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1  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Vyacheslav Ovchinnikov CDs on: February 12, 2019, 10:20:59 pm
An interwiew (only russian sorry)
https://youtu.be/9yS7FPfcr_s
'Blocked by Mosfilm'  Sad
2  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Vyacheslav Ovchinnikov CDs on: February 11, 2019, 11:26:42 pm
Sadly this composer passed away a couple of weeks ago. He wrote the wonderful soviet film of 'War and Peace' (Bondarchuk). Fortunately this is one of the few CDs featuring Ovchinnikov's music. His first two symphonies cry out for a CD release.
3  Little-known music of all eras / Coming broadcasts and listen-later links / Re: Buried Treasure: Symphonies of Janis Ivanovs part 3 on: February 04, 2019, 11:06:23 am
http://www.classicalpodcasts.com/buriedtreasure/buried-treasure-symphonies-of-janis-ivanovs-part-3

Great podcasts of Ivanovs complete symphonies from Classical Podcasts.

Enjoy!!

No.11 is one of the best and, annoyingly, never released on CD.
4  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Lyatoshinsky's 3rd Symphony and Grazhyna on Chandos on: January 30, 2019, 10:53:08 am
I bought the Karabits "album" (3rd Symphony and Grazhyna) on Apple's Itunes, but the files are corrupted - they have no sound content!  Has anyone else had this issue?!

No, but I wouldn't touch Apple's Itunes with the bargepole I keep specially for not touching things with.


Oh, how come?  Is the quality bad?

If I'm going to BUY something, I want as physical CD that I have for ever. Otherwise I'll use a subscription service.
Same here although recently I've taken to downloading symphonies not available on CD and then burning them so that I have a hard copy, as in the case of Shchedrin's great First Symphony conducted by Anosov.
5  About music in general / Individual composers / Re: John Joubert RIP on: January 20, 2019, 09:21:35 pm
Symphony 1 is very impressive.
RIP
6  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Gliere's Symphony 3 'Ilya Murometz' Belgrade Philharmonic. Cond. Gabriel Feltz. on: January 20, 2019, 08:29:37 pm
This is, in my opinion, an exceptional release and my current top choice for this underrated symphony, which amazingly I've seen performed live. The spectacular recording allows so much more orchestral detail than usual to be heard and the intensity of the performance approaches that of Nathan Rakhlin. Altogether a great experience and, along with Lyatoshynsky's 3rd Symphony (Bournemouth SO, Karabits) probably one of my discs of the year, even though we are still in January. I'm not sure how they managed to fit 83 minutes on a single CD.

It's on the 'dreyer gaido' CD label.

Here's a review of the concert by the same forces:

https://bachtrack.com/review-gliere-ilya-muromets-feltz-belgrade-philharmonic-march-2018
7  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Lyatoshinsky's 3rd Symphony and Grazhyna on Chandos on: January 13, 2019, 07:54:03 pm
Thank you, Jeffrey. It has always struck me that the Marco Polo versions, although the recording may be a trifle raw, are full of energy and commitment and the music makes very full impact.


A pleasure Colin. One day it might be worth your hearing the new Karabits for the quality of sound but I don't see why you shouldn't be perfectly happy with those earlier Marco Polo/Naxos releases which were much better recorded than the ones which appeared on Russian Disc.
8  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Lyatoshinsky's 3rd Symphony and Grazhyna on Chandos on: January 12, 2019, 10:03:57 am
IMHO better Lyatoshinsky's Third cd is this:

Meanwhile more Chandos would be welcome.
I listened to both recordings today. The problem with the Gnedash performance IMHO is the shrill recording on Russian Disc. The performance is fine and has a rugged Ukrainian authenticity but I think that I'll be mainly listening to Karabits version, which is brilliantly recorded, has a more interesting coupling and includes the original finale.
Dear Vandermolen
I agree that Russian Disc needs a good remastering and that Grazhyna is a more attractive coupling,but i don't think that "new" Finale is better.However now there is also:
http://klassichaus.us/Lyatoshinsky-Slavonic-Ov-Sym--No--1.php
Best


Thank you Toby E. The third movement of the Karabits was on BBC Radio 3 'Record Review' this morning. I'm not sure that I prefer the original last movement either but was pleased to have the opportunity to hear it. I even like the Mravinsky version of No.3 which gets a bad press. For me the recording quality of the Karabits version is a key factor and I've been playing the CD a lot since obtaining it.
9  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Lyatoshinsky's 3rd Symphony and Grazhyna on Chandos on: January 12, 2019, 10:01:09 am
I have all the symphonies and "Grazhyna" in the Marco Polo set. I would not normally duplicate such repertoire. Should I??
I don't think so Colin, I enjoyed all those recordings and, as you say,  you get Grazhyna as well coupled with Symphony 1.

You need to remember that I am an OCDCD nutter and have to have every recording of works I especially like, such as the Lyatoshynsky symphony. Actually I rather like the recording of symphonies 4 and 5 on CPO  Roll Eyes.
10  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Lyatoshinsky's 3rd Symphony and Grazhyna on Chandos on: January 09, 2019, 05:20:45 pm
IMHO better Lyatoshinsky's Third cd is this:

Meanwhile more Chandos would be welcome.
I listened to both recordings today. The problem with the Gnedash performance IMHO is the shrill recording on Russian Disc. The performance is fine and has a rugged Ukrainian authenticity but I think that I'll be mainly listening to Karabits version, which is brilliantly recorded, has a more interesting coupling and includes the original finale.
11  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Lyatoshinsky's 3rd Symphony and Grazhyna on Chandos on: January 05, 2019, 10:01:14 am
Am thrilled with the new CD of Lyatoshynsky's Third Symphony and Grazhyna. Although early in January I'm sure this will be one of my discs of the year. Furthermore the symphony includes the original last movement before Lyatoshynsky was pressurised into revising it. It has a wonderful 'pealing bells' conclusion. The recording is excellent allowing us to hear far more detail of the orchestration. The inclusion of Grazhyna, which some consider the composer's finest work, is the icing on the cake. A wonderful disc!
12  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Lyatoshinsky's 3rd Symphony and Grazhyna on Chandos on: December 07, 2018, 06:05:57 pm

I agree - I already have pre-ordered it in an obsessive-compulsive frenzy!
 Shocked
13  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Lyatoshinsky's 3rd Symphony and Grazhyna on Chandos on: December 06, 2018, 07:27:05 pm
Here it is!
My first glimpse of the new release, scheduled for 4th January 2019  Smiley
https://www.mdt.co.uk/mykolayovych-lyatoshynsky-boris-bournemouth-symphony-orchestra-kirill-karabits-chandos-sacd-1.html
14  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: (Some) Twentieth Century American Symphonies Not on CD (again!) on: December 02, 2018, 02:01:37 pm
Listening, in considerable astonishment, to Kevin Puts's Second Symphony it occurs to me that if the composer had produced this in the early 60s in an American university music school he would have suffered the same fate as Arnold Rosner. His teachers would have utterly rejected the music as unacceptably over-emotional with a ridiculously old-fashioned approach to an outmoded reliance on beauty of utterance.

How the world has changed that music like this is performed by a music conservatory orchestra under a leading conductor when the music of those who condemned and rejected Rosner is, if not forgotten, no longer the Only acceptable music permitted a hearing!!

....and Puts is chair of the Peabody composition faculty rather than being driven into suburban New York obscurity (like Rosner)

My deepest thanks for bringing it to my attention! This is what participation in a music forum is for!!

Totally agree with you Colin. One of my 'discs of the year'.
15  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Lyatoshinsky's 3rd Symphony and Grazhyna on Chandos on: November 27, 2018, 10:47:57 am
Do we know if this is a single release or part of a cycle???

Single release as far as I know. If it says 'Volume 1' that would be a nice surprise for admirers of Lyatoshinsky.
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