.  I much admire Schumann but there is no other connection but the name.
On a forum, it is best when the listeners get a good chance to voice their views about the music. To be honest, I listen to both.  Of course, Brahms' view is incredibly important to my overview of the work but other people's view also provide a fascinating insight; also, composers can be tricky - they say what is in their best interest for you to hear. Sometimes, they are biased in one direction or another. Believe it or not, they might not want to tell you the entire truth!
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2015, 05:02:51 pm »

I can fully sympathise with any member who starts a thread and then gets zero or little response. It is rather frustrating. Sometimes of course, I fully concede, one may have already written as much as anyone else would want to say Grin

I am afraid that I am not really a chamber music sort of person Embarrassed Roll Eyes so I cannot really comment or your piece with anything of value Sad
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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2015, 05:50:30 pm »

...it is quite sensitively beautiful.
Thank you for this comment.
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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2015, 05:51:48 pm »

I can fully sympathise with any member who starts a thread and then gets zero or little response. It is rather frustrating. Sometimes of course, I fully concede, one may have already written as much as anyone else would want to say Grin

I am afraid that I am not really a chamber music sort of person Embarrassed Roll Eyes so I cannot really comment or your piece with anything of value Sad

It is just nice to know that there are people out there listening to my music. Thank you.
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2015, 09:36:39 am »

We may well though ask whether it is not for its composer rather than its auditors to "say" more about it? Compare a) the number of comments made by so many other people upon Brahms's fourth symphony with b) the remarks Brahms himself made or did not on the subject. Yet to which would one turn or go? And why?

Probably not to Brahms, since much of the creative process is done by the subconscious, and it would not be strange if an academic actually had better insight into the structure of Brahms's fourth symphony than Brahms himself. This is one of the reasons for the existence of so much dull music, in that you get student composers who read these structural analyses and imagine that it's all thought out by the composer. So they laboriously try to recreate similar schemes in their own music, and the result is tedious and uninspired.
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2015, 07:57:24 pm »

I like your composition, Ian. However, aside from my liking of chamber music involving woodwinds and the piece coming across as atmospheric, it's hard to put into words precisely why.
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