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Truly Bizarre behavior at Unsung Composers

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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2015, 06:15:46 pm »

Yeah, I agree. I've said my peace - and I'm glad I'm here. Enough from me.
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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2015, 09:06:09 pm »

Briefly, I got totally f*cked off and left them to it because I resented

a. being told that composers I was interested in were worthless;

b. being told that anybody who hadn't written a "masterpiece" was not worth investigating;

c. being treated as a disobedient schoolboy for arguing otherwise.

What a bunch of w*nkers.

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« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2015, 11:55:33 pm »

 ;D Great stuff!
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« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2017, 11:06:12 am »

What a bunch of w*nkers.
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Nice way of putting it.  :D
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« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2017, 06:31:27 pm »

What a bunch of w*nkers.
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Nice way of putting it.  :D

Lol, don't think much has changed. Bloody dry-as-dust...  ;D

I fear there'll be no reprieve for Poor Old Gadsby.  ::)
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« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2017, 10:33:12 pm »

What a bunch of w*nkers.
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Nice way of putting it.  :D

Lol, don't think much has changed. Bloody dry-as-dust...  ;D

I fear there'll be no reprieve for Poor Old Gadsby.  ::)


Yes - BUT - there is discussion there too, even if the comments are somewhat snide at times.  Here it can sometimes be all too silent.
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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2017, 06:15:37 pm »

What provoked the necro-posting? Something new happen?
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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2017, 11:31:52 pm »

What provoked the necro-posting? Something new happen?

oh...at least no one gets banned or has their thread "locked"....not that it happens from time to time...  sure do miss the Tower Records days when one could stop in during the lunch break and chat with fellow classical listeners about the new releases.. oh well.  :(
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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2017, 02:41:01 am »

What provoked the necro-posting? Something new happen?

"necro-posting" - best new word I've ever gotten from this site.   ;D
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« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2017, 04:36:16 am »

What provoked the necro-posting? Something new happen?

"necro-posting" - best new word I've ever gotten from this site.   ;D

think that means come back from the dead monthly and post something...??
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« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2017, 06:28:20 am »

Bet they still have my catalogues on their b****y site!! I am on holiday (in New Zealand, did I mention that?) so I won't bother getting cross.......again
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« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2017, 07:01:06 am »

I was rebuked by one of the moderators when I dared to mention Holmboe there. Holmboe!  :o
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« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2017, 03:21:56 pm »

I mentioned Langgaard  and was promptly yelled at... even tho he is "late romantic"  ... they said he was 20th century.... didn't fit in nicely with their already decided definition of what is romantic era....:(
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« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2017, 04:06:47 pm »

For what it's worth, I asked them to remove my contributions, including a number of catalogues as well - they didn't do it... I'm well past it - this is a much better forum, in all respects.
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« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2017, 05:27:10 pm »

I found the website absolutely horrible. I was quickly banned for telling Alan what I thought of him. . . . Sad the wonderful music is so poorly represented by this person.  But, it's his own little world.
A pity,indeed! I do like allot of the music they discuss there. I even like Raff. At best a very accomplished and talented composer. Also,one of those interesting puzzles. What happened? Why the decline in his reputation? Is it deserved? I can understand why some people would find him interesting. Spohr is another example. I find his music very satisfying. Draeseke,who I have yet to hear,is often discussed there. He sounds intriguing. The recently released boxed set from Cpo is tempting. His third symphony was widely performed. Some people seem to think he's a neglected master. Some don't!! And then there is Rubinstein. I eventually collected all six symphonies and spent allot of time mulling over them. A great pianist,a mediocre composer? Intriguing,yes? Unfortunately,I eventually came to the conclusion that while he obviously had a facility for colourful,engaging scoring,he didn't really have allot to say! I still quite like his Second and Fourth symphonies,though. And the symphonies I collected are all on my hard drive,for the purpose of future reference. If a label like Cpo ever give a Rubinstein symphony the kind of recording that Raff and Spohr have been treated to recently,I may even have another go?!! The recordings on Russian Disc and Marco are pretty awful. I seem to recall that a long deleted recording of the 'Ocean' symphony on the Turnabout label (never released on cd) was preferable to anything currently available! Look at the Spohr symphonies,for example. I collected all the Marco Polo recordings. They have been superseded by the cycles on Hyperion and Cpo. I personally found the Cpo recordings a revelation.....but in all fairness,the Marco Polo performances were competent. In fact,if the recording quality was better I would actually prefer them to the Hyperion cycle! Likewise Raff was represented by some decent recordings,prior to the superb Tudor cycle. And while the Raff Tudor cycle hasn't been the revelation that the Cpo Spohr cycle was......the quality of the performances has finally convinced me that Raff 1 is actually (although a little uneven) one of his most worthwhile and interesting symphonies,and Raff 2 and 6 are actually worth my attention.
I still don't think he's as good as the UC Forum say he is,though!! ;D
They also discuss other intriguing figures like Franz Lachner. His Fifth symphony is massive and has been described by some as a sort of 'missing link'! But I seem to recall reading that George Lloyd was outside their 'remit'?!! Wow!! ???
So,lot's of interesting music being discussed there and food for thought for people who are interested in that kind of repertoire. But I'd rather post here or at the GMG!! Maybe I should start a 'Romantic Composers Forum?!! Everyone would know what sort of music they were supposed to discuss!

That said,I have recently been absolutely and completely 'blown away' (as they say) by the music of Roussel and Honneger!!
Of course,it's aso possible that I only keep all nine of my complete Tudor Raff symphony cycle cds,because the jewel case look so great with those Arnold Böcklin paintings on the front. The whole design of those cds is so eye catching imo. Better than the music inside,perhaps?!! ;D ;D Seriously,I do like some of his symphonies. At his best his music is colourfully orchestrated and genuinely imaginative. He's just not the genius they try and make him out to be,over there. Spohr's better,anyway!! :o ;D

I don't understand why they would ban Dundonnell,though?!! One of the most polite,diplomatic people I have ever met on any online forum (or message board). And that dry sense of humour. When you think of some of the characters you 'bump into' online? The internet equivalent of that chap who thinks you're staring at him in the pub!! :o

And there I am using that word genius again! ::) Who cares if Raff was a genius or not,those Tudor cds look far too pretty for the charity shop! ;D
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