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Twentieth Century Symphonies: the 'Missing Symphonies'

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« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2015, 12:39:08 am »

The three Wordsworth symphonies you mentioned are in our Archive on this site- although Nos. 3 and 4 are in rather aged recordings.


There is a good recording of 2 & 3 on Lyrita.

As Dundonnell nears the end of his ‘possibles’ list, these are the remaining British multi-symphonic composers I know of, not already well represented in the archive, to add for him to cross off as the works appear. Unlikely perhaps......


Denis ApIvor (1916-2004) 5
David Dorward (b.1933) 2
David Gow  (1924-93) 3
Richard Hall (1903-82) 4 (no.4 in archive}
Ian Parrott (1916-2012) 5
Morris Pert (1947-2010) 3 (interesting high profile rock percussionist/ classical composer– my tape of his knotty second symphony long gone)
Christopher Steel (1938-91) 7 (nos. 4 and 5 in archive)
David Wynne (1900-83) 3, 4th incomplete (no.3 in archive).


I would add to these-

Christian Darnton: Symphony No.1 (1929-31)
                                  Symphony No.3 (1944-45/1961)  (original version performed in Glasgow in 1945)

David Ellis: Symphony No.2 (1995)  (recorded in October 2003 and broadcast by the BBC in January 2004 with the BBC Philharmonic Orchestra/Jason Lai)
                     Symphony No.3 "Images from beyond Infinity" (1998)   (never performed)

Ruth Gipps: Symphony No.1 (1942)      (first performance by the City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra/George Weldon in 1945)

Wilfred Josephs: Symphony No.2 (1963-64) (first performance July 1965 Cheltenham BBC Northern Orchesra and BBC Midland Light Orchestra/George Hurst)
                               Symphony No.6 (1972-74) for soprano, baritone, chorus and orchestra   (never performed)
                               Symphony No.8 "The Four Elements" (1975-77) for wind orchestra or symphonic band (first performance August 1977 Harrogate British Youth Wind
                                            Orchestra/Harry Legge)
                               Symphony No.9 "Sinfonia Concertante" (1979-80) for viola, cello and small orchestra (first performance February 1981 Warrington Luciano Iorio, Lesley
                                                Shrigley-Jones and the Northern Chamber Orchestra/Nicholas Smith
                               Symphony No.10 "Circadian Rhythms" (1985)   (first performance October 1985 Norwich London Philharmonic Orchestra/Vernon Handley)
                               Symphony No.11 "Fireworks Symphony" (1992) for wind orchestra or symphonic band (first performance July 1992 Totnes Dartington
                                              Wind Orchestra/Colin Touchin)
                               Symphony No.12 "Sinfonia Quixotica" (1995) for violin, double bass and orchestra    (never performed)

Graham Whettam: Sinfonia Prometica (1999)  (never performed)
                                  Symphony No.5 (2001)      (never performed)



Surely someone out there recorded the David Ellis Symphony No.2 back in 2004 ??? ???
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« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2015, 12:48:44 am »

The three Wordsworth symphonies you mentioned are in our Archive on this site- although Nos. 3 and 4 are in rather aged recordings.


There is a good recording of 2 & 3 on Lyrita.

As Dundonnell nears the end of his ‘possibles’ list, these are the remaining British multi-symphonic composers I know of, not already well represented in the archive, to add for him to cross off as the works appear. Unlikely perhaps......


Denis ApIvor (1916-2004) 5
David Dorward (b.1933) 2
David Gow  (1924-93) 3
Richard Hall (1903-82) 4 (no.4 in archive}
Ian Parrott (1916-2012) 5
Morris Pert (1947-2010) 3 (interesting high profile rock percussionist/ classical composer– my tape of his knotty second symphony long gone)
Christopher Steel (1938-91) 7 (nos. 4 and 5 in archive)
David Wynne (1900-83) 3, 4th incomplete (no.3 in archive).


Just to expand slightly on some of these-

Denis ApIvor: Symphony No.1 (1952) (never performed)
                         Symphony No.2 (1963)
                         Symphony No.3 (1978-79) (never performed)
                         Symphony No.4 (1985) (never performed
                         Symphony No.5 (1991) (never performed)

David Gow: Symphony No.1 (1949)
                      Mini-Symphony (Symphony No.2) (1968)
                      Symphony No.3 "Wessex Heights" (1989) (first performance Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra/Norman Del Mar)

Richard Hall: Symphony No.1 (1944-53)
                        Symphony No.3 (1953)

Ian Parrott:  Symphony No.1 (1942-46)   (never performed)
                       Symphony No.2 "Round the World" (1960-61)   (first broadcast performance 1969 BBC Welsh Symphony Orchestra/John Carewe)
                       Symphony No.3 for string quartet and orchestra (1966)    (broadcast performance October 1972 BBC Welsh Symphony Orchestra/the composer)
                       Symphony No.4 "Sinfonietta" (1978)   (never performed)
                       Symphony No.5 (1979)    (first performance Coventry May 1981 Birmingham Philharmonic Society/Kenneth Page)

Christopher Steel: Symphony No.1 (1960)
                                  Symphony No.2 (1963)
                                  Symphony No.3 "A Shakespeare Symphony" for baritone, chorus and orchestra(1965)
                                  Symphony No.6 "Sinfonia Sacra" for soprano, baritone, chorus and orchestra(1985-86) (first performance Sheffield 1987 and revived several times by
                                                          choral societies in northern England)
                                  (Symphony No.7 is incomplete)

David Wynne: Symphony No.2 (1955)   (first performance Aberdare 1956 London Symphony Orchestra/Hermann Scherchen)
                         (Symphony No.1 was withdrawn and has never been performed)
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« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2015, 07:56:47 pm »

A few more (from outside the UK this time)-

Denmark:

Niels Viggo Bentzon:Symphony No.1, op.22 (1942)
                                     Symphony No.15 'Marrakesh', op. 432 (1980)
                                     Symphony No. 17, op. 522 (1988)
                                     Symphony No.19, op. 524 (1989)
                                     Symphony No.20, op.525 (1989)
                                     Symphony No. 21 'Niels Ebbesen', op.526 (1989)
                                     Symphony No.22, op.527 (1989)
                                     Symphony No.23 'Kaldet Piraeus', op.556 (1990)
                                     Symphony No.24, op. 597 (1990)

Svend-Erik Tarp: Symphony No.4 (1975)
                               Symphony No.8 for girls' chorus and orchestra (1989)
                               Symphony No.9 (1991)
                               Symphony No.10 “Tegn og Underlige Geninger” (1992)

Norway:

Conrad Baden: Symphony No.1 (1952)
                           Symphony No.2 (1957)
                           Symphony No.3 'Sinfonia piccolo' (1959)
                           Symphony No.4 (1970)
                           Symphony No.5 'Sinfonia voluntatis' (1976)

Sweden:

John Fernstrom: Symphony No.2 (1925)
                             Symphony No.3 'Exotica' (1928)
                             Symphony No.4 (1930)
                             Symphony No.5 (1934)
                             Symphony No.7 'Sinfonietta in forma di sonata da chiesa' (1940-41)
                             Symphony No. 8 'Amore studiorum' (1942)
                             Symphony No.9 'Sinfonia breve' (1943)
                             Symphony No.10 'Symphonie discrete' (1944)

Switzerland:

Conrad Beck: Symphony No.1 (1925)
                         Symphony No.2 'Sinfonietta' (1926)
                         Symphony No.3 for string orchestra (1927)
                         Symphony No. 4 Concerto for Orchestra (1928)
                         Symphony No.5 (1930)
                         Symphony No.6 (1950)

USA:

William Bolcom: Symphony No.2 'Oracles' (1964)
                              Symphony No.6 (1996-97)
                              Symphony No.7 (2002)
                              Symphony No.9 (2012)
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« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2015, 11:38:43 pm »

I am delighted to say that I have found the Christopher Rouse Symphony No.4 (2013) in its premiere performance by the New York Philharmonic Orchestra under Alan Gilbert on You Tube :)
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« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2015, 04:47:25 pm »

I got a surprise yesterday when I found that the complete symphonies of Don Gillis are available on CD. He's always been best-known for his Symphony No 5˝, and I have the CD of his 10th. But it was nice to find the rest are available on Albany, something I did not expect.
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« Reply #35 on: December 23, 2015, 06:01:43 pm »

I got a surprise yesterday when I found that the complete symphonies of Don Gillis are available on CD. He's always been best-known for his Symphony No 5˝, and I have the CD of his 10th. But it was nice to find the rest are available on Albany, something I did not expect.

I bought all of these Albany cds when they came out. I absolutely detest them ::)
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« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2016, 08:12:48 pm »

My suggested addition;

Ake Hermanson

Symphony no 2 (1973-5)
Symphony no 3 (1980)
Symphony no 4 Oceanus (1981-4)


No's 2-3 were first performed by the Swedish Radio Orchestra, so might still be lurking in their archives somewhere. Or at 29, 15 and 35 minutes respectively, they'd fit snugly on a CD. 
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« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2016, 01:07:21 am »

Hermansson's symphonies

I have recordings of the symphonies 2 & 3 of the Swedish Radio, years ago.
The timing of these two are 26 and 27 resp. So if the 4th (the one I never heard) takes 35 minutes, they don't fit on one cd, I'm afraid.

Was the 4th a radio recording too? I would like to hear that one
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« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2016, 02:35:18 am »

I have never heard of Ake Hermanson :-[

What is his music like?

If I had to pick another Swedish composer whose music I admire immensely but whose complete symphonies I do not have in my collection then I would pick Hans Eklund. I am missing recordings of:

Symphony No.9 "“Sinfonia Introvertita” (1992-93): 25 minutes
Symphony No.10 “Sine Nomine” (1994): 23 minutes
Symphony No.12 "Frescoes" (1996)
Symphony No.13 "Sinfonia Blanca-Negra" (1997-98)


The other nine Eklund symphonies have huge appeal to me. They tend to be rather dark-hued and grim but that Nordic intensity grips me :)
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« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2016, 12:29:20 pm »

Casual listeners will find Ake Hermanson's music rather difficult. On the surface, it's dense, dissonant and uncompromising.

However, I've found it very rewarding with repeated listenings. The symphonies are superficially reminiscent of Pettersson, though more relentless. There's a very strong sense of structure. The harmonies are dense but eventually reveal unexpected nuance.

Over the years I've come to like his music very much, particularly the symphonies, the orchestral work "Ultima," and his "Appell I-IV."
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« Reply #40 on: January 14, 2016, 02:10:11 pm »

Do any members have any examples of the music of Hermanson which they can upload?
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« Reply #41 on: January 15, 2016, 06:02:06 pm »

Hermansson's symphonies

I have recordings of the symphonies 2 & 3 of the Swedish Radio, years ago.
The timing of these two are 26 and 27 resp. So if the 4th (the one I never heard) takes 35 minutes, they don't fit on one cd, I'm afraid.

Was the 4th a radio recording too? I would like to hear that one

That's interesting. I took the timings from the Swedish Music website, but seems like no 3 lasts longer than suggested.

The 4th was premiered by the (Stockholm?) Philharmonic, so might not have been recorded.
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