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1  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Upcoming cds of previously unrecorded music on: June 08, 2018, 03:28:46 am
that will be great.... looking forward to it...
2  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: David Diamond Symphony No.6 from Naxos on: June 07, 2018, 06:40:38 pm
Ha yes I was excited when I got the CD in the mail. I hurriedly put it in the player in my den and when No 6 came on my wife thought someone was in the street making a horrible noise. I said no that’s the CD player. So I’ll have to listen with headphones I guess.
Well, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who experiences this kind of thing!

'Must we listen to this noise?' and 'It sounds like World War Three has broken out' are common responses to my musical selection.

Yes... I started listening to his other symphonies last night for reference... I'm thinking this Symphony no 6 is somewhat of an aberration ....  maybe  William Schuman (another New Yorker) may had some influence....
3  Preliminaries / Greetings / Re: Is this excellent forum 'dying' ? on: June 07, 2018, 04:18:08 pm
One thing I like about this forum is that it is totally driven by the contributors.. we don't have a moderator posting topics and then arguing with the members about what is or what should be..  it is somewhat like sending a message out into outer space and getting a response months or weeks later... but that is the beauty of the forum....  enjoy !!
4  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: New website of the Tubin Society on: June 07, 2018, 04:10:37 pm
the location is also known as the Forest Cemetery out on hiway 1 (Tallinn-Narva hiway) towards the Tallinn Botanical Gardens.

Official Notice:
On 5 June, the remains of Eduard Tubin and his wife arrived to Estonia, the composer’s homeland. The remains were buried in the Tallinn Metsakalmistu, where a commemorative ceremony of reburial will take place on 18 June at 1:00 PM.

5  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: New website of the Tubin Society on: June 07, 2018, 04:06:44 pm
The remains were buried in the Tallinn Metsakalmistu , where a ceremony of reburial will take place on 18 June at 1pm in Tallinn.

6  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: New website of the Tubin Society on: June 06, 2018, 07:40:45 pm
Nothing.... no discussion.  The topics were around Eduard Tubin and his re-enternment to Estonia, which actually happened today.
No further information about Lemba.  Sorry.

7  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: David Diamond Symphony No.6 from Naxos on: June 01, 2018, 05:11:57 pm
Ha yes I was excited when I got the CD in the mail. I hurriedly put it in the player in my den and when No 6 came on my wife thought someone was in the street making a horrible noise. I said no that’s the CD player. So I’ll have to listen with headphones I guess.
8  Various / Computers and Programming / Re: The future of music notation software on: May 14, 2018, 12:15:51 am
any ideas on importing the Score from Sibelius or Finale to a program that plays the piece via midi?
9  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: (Some) Twentieth Century American Symphonies Not on CD (again!) on: May 11, 2018, 04:10:11 pm
With the imminent release by Naxos of a cd containing David Diamond's Symphony No.6 I thought that I might revisit one of my lists.

I have excluded Alan Hovhaness (just too many!) and the withdrawn Symphonies Nos. 1 and 2 by Peter Mennin, Vincent Persichetti and William Schuman (although both Mennin's Second and Schuman's Second have been performed). John Harbison's Symphonies Nos. 4, 5 and 6 are available for digital download from the Boston Symphony Orchestra's website.


Paul Creston: Symphony No.6 (1981)

David Diamond: Symphony No.7 (1959), Symphony No.9 (1985), Symphony No.10 (1989-2000) and Symphony No.11 (1989-92)

Vincent Giannini: Symphony No.1 (1950), Symphony No.2 (1955) and Symphony No.5 (1965)

Morton Gould: Symphony No.1 (1943) and Symphony No.6 (1983)

Roy Harris: Symphony No.10 (1965), Symphony No.12 (1968-69) and Symphony No.13 (1975-76)

George Rochberg: Symphony No.3 (1966-69), Symphony No.4 (1976) and Symphony No.6 (1986-87)

Christopher Rouse: Symphony No.5 (2016)

Ellen Taaffe Zwilich: Symphony No.5 (2008)

Fortunately almost all of these symphonies can be heard in off-air recordings although the sound quality of some leave a lot to be desired. In fact the only symphonies listed above which cannot be accessed in this way are Diamond's 11th, Giannini's 1st and the recent Christopher Rouse 5th which was premiered by the Dallas Symphony Orchestra in February 2017 and may therefore be around in someone's possession?  I would certainly like to see the missing Creston, Diamond, Rochberg and Zwilich on cd (the three Roy Harris are perhaps best ignored Embarrassed)

Yes I am really looking forward to listening to the David Diamond release from Naxos.... I wonder if university orchestras are the only way we may hear unsung compositions... then I got out my Howard Hanson recordings and there was the  Eastman School of Music-Rochester Orchestra.
10  Little-known music of all eras / Downloads discussion / Re: Belarusian Music on: May 07, 2018, 01:23:12 am
CAUTION: Concerning the files uploaded by "dhibbard" on May 14, 2013, of Lev Abeliovich's Symphony No. 2 (1964) and Genrikh Vagner's Suite for Symphony Orchestra (1957), the last movement of the symphony is missing in the Symphony file, and it appears at the beginning of the file entitled Vagner's Suite for orchestra, before the actual Suite, which is in four parts and consitutes the remaining 18 minutes of the file. In other words, the last movement of Abeliovich's symphony constitues the first 8 minutes of the Suite file, such as uploaded.
By the way, the movements of Abeliovich's second symphony are : 1. Andantino - Allegro ; 2. Allegro ; 3. Adagio ; 4. Vivace
I take the opportunity to thank "dhibbard" for all his precious uploads of Belarusian music...

Thank you for your kind words.   I know that I probably didn't man the recorder as well as I should have and let the next piece get picked up by the recording. I still have the LPs in my library and perhaps later this year,  I can go back and recreate the Mediafire files.  I was wanting to get those up into Mediafire since I had a block of time off from work.   I still pay the quarterly fee to keep the Mediafire files active and plan on that for several years.   I think its important to put these files out there for interested people to listen to these rare recordings.   I've even had some Music Phd studenst thank me to the uploads as they can't be found.    Thanks again for your note. 
11  Little-known music of all eras / Wish lists and requests / APRELEVSKY ZAVOD on: May 04, 2018, 06:23:44 pm
Does anyone know where I can find a listing of LPs issued in the USSR  by  APRELEVSKY ZAVOD?    I'm looking for those issued from 1951-1960.
Several were issued on 33LP  with the Soldier on Horse red label.

12  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / INA BOYLE (1889-1967): Symphony No. 1 “Glencree” (In the Wicklow Hills) on: May 01, 2018, 06:57:51 am
New for May 2018:

INA BOYLE (1889-1967): Symphony No. 1 “Glencree” (In the Wicklow Hills), Violin Concerto, Overture for Orchestra, A Sea Poem, Psalm for Cello and Orchestra, Colin Clout (A Pastoral after Spenser’s “The Shepheard’s Calender”), Wildgeese for Small Orchestra

Label: Dutton Epoch
Format: SACD hybrid

Boyle was Irish and lived her entire life in the family home in Enniskerry, Co. Wicklow. She took composition lessons from two English musicians resident for a time in Dublin but her most important teacher and frien was Vaughan Williams whom she visited with works in prgoress and completed scores, whenever she could, from 1923-37. All but three of these seven works come from that period, so VW’s voice is ever present in mood and orchestral color and, in her use of low brass, Bax may spring to mind. The two largest pieces are the 21-minute symphony whose three movements - On Lacken Hill, Nightwinds in the Valley and Above Lough Bray - could work as independent tone-poems of landscape while the gently melancholic and nostalgic concerto of 17 minutes is a response to the death of Boyle’s mother in 1932. Much to savor for collectors of VW and of conservative British music. Benjamin Baker (violin), Nadège Rochat (cello), BBC Concert Orchestra; Ronald Corp

13  Little-known music of all eras / Notice of interesting concerts around the world / Re: Sibelius Kullervo, Glasgow 17 May on: April 30, 2018, 05:15:02 am
Yes indeed!!
14  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Ferdinand Ries (1784-1838) Piano Concerto No 8 and 9 Hyperion RPC on: April 29, 2018, 04:38:09 am
Another installment of the Hyperion RPC:
Digital booklet (PDF)
The Romantic Piano Concerto
Ferdinand Ries (1784-1838)
Piano Concertos Nos 8 & 9

Piers Lane (piano), The Orchestra Now, Leon Botstein (conductor)
‘Virtuosity is not an outgrowth but an indispensable element of music’, proclaimed Franz Liszt, with vested interest. By the time Liszt took Europe by storm in the 1830s, the cult of instrumental virtuosity was in full spate, fuelled by the demonically inspired (so it was thought) feats of Paganini, and a new breed of composer-pianists led by Hummel, the Irishman John Field, the Frenchman Frédéric Kalkbrenner and the Bohemian-born Ignaz Moscheles. To this glittering roster we can add the name of the Rhinelander Ferdinand Ries, ‘justly celebrated as one of the finest piano-performers of the present day’, as the London Harmonicon described him at the height of his career in the early 1820s—and the competition in London was intense. ‘His hand is powerful, and his execution is certain—often surprising. But his playing is distinguished from that of all others by its romantic wildness …’

‘Romantic wildness’ was also an oft-remarked feature of the playing of Ries’s most famous teacher, Ludwig van Beethoven. In his native Bonn Beethoven had been taught violin by Ries’s father, Franz Anton, a violinist in the Elector Maximilian’s orchestra. After studying violin and piano with his father, and a brief sojourn as a music copyist in Munich, the sixteen-year-old Ferdinand moved to Vienna in 1801 where, in a nice symmetry, he became Beethoven’s piano pupil. (The only pupils he formally acknowledged after 1800 were Ries and the Archduke Rudolph.) For composition lessons Beethoven sent the teenaged prodigy to his own former teacher, the venerable master of counterpoint Johann Georg Albrechtsberger. In payment for his lessons, Ries acted as Beethoven’s part-time copyist and secretary; and most of his (probably heightened) later reminiscences about the composer—not least the story of Beethoven furiously destroying the title page of the ‘Eroica’ after Napoleon had proclaimed himself Emperor—date from this period.

By his late teens Ries had evidently acquired a formidable technique. In August 1804 he made his debut as Beethoven’s pupil, playing his teacher’s C minor concerto (No 3) in Vienna’s Augarten. The story goes that Beethoven had advised him to omit a particularly tricky passage in one of Ries’s own cadenzas. The pupil ignored the master’s advice and brought off the passage triumphantly, to Beethoven’s delight. Yet while reviews of the concert were enthusiastic, it was several years before Ries’s career as a composer-virtuoso took off. In September 1805 Ries, as a citizen of Bonn, was called up for conscription into the French army which was then occupying the Rhineland. Summoned from Vienna to Koblenz, he was declared unfit for military service (childhood smallpox had left him blind in one eye), and returned to Bonn.

After a year in his native city, where he composed the first of his eight piano concertos and two sonatas dedicated to Beethoven, Ries tried his hand in Paris, then returned to Vienna for a year, helping Beethoven with the logistics of his gargantuan benefit concert in December 1808. In July 1809 he again departed for Bonn, this time to evade the threat of conscription into the Austrian military at a time of national crisis. Over the next few years he composed prolifically and established his reputation as a touring virtuoso in northern Europe, playing in Kassel, Hamburg, Copenhagen, Stockholm and St Petersburg. In 1812 Ries’s plans were yet again disrupted by Napoleon; and instead of further concerts in Russia, he turned west, travelling via Stockholm to London, where he arrived in April 1813. London would be his home for the next eleven years. Here he married Harriet Mangean (1796-1863), described as ‘an English lady of great merit and possessing many personal charms’, and became a favourite at the Philharmonic Concerts, where he performed many of his compositions for his own instrument. In another link with his past, one of the founders of the Philharmonic Concerts was Johann Peter Salomon, likewise a native of Bonn, who had once played alongside Ries’s father in the Elector’s orchestra, and later lured Haydn to London.

more info here:
15  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Obscure Soviet Symphonies... on: April 22, 2018, 01:14:27 am
First, I also like Steinberg's Symphony No. 4 very much, highly enjoyable music. It's a work full of elan, vigour and memorable tunes, pure delight. I knew it as a broadcast recording for quite some years and was therefore very happy about this (still rather new) Dutton disc.

Now, as for the problems with the broadcast recording Maris speaks of, here is the story: this symphony was broadcasted by the BBC in the mid-1990s. A friend of mine (his name is Terry – some of the members here know him) listened to it and already found the first few minutes so exciting that he decided to record the symphony. However, as a consequence, in his recording – which is the one circulating online in various sources – the very beginning of the symphony is missing. Basically it's the slow introduction of the first movement which he didn't record. Anyway, this symphony lead him into collecting Soviet symphonies, and he now has one of the largest collections of Melodiya LPs I am aware of.

Holger, yes I used to correspond with Terry (think he was a professor of Music somewhere in the UK) and he had a huge collection of not only Melodiya LPs but radio broadcasts of Russian and Soviet composers that I've yet to see any commercial recordings available.  He had sent me a listing of recent acquisitions back in 2000 that had me spinning in my chair. They were all radio broadcasts...I never heard from him after about 2005... I'll see if I can reach out to him.

I emailed Terry and the message came back "invalid email address" 
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