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Stjepan Sulek Symphony no 3


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« on: October 17, 2012, 11:16:44 pm »

There was a pretty good selection of the orchestral music of Croatian composer Stjepan Sulek, including most (all?) of the symphonies, most of which is still available on The Other Forum, but there were recurrent issues with the availability of the first movement of the third.  Does anybody have a copy of Sulek's intact third symphony, or even just the elusive first movement, which they would be willing to upload to the present forum?
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2012, 02:35:31 am »

I have 3 movements totaling over 25 minutes. The first movement is titled Allegro. If this is what you want I can upload the symphony.
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2012, 02:38:26 am »

I, for one, would be very grateful if you could upload those three movements, Frank, and I'm sure many other members would too Smiley.
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2012, 03:28:24 am »

THat, good sir, is precisely what I'm looking for, and I would accept your kind offer with gratitude!
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2012, 03:13:05 am »

And just like that it's done!  Many thanks, Fr8nk, both for Sulek 3 as well as the two Kalsons pieces I asked to be reuploaded.  Your kindness is greatly appreciated!
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2012, 06:54:00 am »

Is this the symphony with the linked scherzo and finale?  If so could anybody provide the movement names of the last two movements?  By this, I mean tempos, not just titles.
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2012, 11:51:44 am »

Many thanks from me also, Frank Smiley. Now we have all the Sulek symphonies Grin!
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2012, 02:47:43 pm »

OK.  I found it in the other forum.  This one has a slow finale (Larghetto), right?  I'd still like the tempo of the scherzo, if anyone has it available.
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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2012, 06:22:53 am »

OK.  I found it in the other forum.  This one has a slow finale (Larghetto), right?  I'd still like the tempo of the scherzo, if anyone has it available.

The three movement titles are: Allegro non troppo, Scherzo: Allegro, Larghetto.
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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2012, 02:51:22 pm »

Thanks!  I've been trying to build some attention for this composer from the conductor of a major American orchestra, if you've been following my adventures on Phaze.  Grin I've send her several CDs already and gotten a lot of positive feedback and one possible performance of the Raff piano concerto in the works, although no firm commitment to it. 
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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2012, 08:19:46 pm »

Wonderful, Jim! Now if only I could get my local orchestra to play something that I haven't already heard 100 times before Roll Eyes...
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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2012, 08:56:50 pm »

Wonderful, Jim! Now if only I could get my local orchestra to play something that I haven't already heard 100 times before Roll Eyes...
And 50 of them by them!
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2012, 06:54:10 am »

OK.  I found it in the other forum.  This one has a slow finale (Larghetto), right?  I'd still like the tempo of the scherzo, if anyone has it available.

The three movement titles are: Allegro non troppo, Scherzo: Allegro, Larghetto.
I find myself having a problem, having downloaded the piece and given it a preliminary hearing.  The Larghetto doesn't seem to end in the nominal tonality of the piece.  It's almost as if there's a finale missing, unless this is a work that uses progressive tonality.  Are you absolutely sure this is all there is of the symphony?
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2012, 09:41:27 am »

OK.  I found it in the other forum.  This one has a slow finale (Larghetto), right?  I'd still like the tempo of the scherzo, if anyone has it available.

The three movement titles are: Allegro non troppo, Scherzo: Allegro, Larghetto.
I find myself having a problem, having downloaded the piece and given it a preliminary hearing.  The Larghetto doesn't seem to end in the nominal tonality of the piece.  It's almost as if there's a finale missing, unless this is a work that uses progressive tonality.  Are you absolutely sure this is all there is of the symphony?

You are right. However, I have heard different performances of this symphony, one of them from a live broadcast, and none had more movements than this. It is true that the Violin Concerto, from the same period, is unambiguously in D Major. However, the Fourth Symphony from two years later, nominally in D minor, also uses some kind of progressive tonality: the whole beginning is tonally very ambiguous. The Third starts in E minor and ends in C flat minor, the relative not of E minor, but of E major. From what I know of his harmonic language, this kind of biased correspondence seems likely enough.
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2012, 11:32:14 am »

You are right. However, I have heard different performances of this symphony, one of them from a live broadcast, and none had more movements than this. It is true that the Violin Concerto, from the same period, is unambiguously in D Major. However, the Fourth Symphony from two years later, nominally in D minor, also uses some kind of progressive tonality: the whole beginning is tonally very ambiguous. The Third starts in E minor and ends in C flat minor, the relative not of E minor, but of E major. From what I know of his harmonic language, this kind of biased correspondence seems likely enough.

Where can I find the violin concerto you mentioned?
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