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« on: December 26, 2014, 07:38:42 pm » |
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A symphony by Anton Bruckner A piano concerto by Cyril Scott A symphony by Arnold Bax A string quartet by Paul Hindemith
If you can spot the connection, and can think of another work that shares the same (rare) feature, post it to this thread without saying what the connection is. Let's see how much the list can be lengthened before it's necessary to give away the solution!
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djarvie
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2014, 06:43:48 pm » |
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I believe I have identified a feature common to the four works, and that it is also shared by a symphony of Antonin Dvorak.
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2014, 11:17:42 pm » |
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Rare as you say this feature is, of how many other works beyond those you mention are you aware that share it?
What Dvorak Symphony djarvie? The ubiquitous one?
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2014, 08:10:19 am » |
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Greg K, if by "the ubiquitous one" you mean no 9, no, definitely not!
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2014, 09:28:46 am » |
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I'm going for a string quartet by Arthur Bliss and violin sonata by Delius.
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2014, 11:51:20 am » |
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I'm going for a string quartet by Arthur Bliss and violin sonata by Delius.
A violin sonata by Delius fits. I don't know a string quartet by Arthur Bliss that does, which is not to say it doesn't exist. A string quartet by Haydn does!
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2014, 04:40:54 pm » |
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And a piano sonata by Kaikhosru Sorabji?
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2014, 11:18:33 pm » |
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And a piano sonata by Kaikhosru Sorabji?
Quite possibly, and a string quartet by Schonberg can also be added to the list.
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2014, 09:54:16 am » |
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A string quartet by Alan Rawsthorne and Max Reger fit the bill. as does a violin sonata by Arthur Honegger. I'm not sure whether Gauk will allow a string quartet by Arnold Bax and Carl Nielsen and a violin sonata by Bohuslav Martinu because er....... and I know no more. For those of you thinking this is like the game 'Mornington Crescent' I don't think it is.. or hope it isn't! For those unfamiliar with the game, try this link, which is quite amusing:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mornington_Crescent_(game)
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Gauk
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2014, 05:39:16 pm » |
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A string quartet by Alan Rawsthorne and Max Reger fit the bill. as does a violin sonata by Arthur Honegger.
The last two, yes - I am not sure about the Rawsthorne.
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2015, 12:51:06 pm » |
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Just to put anyone who didn't solve it out of their misery, they are all pieces that are known by the numeral 0, Bruckner's Symphony No 0 "Die Nullte" being by far the best known.
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2015, 11:04:34 pm » |
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OK, what do these composers have in common? I have left out a few well-known AND a few very obscure composers who qualify for the list, on the grounds that their inclusion might make determining the common feature too easy. There may be others that I have not thought of or am nor aware of.
I imagine that a few of you might spot this immediately.
Kalevi Aho Hector Berlioz Benjamin Britten Aaron Copland Vincent d'Indy Franz Hummel Aram Khachaturian Valeri Kikta Edouard Lalo Carl Nielsen Alan Pettersson Poul Ruders Valentin Silvestrov Mieczyslaw Weinberg
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2015, 06:09:00 pm » |
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I think the answer must be that they have all written concertante symphonies, except I know of no such work by Nielsen. And it is stretching things a bit in the case of Khachaturian's "Symphony-poems". Valeri Kikta I know nothing about.
Aho - various Berlioz - viola Britten - cello Copland - organ d'Indy - piano Hummel - violin Khachaturian - various Kikta - ??? Lalo - violin Nielsen - ??? Pettersson - saxophone Ruders - organ Silvestrov - flute, timpani & piano Weinberg - presumably harpsichord, but I'm not sure this is really a concertante part
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Patrick Murtha
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2015, 07:15:16 pm » |
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Pretty much. The answer I had in mind is symphonies with prominent parts for solo instruments.
Kalevi Aho - Symphony No. 3 (violin); Symphony No. 8 (organ); Symphony No. 9 (trombone); Chamber Symphony No. 3 (saxophone) Hector Berlioz - Harold in Italy (viola) Benjamin Britten - Symphony for Cello and Orchestra Aaron Copland - Symphony for Organ and Orchestra Vincent d'Indy - Symphony on a French Mountain Air (piano) Franz Hummel - Hatikva (Symphony for Clarinet and Orchestra) Aram Khachaturian - Symphony No. 3 (organ) Valeri Kitka - Frescoes of St. Sophia of Kiev (Concert Symphony for Harp and Orchestra) Edouard Lalo - Symphonie espagnole (violin) Carl Nielsen - Symphony No. 5 (snare drum) Alan Pettersson - Symphony No. 16 (saxophone) Poul Ruders - Symphony No. 4 (organ) Valentin Silvestrov - Metamusik (Symphony for Piano and Orchestra); Widmung (Symphony for Violin and Orchestra); Meditation (Symphony for Cello and Orchestra) Mieczyslaw Weinberg - Symphony No. 7 (harpsichord)
I left off several composers of works for organ and orchestra that I thought might be give-aways:
Marcel Dupre - Symphony for Organ and Orchestra Joseph Jongen - Symphonie Concertante for Organ and Orchestra Camille Saint-Saens - Symphony No. 3 Tomas Svoboda - Symphony No. 3 Chaerles-Marie Widor - Symphony for Organ and Orchestra, Op. 42; Symphony No. 3; Sinfonia sacra; Symphonie antique
I might have included:
George Enescu - Symphonie Concertante (cello) Alan Hovhaness - Symphony for Guitar and Orchestra Ernst Bloch - Symphony for Trombone and Orchestra Sergei Prokofiev - Symphony-Concerto (cello) Edmund Rubbra - Sinfonia Concertante (piano) Karol Szymanowski - Symphony No. 4 (piano) Ernst Toch - Symphony for Piano and Orchestra (Piano Concerto No. 2) William Walton - Sinfonia Concertante (Piano) Ellen Taaffe Zwilich - Symphony No. 2 (cello)
And there are some obscurities I also left off:
Razmik Hovhannisyan - Symphony for Violin and Orchestra Joseph Swensen - The Fire and the Rose (Symphony for Horn and Orchestra) Dan Welcher - Pisces (Symphony for Bassoon and Orchestra)
Any more I have omitted?
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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2015, 07:48:21 pm » |
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Hoddinott 7, Fricker 5 and Creston 6 - all organ and orchestra.
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