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Assorted items / General musical discussion / Re: Your Dream Concerts
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on: August 31, 2013, 06:19:30 pm
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British Night
Too many dream concerts to think of under this heading but here's one:
Bliss: Meditations on a theme of John Blow Moeran: Violin Concerto Simpson: Symphony No 9
Scandinavian Night
Holmboe: Symphony No 8 Sinding: Violin Concerto Aho: Symphonic Dances Rautavaara: Symphony No 3
American Night Again so many I can think of but here's an example
Harris:Symphony No 7 Piston: Violin Concerto No 1 Hanson: Elegy for Serge Koussevitsky Diamond: Symphony No 3
That's three for starters!
I'll be there for all of these!
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Assorted items / General musical discussion / Re: Bax Symphonic Cycles
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on: August 31, 2013, 10:57:02 am
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Largely in agreement with box set order of preference.
Particular recordings which stand out for me.
No 1: Thomson, Fredman No 2: Myer Fredman, Thomson, Goossens No 3: Downes (unbelievably never issued on CD) No 4: Thomson and earlier Handley recording which has great atmosphere. No 5: Leppard - by a long way my favourite version. No 6: Lloyd-Jones, Del Mar No 7: Leppard
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Assorted items / Commercial recordings (vintage, new and forthcoming) / Re: You Tube and New Recordings/Record Companies
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on: August 31, 2013, 12:22:47 am
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If I hear anything I like on You Tube (Lajtha Symphony No 2 for example) and it is available on CD I will then usually buy the CD. I'd like to say that this is for ethical reasons, but it is more connected with the Obsessive Compulsive characteristics of my CD purchasing habits - but I do like to have the booklet notes etc.
Off-topic, I know, but what are your impressions of Lajtha's music, Jeffrey? I enthused about his music quite a bit in another thread. :) The one that I really like is No 2 Kyle, although I have one or two others on Marco Polo but I need to listen to them again before commenting further as I am not sufficiently familiar with them.
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Assorted items / Individual composers / Re: Robert Simpson?
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on: August 30, 2013, 05:24:38 pm
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Another comment I feel I must add: the Boult performance of Symphony no. 1 (available on EMI coupled with symphonies by Fricker and Orr) is absolutely unmissable, thrilling music-making that blows Handley's performance out of the water. If only Boult had recorded more Simpson.....
Oh yes, No 1 is my favourite Simpson symphony and that EMI CD is unmissable as Kyle suggests. The Orr was a great discovery for me (reminding me of Chavez) and the last part of the Fricker Symphony 2 is very exciting - a great disc. My other Simpson recommendation is Symphony No 3 (Horenstein/Handley). Must listen to No 9 again.
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Assorted items / Commercial recordings (vintage, new and forthcoming) / Re: A dream come true! Milford's Violin Concerto from Em...
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on: August 30, 2013, 05:12:57 pm
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I shall be very keen to hear the Milford Symphony if that is possible. If it is released on cd one day in the future I shall certainly buy it.
....but, I do have to say, that when I read the word "reconstruction" there is something in me which needs to point out that there are a lot of symphonies out there(many of which are by composers also admired by Vaughan Williams ;D) which do NOT need reconstruction, their scores are not "a mess", but are being ignored by the record companies.
We have had reconstructions of the second Moeran symphony, the Cyril Scott early Piano and Cello concertos, now the early Bax symphony. Some(maybe all?) of this work is worthwhile but......
It does feel like one of those announcements you hear of remakes of classic Hollywood movies! ??? :( Yesterday,I had a listen to that wonderful Chandos cd of symphonies by Bainton & Clifford. Marvellous stuff! The Bainton Second is a bit like a Bax symphony with a bit of Moeran thrown into the mix. I paricularly love that majestic,'stamping' theme which pounds in now & again. The Clifford Symphony 1940 is exhilarating. It just sweeps you along! (And the short Gough piece is not bad,either!) The booklet includes a poignant note by Hugh Clifford's daughter Sue Hawkes,describing how it had been her brothers great wish to have their fathers music,and particularly the symphony,recorded. Sadly,he died before that happened! My point is,these were two composers who,unlike Bax or Moeran,for example,were completely forgotten,and who composed concert music of quality;not a note of which,as far as I am aware,had ever been recorded commercially. This is the kind of release that would send me rifling excitedly through the pages of Gramophone to the ad page of a small recording label like Chandos! And this is only one example! Now,when I look through the forthcoming release schedules of cd labels,the cynic in me is asking,what new recording of a reconstruction of a score by a composer whose major works have all been recorded already,awaits me? In fact,it has now got to the stage where the thought of someone unearthing yet another immature,incomplete or sock drawer style cast off by Elgar,VW,Moeran,Bax et al,fills me with dread! Everytime I hear about a premiere recording of a reconstruction or completion (or whatever) I feel like one of those hapless characters in those awful tv soaps,who when presented with a particularly harrowing piece of bad news,bawl," Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!" I even feel an urge to go down on my hands and knees and beg these people not to look.........just in case another incomplete 'nugget' pops up from some long forgotten nook!! :o :( Milford isn't quite in that category,of course;and the Bax Symphony does sound very intriguing.....and moaning aside, it may even be the subject of a pre-order,from yours truly,shock horror!! Having said that,I do shudder to think just how many reconstructions and incomplete scores we have to endure before something by a composer who is completely ignored,like Daniel Jones,Fricker,Wordsworth,Gaze Cooper,perhaps or something from the vast output of Joseph Holbrooke (I was enjoying that lovely 'Aucassin and Nicolette' cd the other night!) finally appears from the recording sessions of one of those small cd labels?! Moaning aside;your announcement is obviously extremely good news for admirers of Robin Milford and I hope the recording of the VC is a great success! Thank you very much for telling us about it,tapiola. And,meanwhile, I'm going to have sort out this keyboard! (There are two more in the back room!!) I thought this would be better. No excuse for my hopeless typing,of course. Blame the tool,eh?!! (I'm much happier with old fashioned pen & paper,to be honest!) I also love that Chandos CD of Clifford's Symphony 1940 and Bainton's Symphony No 2 on. If anything Bainton's Third Symphony on Dutton is even better (although the accompanying 'Oliver Cromwell Symphony' by Rutland Boughton made no impression on me). The composition of Bainton's Third was interrupted by the death of his wife and Bainton could not go on with the work. Eventually a friend gently challenged him to finish the symphony, which I find very moving. As for the Clifford Symphony, those closing bars (written in London during an early bombing raid at the start of the Blitz) where, according to the booklet notes, Clifford shakes a defiant fist at Heaven and at would-be oppressors, is wonderful - a real goose-pimple moment for me!
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Assorted items / Individual composers / Re: Luís de Freitas Branco (1890-1955)
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on: August 27, 2013, 04:25:24 pm
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I know that this thread is about Freitas Branco ;D....but this whole issue about Braga Santos's first four symphonies being derivative ??? I remain to be convinced about how many of the composers who are supposed to have influenced his music Braga Santos HAD actually heard :)
I agree. It wouldn't surprise me if he had heard some Vaughan Williams but by the time of the Third Symphony any such influence had been fully integrated and, anyway, BS has an original style.
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Assorted items / Individual composers / Re: Steve Martland
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on: August 27, 2013, 03:11:35 pm
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Yesterday I heard of the untimely death of Steve Martland (my exact contemporary). He was born in Liverpool, and when John McCabe celebrated his 60th at Philharmonic Hall with an interview and recital, I recall Martland sending a bunch of flowers when he could not attend. Certainly an interesting composer who followed his own path. http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/may/08/steve-martlandI was very sad to hear this news too. I have especially enjoyed 'Dance Works'. It is catchy and engaging music but, unlike some minimalist music, has a soul to it IMHO.
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