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16  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Another unknown British symphonist on: May 14, 2019, 08:49:18 pm
Andrew J Baker - Stafford-based composer with at least 20 symphonies to his name. I know about him because my sister met him. Some of his work is on Soundcloud in synthetic performances.
17  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Unrecorded British Symphonies: an update on: May 14, 2019, 08:27:13 pm
Wilfred Josephs is missing from the list. Twelve symphonies, only one recorded.
18  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Heinrich Sutermeister Orchestral Works from Toccata on: May 14, 2019, 07:35:48 pm
I do think spoken words in a piece of music are a grave mistake. It is natural (for evolutionary reasons even) to pay more attention to speech than music, so when the speaker is speaking, you don't really hear the music, and when the speaker is not speaking, you are posed for the next bit of speech.
19  Little-known music of all eras / Downloads discussion / Re: Swiss Music on: May 13, 2019, 10:10:24 pm
Thanks to mjkFendrich for the Sutermeister piano concertos. Much deserving of a modern recording!
20  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Mario Pilati on: May 13, 2019, 10:04:13 pm
I was browsing Spotify the other day, and came across a CD of the music of Mario Pilati, starting with the Concerto for Orchestra. It didn't mean much to me until I played it and it was then VERY familiar. Of course, I have the CD, and had just forgotten about it; such are the perils of age. I remember now looking up the composer's life history after discovering him for the first time.

My mother was fond of the music of Alan Rawsthorne, and particularly praised the 2nd piano concerto. She would point with approval to how the composer gets straight on with the job, opening the work with the first subject, without any messing around with portentous introductions. Pilati's Concerto for Orchestra is like that - the work opens at once with the first subject, which is a huge tune that can really stick in your mind. How audiences would love it if it could ever be got into the concert hall! It's quite surprising it hasn't been nicked to front a TV series. (Or maybe it has - I wouldn't know!)
21  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Unrecorded British Symphonies: an update on: May 13, 2019, 09:53:55 pm
Bourgeois's later symphonies should not be ignored. They may not be "great", but they are certainly enjoyable listening, and would be great for an amateur orchestra looking for something original to play. I recommend #90 and #101 as starting points.
22  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Whatever happened to Fritz Brun? on: May 13, 2019, 09:41:00 pm
Coming back to my opinion on some reviwers: I forgot to mention those who, because just they don't like a piece, they just find it bad. This is also unfair.

This is a pet hate of mine. Just because you like something doesn't make it good, and just because you dislike something doesn't make it bad. I think most critics are not actually capable of judging the quality of a work, and just go by personal taste. Plus, of course, the assumption that a composer outside the standard canon must be bad, or he wouldn't be neglected. Whereas anyone famous must be good. It's the same in the visual arts, and its refreshing when you see an art critic lay into, say, Damien Hirst. I have a theory that Picasso, in his late years, actually tried to produce bad drawings to dare art critics to call him out - which none would dare do, of course.
23  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Joseph Holbrooke from CPO on: May 13, 2019, 09:28:31 pm
I have to say I find Holbrooke #4 rather disappointing. I have no problem with it being called a symphony, but he overworks the Schubert scherzo and doesn't really add anything much.
24  About music in general / The listener / My New Year's Resolution ... on: March 03, 2019, 09:27:15 pm
... was to try and make some inroads into the mass of CDs I have bought but never played. Difficult, given my penchant for buying large "complete" box sets. So I am working my way slowly through the complete Liszt piano music and all the Haydn symphonies, while dipping into the complete Mozart edition!
25  About music in general / The listener / Re: "Thoughts on Evaluating Unfamiliar Music" on: March 03, 2019, 09:24:23 pm

I would make two observations:

1) One should be able to say of a piece of music, "This is very good but I don't like it", and conversely, "I love this, but it's dreadful".

2) There is a real difficulty in evaluating unfamiliar music is distinguishing between a bad composition and a bad performance. Obviously, none of the critics at the premiere of Rachmaninoff's 1st symphony could do this, and the course of music history might have been different if they could have.
26  About music in general / The listener / Re: Ambience Music on: March 03, 2019, 09:06:13 pm
Brian Eno - yes.
Robert Fripp - never heard of him, I'm afraid.
27  About music in general / Performance and technique / Re: Andre Previn (1929-2019) on: March 03, 2019, 09:04:15 pm
I remember hearing him say that his ambition was to hear every piece of music that was ever composed, and thinking that it was a shame he didn't make it more possible by conducting more non-standard repertoire. Then again, I do recall him conducting the LSO in the first movement of Raff 5.
28  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Conservative West-Germans Composers 1945-1989 on: February 20, 2019, 09:42:40 am
Graunke's violin concerto is available on YouTube:

The first two movements are rather unmemorable, but the jaunty finale is worth hearing.
29  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Conservative West-Germans Composers 1945-1989 on: February 19, 2019, 05:53:27 pm
Very interesting! He even has his own orchestra, the Symphonie-Orchester Graunke. I checked streaming services but it seems mostly he records operetta and the like on CD. I have never heard of Edition Sedina ("since 1962") and it seems to be his personal company as well ... "We carry all compositions of the famous composer and conductor KURT GRAUNKE either on CD or as notes. You can also get the complete notes for a symphony orchestra of every composition by Kurt Graunke on request". I think "famous" is a slight exaggeration.

30  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: February 19, 2019, 05:38:51 pm
Wow! Shocked The things a drop of lager can do to the brain! Connecting Sacheverell Coke with Reger?!!

ROGER Sacheverell Coke

There. not so hard!
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