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The Dozen Most Neglected on CD Non-British 20th Century Symphonists


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« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2013, 02:04:39 pm »

I agree! I find it interesting that the Cowell symphonies I have enjoyed the most are those conducted by Whitney on the old Louisville recordings (No's 11 & 15) & Hanson conducting the Fourth with the Eastman Rochester Orchestra. Both of them good,competent conductors,decent orchestras & atmospheric recordings. I enjoy,most of,if not,all their work. Personally,I think No's 11 & 15 especially 15 (edit: No11,get it right,man! Roll Eyes Grin) have some arresting ideas. But they do seem more like suites,than symphonies & the level of inspiration is uneven. The recordings are very committed though & have allot of atmosphere. Botstein's eleventh (available as a download) is in modern sound,but seems bland in comparison.
I have heard good things about Dean Dixon & must have another listen to his recording of Cowell's Fifth.
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« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2013, 10:23:47 pm »

Two newer hispanic composers who merit recognition

Luiz de los Cobos (Spanish)at least 2 symphonies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_de_los_Cobos#Compositions
the 2nd is a blockbuster
http://www.auditoriomigueldelibes.com/multimedia/cobos/

Esteban Benzecry (Argentine) 3 great symphonies all are noteworthy
http://estebanbenzecry.com/eng/
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« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2013, 10:53:40 pm »

An astounding 20 symphonies from this creative, prolific yet obscure Russian..try no 8 for starters!
This composer merits a separate thread in this forum
Knipper, Lev(18981974)
http://home.wanadoo.nl/ovar/knipper.htm
http://www.chantdumonde.com/en/editions/fiche_compositeur.php?compositeurid=9
http://classical-music-online.net/en/composer/Knipper/3781

Symphony № 8 (1942) - Michael Krutik, violin -St. Petersburg State Academic Symphony Orchestra, Alexander Titov, conductor
1. Andante solemnis
2. Andante semplice
3. Adagio. Allegro moderato

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« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2013, 01:22:49 am »

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Esteban Benzecry (Argentine) 3 great symphonies all are noteworthy

Yes, an excellent composer! I'll try to post a couple of his works soon.
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« Reply #49 on: March 15, 2013, 01:29:38 am »

An astounding 20 symphonies from this creative, prolific yet obscure Russian..try no 8 for starters!
This composer merits a separate thread in this forum
Knipper, Lev(18981974)
http://home.wanadoo.nl/ovar/knipper.htm
http://www.chantdumonde.com/en/editions/fiche_compositeur.php?compositeurid=9
http://classical-music-online.net/en/composer/Knipper/3781

Symphony № 8 (1942) - Michael Krutik, violin -St. Petersburg State Academic Symphony Orchestra, Alexander Titov, conductor
1. Andante solemnis
2. Andante semplice
3. Adagio. Allegro moderato

A post for Knipperites,everywhere! Smiley



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« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2013, 09:36:52 am »

Knipper's 4th used, I think, to be quite popular - or to put it more precisely, either it used a pre-existing popular song or part of it became a popular song, because I remember once hearing a French tourist whistling it.
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« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2013, 11:33:19 am »


Symphony № 8 (1942) - Michael Krutik, violin -St. Petersburg State Academic Symphony Orchestra, Alexander Titov, conductor
1. Andante solemnis
2. Andante semplice
3. Adagio. Allegro moderato



Sure, that this is correct? Is the Symphony 8 for violin and orchestra? (Surprisingly with exactly the same performers than the common recording of the violin concerto (1942))

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« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2013, 01:26:33 pm »

Knipper's 8th is for orchestra alone - it is coupled with the violin concerto, hence the violinist mentioned. He is definitely a neglected symphonist in my opinion. I have the score to the 15th symphony and it is a great piece!

On the subject of the fourth, the finale is choral and features a song written by Knipper in 'folk style' called Polyushke Pole. It became so popular that many Russian believed (and still do, according to Michael Palin) that it is an actual folk song, not one of Knipper's original compositions.

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« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2013, 03:29:58 pm »

On the subject of the fourth, the finale is choral and features a song written by Knipper in 'folk style' called Polyushke Pole. It became so popular that many Russian believed (and still do, according to Michael Palin) that it is an actual folk song, not one of Knipper's original compositions.

... and hence whistleable by French tourists! (Well, a very well educated one, anyway).
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« Reply #54 on: March 15, 2013, 05:39:18 pm »

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Esteban Benzecry (Argentine) 3 great symphonies all are noteworthy

Yes, an excellent composer! I'll try to post a couple of his works soon.
Dudamel conducts Rituales Amerindios on YT !
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« Reply #55 on: March 17, 2013, 08:26:11 pm »

Yes, that is correct, the solo violin is to be coupled with the concerto, not the symphony
sorry for the misqueue
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« Reply #56 on: March 18, 2013, 07:56:24 pm »

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Esteban Benzecry (Argentine) 3 great symphonies all are noteworthy

Yes, an excellent composer! I'll try to post a couple of his works soon.
Dudamel conducts Rituales Amerindios on YT !

Oh! No need to upload that one, then!
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« Reply #57 on: March 31, 2013, 06:01:25 pm »

One could easily provide a list of a dozen neglected American Symphonists: Daniel Gregory Mason; Edward Burlingame Hill; Frederick Converse; Milton Adolphus, John Becker, Paul Fetler; Nicolai Berezowsky; Nicolai Lopatnikoff; Otto Cesana; Philip Greeley Clapp; Carl Eppert; Louis Gruenberg; etc. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

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« Reply #58 on: March 31, 2013, 08:19:04 pm »

An excellent list, Karl! I would also add: Ernst Bacon, Lukas Foss, Henry Hadley, Vittorio Giannini (neglected on disc, not in our downloads), Vittorio Rieti (if he counts as American), Easley Blackwood, David Stanley Smith, Robert Russell Bennett, Gordon Binkerd, Eric DeLamarter, Cecil Effinger, Elie Siegmiester, Roger Goeb and Gene Gutche, just to name a few. You all know how I love making lists Grin
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« Reply #59 on: March 31, 2013, 09:22:38 pm »

Easley Blackwood is a name to conjure with. I first came across him thanks to a terrible library LP (in a very enlightened - then - public library) with his 2nd symphony. It was completely scratched, but nevertheless, the power of the music caught my imagination. It took me decades to finally catch up with the piece on CD.
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