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1  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Second-Tier English Symphonies on: March 18, 2019, 11:06:37 pm
I shall lock this thread-at least temporarily-primarily because the discussion has become markedly over-heated and abusive. I would urge all members to recall the need to avoid direct abuse and rudeness!
2  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Second-Tier English Symphonies on: March 14, 2019, 06:11:01 pm
Although I am at an airport I feel that I should now respond.

There is a fine line between candour or robust discussion and rudeness.
I am sure that Greg K. did not intend his remarks to be taken as "rude". However if a member's post is described as "incoherent" it is understandable that the member perceives such a description as rudeness.
Perception and reception have to be taken into account when anyone speaks to or writes about someone else. Calyptorhynchus is entitled to express his perception. If a post of mine was described as "incoherent" I would be offended.
3  About music in general / Performance and technique / Re: Andre Previn (1929-2019) on: March 01, 2019, 01:26:04 pm
Yes, Toby it was against our "rules" to post the link to Andre Previn's recording of the RVW Pastoral Symphony. It is still available on cd and we would encourage those interested to purchase the cd. It is-as you correctly say-a marvellous performance of an under-rated work.
4  Little-known music of all eras / Downloads discussion / Re: British and Irish Music on: February 03, 2019, 12:39:05 am
It is probably worth reminding members that in order to locate a particular piece of British music uploaded and made available thereby for downloading the first port of call is the Catalogue compiled over several years by Albion (John). This can be located by going to Page 1 of the British and Irish Music section of "Downloads by Nationality" and clicking on the Mediafire link. That opens up an alphabetically organised series of sub-folders containing links to each piece of music.

Albion was not able to visit the forum for much of 2018 but I know that he has already copied many if not all works uploaded last year and made these separately available from the Catalogue.

Rather than searching through past posts the Catalogue should be consulted first.

It is also worth remembering that this is the finest, most comprehensive collection of British music available for free download in existence anywhere!! It remains an incredible testimony to the generosity of those members who uploaded (and continue to upload) their private collections for the benefit and enjoyment of others! The catalogue we owe to Albion and the vast amount of work he put/puts in to create the collection.
5  Little-known music of all eras / Notice of interesting concerts around the world / Re: Concerto dedicated to London on: January 27, 2019, 12:07:31 am
I am quite happy transliterating Cyrillic (it's not difficult!) and see no reason why such posts should be discouraged.  The moderators should not let their own limitations determine what is posted!

"The moderators should not let their own limitations determine what is posted!"

Do you appreciate how rude that observation sounds?

Speaking personally (as Dundonnell) I acknowledge that I cannot read Cyrillic. I do not regard that as a "limitation". I am as capable as anybody else in translating it into English.

However, this is an English language website. It is therefore the responsibility of the original poster to provide a translation. Members should not be required to do this for themselves if they cannot read the language in the initial post.

It is my responsibility as a moderator to try to assist the membership as a whole. What I am asking is not unreasonable.

To phrase your comment as you did is at best unfortunate and at worst offensive.
6  Little-known music of all eras / Notice of interesting concerts around the world / Re: Concerto dedicated to London on: January 26, 2019, 01:57:06 am
As was pointed out in a previous thread this sort of notice is incomprehensible to the overwhelming majority of members who cannot read Russian. They are therefore extremely frustrating!!

I must ask you please to either provide a translation accompanying the notice or cease posting such notices.
7  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Prokofiev - early unknown symphony on: January 17, 2019, 03:06:29 pm
I very much hope that members will have recognised by now that I have tried to avoid intervention in discussion in threads.

Can I simply and respectfully suggest that sticking-as far as is possible-to discusion of music is to be preferred to political debate.
8  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Immanent closure on: January 17, 2019, 03:00:39 pm

I was previously of a mind to delete or at least lock this thread but decided to give members the opportunity to make their own minds up about the "nature" of the threat contained in the initial post. I have now deleted the link provided to the site mentioned in the initial post. I see no reason to advertise a site set up in direct opposition to this one.
9  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Immanent closure on: January 17, 2019, 02:55:08 pm
Looks as though we are slowly descending into a new dark age fueled by mindless drugged leftist technocrats..

I do not know to what or to whom this comment refers but the use of words like "drugged" and "leftist" is inappropriate on this forum.

We all have our own musical tastes and preferences and we air these with due respect to others. We-no doubt-also have different "political perspectives" but this is not the place to express emotive statements which can only confuse and offend.

10  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Immanent closure on: January 15, 2019, 11:05:34 am
The member who opened this thread and who was, if I recall correctly, previously identified by Neil McGowan as a "sockpuppet" identity of the former administrator who went by the name of "Sydney Grew" has lain low for a few months since the miserably sad furore on the forum back in October.

He/she/they is/are perfectly entitled to start a new forum elsewhere.

He/she/they is/are not entitled to come back here making such wild and outrageous threats repeating the old calumnies.

"Gerard"'s Membership of this forum has therefore been terminated with immediate effect.
11  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Your Discovery of the Year on: December 30, 2018, 04:58:11 am
I have only just realised that you have posted a link to the actual Dutton recording of the Damase symphony, Kyle.

Please remove it!! We went through the mill with this issue a few months back (as you may not realise!). The Dutton recording can be purchased.....and should be purchased. We cannot prevent those interested in sampling it from going to You Tube but we do not post such entire recordings on here.

My apologies Colin! I did not realize that was a policy here. I will remove it right away and replace it with an Amazon link instead. Smiley

Your co-operation is warmly appreciated! If you take a look at the You Tube performances section of the forum you will find the threads and posts which relate to this issue and the lengthy discussion we had here at the time. I very much doubt that anyone will wish to re-open that discussion (I certainly don't!) but what finally emerged was a "firm line" (yes, I think we could call it a "policy") to which we have adhered since then.

Don't apologise, Kyle. There is no need. In some ways you can count yourself fortunate to have been "on holiday" (from the forum, I mean obviously Smiley) and did not have to live through the difficult times we had Roll Eyes
12  Preliminaries / Greetings / Happy Christmas/Holiday Season to All Members on: December 21, 2018, 03:03:42 pm
This thread is normally used by new members introducing themselves but it seems appropriate to use it to send Greetings to All Members.

We would imagine that many members will have other things on their minds and other commitments over the holiday season and may not visit the Forum very often or at all.

Before then therefore we would wish to extend to All Members our Very Best Wishes for a Happy and stress-free time over the period.

The Forum went through a rather difficult and trying phase a couple of months ago. The support and encouragement of members was and is deeply appreciated by the current Administration. Without that support it would have been more difficult to weather the storm.

This remains YOUR forum and your participation or simply your interest is essential to its state of health.

Many Thanks!!
13  Preliminaries / What this forum offers you / Forum Rules on: December 21, 2018, 01:00:20 am

"Also please note that new members are expected to make at least three posts in their first two weeks, and the membership of people who have contributed nothing for six months will be automatically cancelled".

We have been meaning to address this for some time. The quote comes from the set of basic Forum Rules set out some years ago by the previous Administration.

As far as we are aware the quoted rule was never enforced. Nor, in our submission, should it ever have been enforced. Members are perfectly entitled to read the contributions of others without feeling any requirement to post anything of their own-for whatever reason. Obviously we would hope that as many members as possible would contribute and we are always grateful to those who do........but it is not an obligation.
14  Little-known music of all eras / Downloads discussion / Re: British and Irish Music on: December 12, 2018, 12:37:40 pm
It is only prudent to point out to members that the British and Irish Music Archive on this site has been effectively "frozen in time" now for almost a year. The Archive was assembled-with enormous effort-by Albion (John). He also compiled the huge catalogue. It represents, quite probably, the most impressive and comprehensive collection of British music in existence and available to members of this forum to download for their personal enjoyment.

For whatever reason Albion has not been "on the forum" since February. He has not been able to respond to pms or emails. What this means is that the Archive has not been updated since then. More seriously it means that there may be the possibility that it could simply disappear since the vast number of pieces are stored on Albion's Mediafire account. If that was closed-again for whatever reason then the contents would no longer be available for download.

All would certainly NOT be lost! First of all, the individual compositions were uploaded originally by members and the overwhelming majority are still available from them on their own Mediafire or other similar uploading sites. Secondly, I downloaded most of the music to my own hard drive (as have others, including Latvian!). Most could therefore be restored, reuploaded for new members or others who had perhaps either lost their copies or developed a new interest in a particular work.

And although the catalogue is "frozen" there have been few new uploads over the past year and those that have been provided by members can be found on the last page of the Downloads thread.

There is therefore no need for serious alarm.....which is of course not to say that we do not regret and are concerned about Albion's absence from the forum!

15  Little-known music of all eras / Youtube performances / Re: Links to videos of compositions by little-known composers on: November 14, 2018, 11:53:04 am
Members had to endure weeks of this nonsense. For the last month the forum has returned to the pattern of posting and to the tenor of posts to which members were accustomed prior to that.

What we cannot permit is the re-opening of an exchange which it would be grossly inaccurate to describe as discussion or debate.  The assertions regarding "stolen or pirate passwords", "dismissed administrators", "unsuitability", "warnings from the owners of Unsung Composers" are as offensive as they are manifestly untrue.

The current administrators have every reason to believe that they continue to retain the confidence and support of the overwhelming majority, if not all, of the membership. Many members have indicated this either publicly or by private message.

We have no intention of responding further to irrational and outrageous allegations. We responded in very considerable detail and as calmly as was possible at the time the allegations were first made.

Neil McGowan suggested several weeks ago that "Henrietta Pedal" was a "sockpuppet" for the former administrator. The fact that a member with this name had not posted here since October 2017 would tend to indicate that Neil may well be correct.

In the circumstances and for obvious reasons immediate and decisive action is being taken in an attempt to cut this off at source.
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