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31  MEMBERS' CORNER / Members' own compositions, performances & productions / Empfindsamkeit on: December 20, 2015, 10:15:26 am
This work is closely associated with Adieu.  It is basically an oboe quintet version of the piano and oboe piece.

https://youtu.be/t0skwHxe-bU
32  MEMBERS' CORNER / Miscellany / Re: What are the most annoying things about modern composers? on: October 24, 2015, 10:33:35 am
This has been the most sustained conversation I have had on this site.
33  MEMBERS' CORNER / Members' own compositions, performances & productions / Re: Rondeau - a bit extreme! on: October 05, 2015, 07:06:12 pm
Thank you very much.  Composers tend to write for the forces that are available to them so that they can get their music played by the musicians they admire.
34  MEMBERS' CORNER / Members' own compositions, performances & productions / Rondeau - a bit extreme! on: October 05, 2015, 05:28:13 am
Lively and a bit wild. Not playful... in a simple sense.
Not sure if anyone is going to like this one.

https://youtu.be/1bunN6u3J4I
35  MEMBERS' CORNER / Miscellany / Re: What are the most annoying things about modern composers? on: September 11, 2015, 04:54:09 pm
How so?
It's me. I just can't imagine them hitting it off. I think of them of opposites.
36  MEMBERS' CORNER / Miscellany / Re: What are the most annoying things about modern composers? on: September 07, 2015, 08:24:24 pm
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It describes how Gershwin helped to secure Schoenberg's passage from Europe when he fled the Nazis in 1933. Schoenberg also frequently visited the Gershwins in California.
Extraordinary!
37  MEMBERS' CORNER / Miscellany / Re: What are the most annoying things about modern composers? on: September 06, 2015, 10:02:30 am
Arnold Schoenberg and George Gershwin were connected by profession, religion (both born Jewish - Gershwin's Russian name is Gershovitz) and locality (both lived in Los Angeles). Despite the kind words, I don't think they had much else in common.  In musical taste, musical upbringing and musical outlook, they were polar opposites.  I think the warmth of the epitaph is mainly out of respect for a fellow musician and religious fraternity; something which would have been expected in that era.
38  MEMBERS' CORNER / Miscellany / Re: What are the most annoying things about modern composers? on: August 30, 2015, 09:00:40 am
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Schönberg did not compose anything worthwhile after his 1908 string 4tette, and certainly he could not be said any longer to be a "composer" by the time he reached the Americas. Nor do I think there have ever been any really worthwhile native composers in that part of the world.
I can't agree with you on any of these points. In fact, Schönberg did his best work after 1908. He is also a significant German song composer, comparable to Wolf,  Richard Strauss; maybe not quite in the same league as Mahler.
Native Americans are American Indians as far as I know! George Crumb is an excellent example of an American composer who could easily cross the Atlantic. If you are into modern music, there are whole channels on YouTube of similarly talented American composers. Not many countries around the world have generations of great composers. Austria, Germany that's about it. America has a recent history and a fair share.
39  MEMBERS' CORNER / Miscellany / Re: What are the most annoying things about modern composers? on: August 30, 2015, 08:41:43 am
Problem with multiple quoting - it takes the top quote as being the one for all of them.  I didn't know it was going to attribute it to you, ahinton, sorry.
40  MEMBERS' CORNER / Miscellany / Re: What are the most annoying things about modern composers? on: August 29, 2015, 06:05:40 pm
Is it not the case that Gershwin asked Stravinsky to take him on as a pupil?

But was it The Most Annoying Thing That He Did As A Modern Composer?  [Discuss]   :D

I would contend that one of the Most Annoying Things Which Modern Composers do is writing in absurdly small note-values...  as though writing in 32nd-notes implies some kind of great speed? 

Worth bearing in mind that breves were so-called, because they were the shortest notes of their era!  Or do we really believe that music in the thirteenth century was incredibly slow? ;)
Interesting points both! 32nd-notes have their place, but yes, certain composers seem to make their already complex music seem more complex by reason of the manner in which it is notated. Why?
Why not. Why should composers use the most common place notation all of the time? Bach used a lot of 32nd notes. I never heard any complaints about that.
41  MEMBERS' CORNER / Miscellany / Re: What are the most annoying things about modern composers? on: August 29, 2015, 06:01:36 pm
Is it not the case that Gershwin asked Stravinsky to take him on as a pupil? And that Stravinsky replied that it would be better if he were to be taken on as Gershwin's pupil?
Stravinsky asked him how much he earned.
42  MEMBERS' CORNER / Miscellany / Re: What are the most annoying things about modern composers? on: August 27, 2015, 08:43:47 am
Schoenberg also rejected him as a pupil. 

Everybody speaks nicely about people when they are dead!
43  MEMBERS' CORNER / Miscellany / Re: What are the most annoying things about modern composers? on: August 26, 2015, 10:06:59 pm
Do you think Schoenberg really respected Gershwin? I think it all sounds a bit patronising.
44  MEMBERS' CORNER / Miscellany / Re: What are the most annoying things about modern composers? on: August 25, 2015, 10:30:50 am
e.g. Boulez

Sorry, I am really confused.  How did we get from the 'human voice' to 'Boulez'?  Is that your answer or are we talking about a different subject?

Ahinton, surely you're not blaming the 'human voice' for the annoying things about modern composers, are you? (Or maybe you mean the other way around - I am totally confused!)
45  MEMBERS' CORNER / Miscellany / Re: What are the most annoying things about modern composers? on: August 24, 2015, 02:53:59 pm
I love modern music but what do you find annoying?
The human voice.

I am intrigued as well.  Why the human voice? Strictly speaking it is nothing to do with modern composers.
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