Listening/recording from the BBC

[calyptorhynchus]

I've been clicking fruitlessly around the Radio 3 website for about half an hour without being able to answer the following questions:

1. Can I, in Australia, listen over the internet to streaming Radio 3 programs? (Because if I can I can probably find an app to record the inhouse performances that are non copyright)
2. Is there anywhere on the Radio 3 site that actually lists the pieces that are going to be played (ie, not "XY explores pieces by Bach, Barber and Ginastera" but "Bach: Violin Concerto in A minor, played by &c").

In the old days (70s and 80s) you bought the Radio Times and all the playlists for the week were printed.

[Jolly Roger]

I've been clicking fruitlessly around the Radio 3 website for about half an hour without being able to answer the following questions:

1. Can I, in Australia, listen over the internet to streaming Radio 3 programs? (Because if I can I can probably find an app to record the inhouse performances that are non copyright)
2. Is there anywhere on the Radio 3 site that actually lists the pieces that are going to be played (ie, not "XY explores pieces by Bach, Barber and Ginastera" but "Bach: Violin Concerto in A minor, played by &c").

In the old days (70s and 80s) you bought the Radio Times and all the playlists for the week were printed.

The Australia question you can answer, click on the player to hear..it works in the US.

Several free programs can be found to record what you can hear with a web search. free recorder, etc
(Shut down operating system noises from the control panel, (if you have an Apple you are on your own)

What is available 1)today and 2)next week on the player, different list for each program

Through the night
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006tmq9/episodes/player
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006tmq9/broadcasts/2014/

Radio3 live
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b010xvfz/episodes/player
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b010xvfz/broadcasts/upcoming

BBC proms (extensive archive0
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007v097/episodes/player
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007v097/clips

essential classics
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b014r87y/episodes/player
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b014r87y/broadcasts/upcoming

afternoon on 3
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006x3cd/episodes/player
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006x3cd/broadcasts/upcoming

composer of the week:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006tnxf/episodes/player
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006tnxf/broadcasts/upcoming

[calyptorhynchus]

Thanks to Shamus (offline) and Jolly Roger, I've answered the question, though the daily schedule is very clunky (having to click on each segment) and you have to listen to that chunk, you can't go to the individual pieces.

However, I think if something rare did come up I could listen and capture it. The only difficulty would be getting notice of it, as I'm unlikely to have the time to go through the schedule consistently.

[Gauk]

The current Radio 3 listings are so annoying, I have a mind to write and complain. The management seem to think that the audience are interested in the presenter rather than the music. It's not as if they have Patricia Hughes any more, either!

[cjvinthechair]

Several free programs can be found to record what you can hear with a web search. free recorder, etc
(Shut down operating system noises from the control panel, (if you have an Apple you are on your own)

Mr. JR - recording/downloading from radio etc. for idiots; is there anything I could cope with (don't have any sophisticated equipment or the ability to use it !) ?

Thanks - in (vague !) hope.       

[calyptorhynchus]

Re recording, if you are streaming the radio program on to your PC and the connection speed is good enough so there aren't jumps and interruptions, then it's possible to record the stream as an MP3. I had a little app for that once but I think it was on a 30 day trial and expired so I'll have to hunt around. I don't know about free ones but there should be apps for PC or Mac available relatively cheaply.

[shamus]

As to recording applications, I bought TotalRecorder many years ago for a one-time amount and it has been very good, maybe would be better if I were more technologically savvy, nonetheless, it records and allows me to edit out things like applause between movements, set balance, fade at end, and I make mp3s, but I believe it does others, .wma for sure, flac maybe. I am not a salesman for them, just satisfied customer. As to free ones, one would just have to try them out, just google "free online recorders" and see if they really are free, or if there are two or three editions, each one with more features. I can't remember the name, but one I used was excellent and easy to understand, and basic was free forever, so they are there. Free Sound Recorder may be the name I am grasping for. Jim

PS: I record a lot, I am retired so my hobby/obsession is to search, lurk, browse or whatever I can do to get "our" kind of music, so if you want you can check with me, all I can say is no, I didn't get that one.

http://www.freesoundrecorder.net/

[Dundonnell]

The current Radio 3 listings are so annoying, I have a mind to write and complain. The management seem to think that the audience are interested in the presenter rather than the music. It's not as if they have Patricia Hughes any more, either!

In the 1980s all of the BBC's Music Producers were summoned to a monthly meeting at Broadcasting House in London. The meeting was chaired by the then Controller of BBC Three, the late Ian McIntyre, At the meeting there was a round-table review of the musical output of the previous month. One of the most common criticisms voiced by some producers was that an announcer, probably working out of one of the regional stations of the Corporation, had gone "off-script" in some slight fashion and had interposed some element of their own personality or personal views on the music to be played. This was regarded as a cardinal sin and producers responsible were warned and instructed to see that this sort of thing was not repeated!


......plus ca change!

[rbert12]

About free recording software, Audacity works fine for me:
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

[calyptorhynchus]

I remember Radio 3 in the late 70s and early 80s and what amused me was a piece would end and then after a pause the announcer would say 'That was....' in a sepulchral voice.

However, jump forward to now when occasionally I turn on to Australian Classics FM and after two minutes I'm screaming "shut up, play the music", "I'm not two years old", "No, a serpent isn't a woodwind instrument!" and so on, and my wife puts her head round the door and says I shouldn't be listening if it upsets me.

I've been ploughing through the Radio 3 schedules, and back in the 70s I used to think, looking at the schedule full of avant-garde pieces, "I'll never be clever enough to listen to this music". There was one program I listened to where they played the first Beethoven Razumovsky Quartet, followed by Simpson's Quartet No.4 (based on the same plan), would they do that now?  Now I'm thinking the schedule is a bit light weight and I don't think there's much I really do want to listen to. Appalled that they seem to play extracts from works sometimes, ie a movement from a Mozart piano concerto.

[Gauk]

Audacity is a must-have, whatever you use to do the actual recording. It is excellent for boosting recordings that have been made at too low a level, and removing clicks from recordings made off LPs. Anything I download, I generally run through Audacity for improvement (if needed) and then convert to m4a format, setting the metadata to my own system at the same time.

You may be able to use it to record directly from your sound card while playing (e.g.) a radio performance through the browser; it depends on your sound card. In Windows you need to go to the control panel and set up the recording source as the sound card, but with some sound cards this is disabled. I can record directly on my laptop with Audacity, but not on my desktop PC.

Beware that any pings from arriving emails or similar events will also get on the recording!

[Elroel]

After Shamus introduced me to Freerecorder, I bought the program. Must say I don't regret that. The program is pretty easy to use and does the trick for me. (The cost $ 17,-)

Audio Recorder for Free, is even easier to use, after a certain time you have to pay. It cost a lot more. ($ 40, or so).
With the bought version you can also rip cd's and burn them. http://www.audio-tool.net/help.html is there welcome page.

[cjvinthechair]

Much thanks for that, gentlemen - might venture out of my shell & see what the world of 'low-ish tech' can offer !

[Jolly Roger]

After Shamus introduced me to Freerecorder, I bought the program. Must say I don't regret that. The program is pretty easy to use and does the trick for me. (The cost $ 17,-)

Audio Recorder for Free, is even easier to use, after a certain time you have to pay. It cost a lot more. ($ 40, or so).
With the bought version you can also rip cd's and burn them. http://www.audio-tool.net/help.html is there welcome page.

I can echo this..but be sure you control the download and skip the options offered including the upgrades, I even refused the toolbar option years ago and it works fine..

[Jolly Roger]

Audacity is a must-have, whatever you use to do the actual recording. It is excellent for boosting recordings that have been made at too low a level, and removing clicks from recordings made off LPs. Anything I download, I generally run through Audacity for improvement (if needed) and then convert to m4a format, setting the metadata to my own system at the same time.

You may be able to use it to record directly from your sound card while playing (e.g.) a radio performance through the browser; it depends on your sound card. In Windows you need to go to the control panel and set up the recording source as the sound card, but with some sound cards this is disabled. I can record directly on my laptop with Audacity, but not on my desktop PC.

Beware that any pings from arriving emails or similar events will also get on the recording!

Go to the control panel and shut off the system sounds..no pings, dings or eeps!!