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"War Symphonies"


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« Reply #30 on: October 26, 2013, 11:29:14 am »

You can hear Janus Ciker's compelling, turbulent and unheralded war statement here..
Symphony 1945
http://classical-music-online.net/en/production/51451
Be advised the clip is overattenuated, so lower the volume at the site for best results, it is worth it..

I'll see if I can post my copy - it might be better.
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« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2013, 04:29:19 pm »

I'm a fan of Khachaturian 2, but the only recording I've heard that does it justice -- that keeps the inner intensity without outer blustering -- is the one he made in Vienna.

The first movement of Alfvén's symphony 5 may be the strongest music he ever wrote. I believe it was written during WW II and for some years played as a stand-alone piece. Has anyone heard the recording Alfvén made of it in the late 1950s?
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« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2013, 10:22:25 am »

Janus Ciker is better known as Jan Cikker[1911-1990], a Slovak composer, who's '1945' Symphony I a long time ago posted. '1945' is his 3td symphony. The symphony was written in 1975.
Or is there a real Janus Ciker?

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« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2013, 05:30:52 pm »

No, this is Jan Cikker ... I went to post it in downloads then found it was already there, and I am sure it is the same LP.
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« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2013, 04:22:26 pm »

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Holmboe's Sinfonia Disintegrazzione, his response to the Nazi invasion of Denmark. Sadly, the only recording of the work is a complete mess, to the extent that in the scherzo the percussion section play a complete bar later than the rest of the orchestra.
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« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2013, 05:29:22 pm »

Personally I would include Rubbra: Symphony No 4, with its inspiriting conclusion and certainly Hubert Clifford's 'Symphony 1940' which certainly related to the time of its conclusion and has a wonderfully defiant ending, in which Clifford (according to the booklet notes) defiantly shakes his fist at the heavens and at would-be oppressors (it was written in London during one of the first bombing raids of the Blitz). It can be found on Chandos, accompanied by the equally fine Symphony No 2 by Edgar Bainton (1939-1940).
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« Reply #36 on: November 01, 2013, 06:07:21 pm »

Personally I would include Rubbra: Symphony No 4, with its inspiriting conclusion and certainly Hubert Clifford's 'Symphony 1940' which certainly related to the time of its conclusion and has a wonderfully defiant ending, in which Clifford (according to the booklet notes) defiantly shakes his fist at the heavens and at would-be oppressors (it was written in London during one of the first bombing raids of the Blitz). It can be found on Chandos, accompanied by the equally fine Symphony No 2 by Edgar Bainton (1939-1940).
A wonderful cd. The kind of release that used to get me leafing eagerly through the pages of Gramophone to the Chandos (new releases) ad!
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« Reply #37 on: November 01, 2013, 06:24:57 pm »

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Holmboe's Sinfonia Disintegrazzione, his response to the Nazi invasion of Denmark. Sadly, the only recording of the work is a complete mess, to the extent that in the scherzo the percussion section play a complete bar later than the rest of the orchestra.

What?! I've never heard of that work! Could you please point me to the recording of it?
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« Reply #38 on: November 01, 2013, 10:29:54 pm »

Personally I would include Rubbra: Symphony No 4, with its inspiriting conclusion and certainly Hubert Clifford's 'Symphony 1940' which certainly related to the time of its conclusion and has a wonderfully defiant ending, in which Clifford (according to the booklet notes) defiantly shakes his fist at the heavens and at would-be oppressors (it was written in London during one of the first bombing raids of the Blitz). It can be found on Chandos, accompanied by the equally fine Symphony No 2 by Edgar Bainton (1939-1940).
A wonderful cd. The kind of release that used to get me leafing eagerly through the pages of Gramophone to the Chandos (new releases) ad!

Me too - sadly their new releases are now more or less mainstream - a sign of the times I guess.
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« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2013, 11:57:27 pm »

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Holmboe's Sinfonia Disintegrazzione, his response to the Nazi invasion of Denmark. Sadly, the only recording of the work is a complete mess, to the extent that in the scherzo the percussion section play a complete bar later than the rest of the orchestra.

What?! I've never heard of that work! Could you please point me to the recording of it?

Seconded. Please tell us more about it?
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« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2013, 12:59:17 am »

Colin's catalogue doesn't list it Huh......
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« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2013, 10:32:33 pm »

Sorry, I missed these posts ... so (about a month late) here is a link to the whole sorry tale -

http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2010/Apr10/Holmboe_CDDK2009.htm
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« Reply #42 on: December 07, 2013, 10:37:58 pm »

Sorry, I missed these posts ... so (about a month late) here is a link to the whole sorry tale -

http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2010/Apr10/Holmboe_CDDK2009.htm

I still don't understand? Huh Is that review some type of April Fools joke? Huh
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« Reply #43 on: December 07, 2013, 11:11:17 pm »

Colin's catalogue doesn't list it Huh......

No wonder Roll Eyes

It doesn't exist Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The whole thing is an April Fools' Joke Roll Eyes Whether you think that it is in good taste is up to you Huh

(Congratulations, Kyle on scoring your second thousand Smiley)
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« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2013, 11:30:31 pm »

No wonder Roll Eyes

It doesn't exist Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The whole thing is an April Fools' Joke Roll Eyes Whether you think that it is in good taste is up to you Huh

(Congratulations, Kyle on scoring your second thousand Smiley)

No, I do not think such jokes are good taste Roll Eyes Reminds me of similar "fake reviews" for Mahler's "Violin Concerto" and a Boulez recording of VW's Symphonies 4 and 6!

Oh, I just realized I had reached two thousand! I guess I shouldn't be surprised Grin
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