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1  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Dutton? on: April 17, 2018, 06:34:07 pm
Room for the extra track then - just.
2  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Dutton? on: April 16, 2018, 11:03:20 pm
I see where you are coming from but the observation is not quite accurate in this case. I think it is much more to do with some people getting a "reward" for having done nothing. The absence, if you like, of a level playing field. In effect, why should someone be rewarded for having an SACD player? St Matthew records Christ as saying: "For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not, even that which he hath shall be taken away." But I've never really understood what our Lord meant. Sounds jolly unfair to me.  Undecided
3  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Dutton? on: April 16, 2018, 09:16:13 pm
Here you are, Dundonnell. Oliver at Dutton, first - responding to my initial complaint; then my response to that, to which I have not yet received an answer.


Thank you for your e-mail. However, the bonus track (no. 19) on the Ina Boyle disc is clearly billed as an "SACD bonus track," which indicates that that is exactly what it is - a bonus track that will play only on SACD (as opposed to standard) CD players.

The maximum running time of a standard (PCM) CD is 79m 57, whereas on an SACD it's up to 110 minutes - hence the inclusion in this case of the extra track on the SACD layer, which otherwise wouldn't have appeared had this been a standard PCM CD.

While we very much appreciate your support of and interest in our releases, we had hoped that you would have welcomed the inclusion of additional SACD material (at no extra cost) rather than bemoaning the fact that it can't be played on a standard CD player, despite its "SACD bonus track" billing.

Kind regards,

Vocalion Ltd/Dutton Epoch Retail & Export Team

Dear Oliver,

Thank you for your response. You suggest that I should be grateful for the, for me, unplayable bonus track and not "bemoan" its inclusion. Relatively few listeners have SACD players - none of my acquaintance - so there is no advantage to us at all in having a track which we can't play! Nor in knowing that there is an additional work by this interesting and neglected composer on the CD which we can't hear! It is of no consequence that it is "at no extra cost" since it is something I cannot enjoy, without purchasing an SACD player, so I wouldn't expect to be charged for it.

Had you provided a link from which the track could have been downloaded in, say, MP3 format, that would, indeed, have been a valuable bonus, for which I would have been extremely grateful.

Your response does nothing to mitigate my pique, and I sincerely hope Dutton will discontinue this practice in future - unless, as I suggest above, a link to an MP3 download is provided for those of us who cannot play SACD tracks.

Yours sorrowfully,

Gareth Vaughan

I know Lewis Foreman slightly - and he knows me as someone who has programmed works by unsung British composers in concerts I have organised. Please give him my best wishes.
4  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Dutton? on: April 15, 2018, 05:32:52 pm
Same for me, I'm afraid. I'm rather cross about it and have written to Dutton to say I think it is a rotten practice - a bit of a cheat really. Why should this one track be available only to people with SACD players (or other means of playing SACD tracks? Maybe we should all write so they can appreciate what a poor marketing practice this is. I was looking forward to hearing "Colin Clout".
5  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Dutton? on: April 07, 2018, 11:51:09 am
I also wish that Dutton would record Ruth Gipps's wonderful 4th Symphony.

Amen to that. Cameo Classics were considering it at one time, but it didn't happen. Cameo seem to have disappeared altogether - and I've lost touch with David Kent Watson.
6  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Ongoing Naxos series of Saint-Saens orchestral cycle on: March 30, 2018, 02:59:56 pm
Other than Samson et Dalila they are uniformly 'unsung', and recordings are sparse or non-existent.

I agree, although Henry VIII was recorded by Chant du Monde in 1991 (I think) and more recently Ediciones Singulares have released excellent recordings of Proserpine and Les Barbares, and I understand Le timbre d'argent may follow. I think there was a 2008 recording of Helene on the Melba label, if memory serves me right - don't know what it is like or if it is still available. So he is not doing too badly - at least of late.
7  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Dutton? on: March 28, 2018, 10:16:16 pm
I am similarly puzzled by the Elgar and, while I shall buy and almost certainly enjoy the Stanford disk, the real treat for me here is Ina Boyle, a very unjustly neglected composer IMHO.
8  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: "Recent" Toccata Releases on: March 21, 2018, 12:21:42 am
Thank you for that clarification. IMHO Lemba's music is extremely good. I would love to hear (and see) more of it. I am trying to interest Hyperion in his piano concerti.
9  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: "Recent" Toccata Releases on: March 20, 2018, 08:12:24 pm
Nothing on the release of the additional Lemba CD of orchestral works.   

I'm sorry to keep on about this, but WHAT 2nd Lemba CD? - And WHAT FIRST Lemba CD, come to that?
10  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Lyrita? on: March 15, 2018, 06:34:53 pm
I know that the Holbrooke pieces included in the Cameo/Lyrita cds did not entirely meet with Gareth Vaughan's wholehearted endorsement but I am sure that I can leave it to him to comment further if he wishes

It's only the Variations on "The Girl I Left Behind Me" with which I was less than satisfied. Neither conductor nor orchestra understood the humour - as a result it is rather a "lumpen" performance and some of the solos are not pointed enough. The Malta orchestra, by contrast, played the Pantomime Suite rather well. Marius Stravinsky and the Karelians are fine in the Blower Symphony and Dorothy Howell's "Lamia". Valentina Seferinova is excellent in the Howell's piano concerto and all the Malta soloists are very good indeed.
11  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: "Recent" Toccata Releases on: February 28, 2018, 02:06:13 pm
I don't understand the mention of a second Lemba disk on Toccata. I can't find the composer listed at all on the Toccata website. Have I misunderstood, or am I missing something?
12  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Lyrita? on: February 16, 2018, 09:38:24 pm
I agree. A bit disappointing.
13  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Lyrita? on: February 16, 2018, 12:03:19 am
I don't know why anyone bothers to reply to Expi's grumpy comments. I'm sure he only does it to annoy!!!
14  Little-known music of all eras / Notice of interesting concerts around the world / Roger Sacheverell Coke on: February 07, 2018, 09:01:58 am
Simon Callaghan (piano), Jamie Campbell (violin) and Karel Bredenhorst (cello) will perform Coke's Elegiac Trio at a chamber concert on Tuesday 12th June commencing at 7.00pm in St Paul's Church, Knightsbridge, London, UK. The other works in the concert are Rachmaninov's 1st "Elegiac" Trio and Schubert's E flat piano trio. Tickets available from St Paul's, Knightsbridge.
15  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Ongoing CPO projects. on: February 01, 2018, 09:24:25 pm
I am more bemused as to why having an erudite booklet text would be a reason NOT to buy the CDs, but then I know Expi has a very contrary mindset  Huh
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