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« Reply #150 on: October 14, 2014, 05:26:09 am »

Shaporin's "The Battle for Russia" comes in at 79:56 and my CD-R will not take the whole download. Is there a way to shave a few seconds off so the work will fit on one CD or to divide it between two CDs?
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« Reply #151 on: October 14, 2014, 09:28:08 am »

Shaporin's "The Battle for Russia" comes in at 79:56 and my CD-R will not take the whole download. Is there a way to shave a few seconds off so the work will fit on one CD or to divide it between two CDs?


"Christopher, thank you so much for the Shaporin uploads. 'The Battle for Russia' comes in at 79:56 and my CD-R will not take the whole download. Is there a way to shave a few seconds off so the work will fit on one CD or to divide it between two CDs?"
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« Reply #152 on: October 15, 2014, 04:08:17 am »

So, I will not be able to download it.
Thank you for that.
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« Reply #153 on: October 15, 2014, 12:25:17 pm »

So, I will not be able to download it.
Thank you for that.


For real?!
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« Reply #154 on: October 15, 2014, 12:31:14 pm »

So, I will not be able to download it.
Thank you for that.

If you have the time and inclination, save the file on your computer.  Then open it in this free programme - http://mp3cut.net/ - you will see how to make the cuts.  The timings are:

Track 1:

  01 Prologue (4:57)
  02. I. Dmitry Donskoy and choir (9:33)
  03. II. Cavatina Bride (5:13)
  04. III. Choir 'At night, when my mother lay down a horde' (10:53)
  05. IV. Arioso Dmitry Donskoy (4:25)
  06. V. Ballad Knight 'Again with the age-old yearning' (6:34)
  07. VI. Choir Tatars 'Go century' (7:37)

Track 2:

  08. VII. Lullaby mother (11:04)
  09. VIII. Choir messengers with Vityaz (4:36)
  10. Epilogue (11:16)

Feel free to upload your cuts here!
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« Reply #155 on: October 15, 2014, 01:53:02 pm »

Christopher, thank you very much!
I will give it a try.
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« Reply #156 on: November 05, 2014, 09:49:56 pm »

Thanks BrianA for those Bunin symphonies. I enjoyed them very much, I like his concise, but not unemotional style. Russian and Soviet composers are/were not known for their concision, but Bunin is an exception.

I also found his first symphony on YouTube.

BTW there are two Bunins who composed, Revol Bunin (1924-76), the author of these symphonies, and a Vladimir Bunin (1908-70) who is represented by one disk in the catalogue (whose music I haven't heard).
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« Reply #157 on: November 05, 2014, 10:26:09 pm »

Calyptorhynchus, coincidentally I discovered Bunin's First on youtube within the last couple of days as well.  That happy accident is probably the highlight of my week so far...

I know of Vladimir but like you don't know his music.  I have, however, managed to embarrass myself once or twice by confusing Vladimir with Revol.

Brian
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« Reply #158 on: November 06, 2014, 06:26:34 pm »

The symphony on YouTube is by Vladimir Bunin.
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I don't think Revol Bunin's symphonies have been recorded apart from 4,5,6 and 8
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« Reply #159 on: November 06, 2014, 07:09:27 pm »

Good catch, RK.  I was just coming back on the forum to point this out only to find out that you had beat me to it.  I thought it was too good to be true and I guess it was.

On the other hand it's oddly reassuring to know that I'm not the only one who's managed to confuse these two composers...
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« Reply #160 on: November 06, 2014, 07:11:01 pm »

PS:  Is there actually a recording of no 4 out there somewhere?  I only have 5, 6, and 8.
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« Reply #161 on: November 06, 2014, 08:25:00 pm »

You're right, only 5, 6 and 8 have been recorded. I admire Revol Bunin's music very much too and
would greatly appreciate modern recordings of any of his works. However, I fear he has slipped into
obscurity. Revol Bunin, Nikolai Peiko and Veniamin Basner all have distinctive voices but as contemporaries of Shostakovich have been overshadowed and forgotten.
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« Reply #162 on: November 07, 2014, 08:31:10 am »

How embarrassing to lecture evyone on the two Bunins and then confuse them myself.

Should have guessed, that symphony on YouTube is 38 minutes long, not concise at all.
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« Reply #163 on: November 07, 2014, 08:48:42 am »

My thanks also for the posting of those Bunin symphonies. The odd thing is, No 5 sounds extremely familiar, yet I cannot work out where I might have heard it. I don't have the LP, and I can't find any previous download of it.

Towards the end of the scherzo there is a passage that reminds me rather of Satie's "Parade".
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« Reply #164 on: November 07, 2014, 11:00:58 am »

Revol Bunin's Concerto in G minor, for chamber orchestra, Op. 33 was part of the Historical Russian Archives series, along with his 5th symphony. Rudolf Barshai conducting. (Concerto for what I don't know....can one have simply a concerto? Am I revealing ignorance?!)  If you don't want to fork out a large sum of money for the HRA boxsets (and they are not cheap) you can buy the pieces individually on Itunes.  However, some pieces (Bunin's concerto included) have been split into multiple tracks even if they are a one movement piece, and even where on the CD they are one track.  So you pay more.  I've ranted about this previously I believe....!
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