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1  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / General musical discussion / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: June 12, 2021, 06:02:57 pm


You don't have to write great symphonies and concertos to demonstrate that you are a genius. Oh, wait - he did that too!
2  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / Individual composers / Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912) on: June 11, 2021, 10:26:06 am
I see the the RCM has now put a copyist's MS of The Atonement on IMSLP as well as the holograph. I have started perusing the latter which they put up on Monday and so far as I can tell, it is the original, complete version. There is a lengthy cut marked by chinagraph crosses at one point which I imagine must reflect the bowdlerised version. I'll see, once the copyist's MS has satisfied the copyright police, whether the passage indicated to be cut makes it into that version or not. In four of the five sections, the copyist's MS has a few more pages than the holograph but the Pontius Pilate section has a couple fewer. This suggests that, on the one hand, the copyist's script is rather less tiny than Coleridge's and, on the other, that there is a cut.

This will probably be of interest to no-one except Albion and me but it does at least mean that, should any enterprising group wish to perform or record The Atonement at some future date, they can do so (after a good deal of donkey work on preparing a printed score and parts). I'm not holding my breath, however, and I don't expect it will happen while I'm here to hear it!
3  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / General musical discussion / Re: Another birthday! on: June 11, 2021, 09:01:21 am
Alexander Balanescu (1954), Alexander Faris (1921), Carlisle Floyd (1926), Carlos Seixas (1704), Carmine Coppola (1910), Ferdinand Rebay (1880), Francesco Antonio Bonporti (1672), Francesco Antonio Vallotti (1697), George Frederick McKay (1899), Giovanni Antonio Giay (1690), Helen Tobias-Duesberg (1919), Indra Rise (1961), Josef Anton Riedl (1929), Joseph Vézina (1849), Jules Sylvain (1900), Kaare Dyvik Husby (1969), Morley Calvert (1928), Nils Lindberg (1933), Oscar Borg (1851), Richard Strauss (1864), Samuel Rousseau (1853), Shelly Manne (1920), Vissarion Shebalin (1902), Wen-Yeh Chiang (1910)



I'll spare your blushes...


...unlike Lady Frederica.

 Grin I think she'd need many more than just the seven veils!
4  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / Commercial recordings (vintage, new and forthcoming) / Re: Léon Boëllmann: Symphony and Symphonic Variations on Fuga Libera on: June 10, 2021, 03:18:36 pm
This has now appeared in the 'Future Releases' section at Presto Classical; scheduled releasse date, 9th Jul 2021.
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8917737--boellmann-symphonie-en-fa-majeur-variations-symphoniques-quatre-pieces-breves

I have been trying to see a score of this for years, in order to get the tempo for the Intermède variée movement. Is this information provided in the CD booklet?

The tempo marking of the second movement is given as 'Allegro ben marcato'.
5  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / General musical discussion / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: June 10, 2021, 11:03:18 am
Gilbert and Sullivan: The Gondoliers  soloists/ Pro Arte Orchestra conducted by Sir Malcolm Sargent    emi 2 cd's (I've got the old 'Fat Box' edition)

This has got to be the best sung Gondoliers. Not the D'Oyle Carte aren't good! The two stereo D'Oyly Carte recordings with dialogue are excellent! And,I'm a big fan of them! (The 1927 one is,arguably,even better! And the Pearl transfer has lots of lovely sausage frying noises! Shocked Grin) But for the sheer beauty & splendour of the singing,the Sargent has got to be my first choice,and takes some beating! It really is a feast for the old ear drums! I've got to disagree with Okapple about Sir Geraint Evans. He had a lovely voice & I wish he'd been in more of the Sargent Glyndebourne recordings! (My favourite Jack Point on record). And I've always liked Owen Brannigan,who is on splendid form here! And you've got Monica Sinclair and Elsie Morrison. Richard Lewis. You've even got Helen Watts in the cast! And as to being slow! No! The recording is vivacious! It skips along! They don't make 'em like this anymore! Wow! Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

I do so agree with you about the quality of the singers on these Sargent recordings. I have all Sargent's G&S recordings in a 16-CD boxed set (The Gondoliers, HMS Pinafore, Iolanthe, The Mikado, Patience, The Pirates of Penzance, Ruddigore, Trial by Jury and Yeomen of the Guard) that a good friend (knowing my proclivities!) kindly bought for me.

I sometimes wonder whether the Oakapple people will only accept productions that are either D'Oyly Carte's or clones of them. Anything a little bit different, even if artistically and objectively superior, seems less than acceptable to them. You just can't argue about the finesse of such artists as Elsie Morison, Heather Harper, Elizabeth Harwood, Monica Sinclair, Richard Lewis, Sir Geraint Evans and Owen Brannigan, can you? The orchestral contributions are spot on (larger string sections than you would get in a pit band but all the better for it) and first rate chorus singing too. Let's not forget that Beecham rightly said of Sargent as a chorus-master, "he makes the buggers sing like blazes". Each to his or her own but I'll take these Sargent recordings every time.
6  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / General musical discussion / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: June 09, 2021, 07:46:01 pm


Just listening to the Scottish Symphony from this set. Sometimes, only a masterpiece of the front rank will fulfil one's cravings. These performances by the Chamber Orchestra of Europe under Yannick Nézet-Séguin are exquisite. If you only have one integral set of Mendelssohn's symphonies, I'd make it either this one or Abbado's.
7  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / General musical discussion / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: June 09, 2021, 08:45:54 am
The ever-erudite and well-researched Petroc Trelawney on R3: Alexander Campbell Mackenzie apparently became Principal of the RAM in 1891, eh?

 Roll Eyes
One is no longer  Shocked ...
8  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / General musical discussion / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: June 09, 2021, 08:42:59 am
Youse guys get off your asterisks and tap both of them foots cuz you HAVE to for Russian symphonies*.


* and I **** well mean it.

 Grin Grin Will do!
9  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / General musical discussion / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: June 09, 2021, 08:41:32 am
This is what comes of typing post's at tea time! Roll Eyes I usually count the asterisk's,very carefully! All I could think of was,that I was going to be having ********** **** and a nice ***** sliver of ****** ******* ******. I could almost ***** it ******* up the ***** ****!

 Grin Grin Grin Morning, cilgwyn. I hope you enjoyed your tea, especially the sliver of ****** ******* ******. I can't remember the last time I had any of that. Yum yum!
10  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / General musical discussion / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: June 08, 2021, 10:28:34 pm

B****! A woman singing now! Shocked

I could be wrong, but I think you are one asterisk short!  Wink
****! Roll Eyes

Yep! Now that seems like the correct number!  Grin Grin
11  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / General musical discussion / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: June 08, 2021, 07:13:59 pm


I'm so glad you chaps decided to discuss Alnæs and thus encourage me to invest in this. What a cracker of a romantic piano concerto! I mentioned that the First Symphony wasn't derivative and neither is this concerto; rather, it actually anticipates the Rachmaninov of the Paganini Rhapsody (written decades later than this). The opening gestures of the first movement sound for all the world to me as if they come from the soundtrack of a 1940s film noir scored by Korngold or Waxman which, for the avoidance of doubt, I mean as a compliment. Now lisetning to the Sinding, which all the pundits say is less attractive but I am enjoying it!

A personal reminiscence: the pianist in this recording, Piers Lane, was an old friend of my late and much-missed piano teacher, Ronald Meachen. Ron told me one day that he'd written to Piers, explaining that he'd worked out a startlingly novel fingering for one of Chopin's études. Apparently, Piers replied, "I won't tell anybody if you don't!"  Pianists will understand why this is funny!
12  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / General musical discussion / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: June 08, 2021, 06:16:18 pm

B****! A woman singing now! Shocked

I could be wrong, but I think you are one asterisk short!  Wink
13  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / General musical discussion / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: June 08, 2021, 06:14:41 pm
I think you're in for a treat with,Alnaes,Lionel! Smiley

NB: Have you heard the Piano Concerto,yet?!!

I was going to wait until I had listened to the symphonies, but I have been so impressed that I'm about the click the 'download' button at Presto Classical now...

I'll let you know what I think as soon as I've given it a spin, but the Gramophone review is extremely positive so I don't expect to be disappointed!! Grin: "...Hyperion turns for inspiration to Norway and, in a first recording of Eyvind Alnæ's Concerto, they light up the sky like an aurora borealis. Here is music very much for those in love with the most succulent romanticism, with lush, lavishly decorated melodies and a fin de siècle array of props...."

Sounds right up my alley!

14  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / General musical discussion / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: June 08, 2021, 05:53:59 pm
I said I would order this today:



but when I looked at the Presto Classical website, it said it was out of stock and might take up to six weeks before it became available. Being an impatient old sod, I bought it as a download instead. I have listened to the First Symphony and I am very impressed. It's unmistakeably Scandinavian but I can't say it sounds derivative. It's very strong melodically, the harmony is piquant, the orchestration is excellent, reflecting the exigencies of both structure and dynamics, and whole thing just "works". I am looking forward to listening to the 2nd now. Smiley All those chaps further up the page were right. This music is too good to miss! 
15  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / General musical discussion / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: June 08, 2021, 05:39:56 pm
Ippolitov-Ivanov: Songs from Ossian (Three musical tableaux from Ossian) Slovak Radio SO/ Donald Johanos

This is very nice. Atmospheric tone painting. A bit like a cross between Balakirev and Lyadov,perhaps? I'm enjoying this. The sound quality is good,with a nice rich bass.

Turkish Fragments,now,op 62,now! A jaunty march,colourfully scored,as an opener. Then some colourfully scored music,with an exotic,eastern flavour. I'm really enjoying this.

The Slovak Orchestra sound like they're doing a decent job! Again,I find myself wondering why such colourful,tuneful music has been ignored for so long? I didn't expect to like the music,this much! (This is only my,second listen,to these pieces). My right foot is tapping to the rhythm here! Always,a good sign! Smiley

It looks like I might have been wrong (again!) in that, on the basis of your observations, I really ought to get to know more Ippolitov-Ivanov. From what you say, cilgwyn, these pieces sound as if they are in a similar style to the Caucasian Sketches and if that's so, I don't doubt that I should enjoy them as well. My right foot may start tapping! And, who knows, maybe my left foot too!   Grin
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