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1  Preliminaries / Greetings / Re: Hello, music fellows! on: June 11, 2019, 01:12:25 am
A very warm welcome to you! Your list of favourite composers is extensive and impressive! Please do feel able to contribute to discussion. We would all welcome hearing your views.
2  Little-known music of all eras / Books about composers and their music / Re: Surprised by Beauty on: June 11, 2019, 12:42:29 am
I am very sorry that immediately prior to and during my recent week-long enforced absence from the forum there have been some "heated exchanges". I also accept my own responsibility for contributing in my personal capacity to some of that "heat".

This forum has a relatively small membership. The percentage of that membership which contributes through posts is obviously very much smaller. We depend on those contributions, whether regular or occasional, for the survival of the forum. Otherwise, to put it bluntly, it will die.

The duties of Administration have largely devolved on one person over the last few months. Latvian has not been able to visit the forum at all over the past month- for entirely understandable personal reasons relating to his worklife!

It is becoming very evident to me that trying to maintain a dual role here as both an "impartial moderator" and as a member with his own views and perspectives is increasingly difficult.

However, I am willing to continue to do what I can to assist in sustaining a forum which I value, appreciate and enjoy.

It would be helpful if we all-and I DO include myself in this-attempt to remember that calm, good manners, an appreciation of the feelings of other members should underpin our discourse. If members, and again I include myself, make remarks about others which are, or are perceived to be, rude or offensive then the outcomes are inevitable. I am asked to ban members. Members simply stop posting at all. Members voluntarily leave.

I could adopt a draconian attitude and start throwing members out. I have tried to avoid this unless absolutely necessary (the number is less than the fingers of one hand!). I do NOT want to become such an administrator. Indeed I would not be such an administrator.

Can I therefore plead for a greater measure of calm and for a recognition by all of the need for views to be expressed with moderation, tact and good humour?
3  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Rubinstein Piano Concertos #3 and #5 with the ERSO on: May 03, 2019, 01:16:07 pm
Can we correct the title of this thread?  Grin

I have altered the spelling of the original title of the thread and of the subsequent contributions and, by a miracle of technology, this has taken effect in the list of Recent Posts on the Home Page Grin
4  Preliminaries / Greetings / Re: I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaack! on: May 02, 2019, 11:32:12 am
I can understand the argument too, Dave. The point though is that you do have these cds in your collection and Naxos is a rich company issuing lots and lots of cds. The fear is that the small companies, selling only a couple of thousand copies of a cd if they are lucky, will disappear if folk upload to YT and potential purchasers download for free.
Learning that Toccata was about to issue some Sutermeister I looked to see whether there was more on disc. I could have downloaded the Piano Concerto No.2 but I ordered the Swiss cd instead because I happen to think that is the better thing to do.
5  Preliminaries / Greetings / Re: I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaack! on: April 30, 2019, 09:44:41 pm
If by "posting" you mean uploading into the database here for download, I fully agree. I would post links to YT, if that is acceptable. The links are complete versions of commercially available works that are already on YT in fragmentary form. If not, then I simply will participate in discussions of whatever I find here.

I am afraid that the posted link from You Tube is the very thing to which members took exception if that link was to a commercially available cd. The reason for this was that what was being done was to explicitly "advertise" the opportunity to obtain the music at no personal cost.

As I said, we are not naive or stupid. We all know what is going on in the real world. Some of us, and that means the overwhelming majority of those who expressed a view on here last year, are unhappy about the situation.

However, it takes seconds to do a Search on You Tube and find whatever one wishes. If that is what people choose to do then that is entirely up to them. It is a matter of personal choice and should remain so.

If members decide to ditch our current policy then the situation will change Smiley
6  Preliminaries / Greetings / Re: I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaack! on: April 30, 2019, 08:42:03 pm
Since you appear not to have been active on this Forum for some time you will probably not be aware that we had a lengthy "episode" last Autumn. This was initiated by the former Administrator of this site re-posting You Tube videos of commercially available cds.

I have no great burning desire to rehash the arguments used at that time. Members were sickened by the ugly "debate" between the gentleman in question and those who he claimed had "usurped" his position that ensued.

The former Administrator is no longer-as far as we can tell-a member of this site.

The agreed consensus of opinion amongst members who contributed at that time, either publicly or through private messages, was:

What goes on at You Tube is the business of You Tube and those who use it either to post or simply to listen. We are not naive. We all know that people download music from You Tube. I have done so.

The issue is the 'morality' of downloading, for free, music issued by record companies and the financial impact of that practice on the future financial viability, particularly of the small labels which issue comparatively obscure music.

Different people may well have a variety of views on the subject and may indeed have their own differing, private practices. We do not exclude from our membership those who choose to use You Tube in any way which suits them. Nor do we issue ultimata as a regular matter of course!

What we DID agree on was our policy on THIS site. The re-posting of You Tube videos of music from any other sources is absolutely fine. What is not acceptable is the reposting of videos of commercially available cds.
Those who wish to listen to these can do so on You Tube and decide whatever actions to take or not take. That is none of our business. What IS our business is not reposting on here.

You may disagree with this policy-and indeed you are fully entitled to disagree! But it is our policy-as agreed by the membership and NOT one imposed by me or my fellow administrators.

This Forum is NOT my personal property. My role is to try to ensure that the agreed forum "rules" are adhered to-no more, no less.

I hope this explains the position. I very much hope too that you will not "go away" but will remain and contribute as you did a number of years ago to discussions here.
Best Wishes,
7  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Joseph Holbrooke from CPO on: April 19, 2019, 07:29:14 pm
Josef (Joseph) is is one of those "marmite" composers who you either want to to hear more of or simply can't be arsed. These three volumes from CPO have given us a showcase of his orchestral virtuosity; together with the two Dutton discs  (Symphony 4, Cello Concerto, Aucussin and Nicolette, Saxophone Concerto). If I could envisage further recordings of Queen Mab, The Bells and Apollo and the the Seaman this will have given us a comprehensive view of this composer's finest achievements...

Luckily,for me;I love Marmite!! Smiley
By the way! Remember the Marmite thread,here?!! (I seem to remember I was the fool who said he preferred,Vegemite?!! Shocked Grin)

 Huh Roll Eyes

It is the beginning of a holiday weekend so I shall be indulgent.........but really!
8  Little-known music of all eras / Youtube performances / Re: Dimitry Yavtuhovich's "Aivazosvky at Feodosia" on: April 16, 2019, 05:30:26 pm
Any member who posts a new thread has the right to then later lock that same thread.

It would be helpful however if such action was made clear. Otherwise members might naturally conclude that the thread had been locked by the Administration.

Toby locked this was his right to do so. And it is therefore now re-locked.
9  About music in general / Performance and technique / Re: Andre Previn (1929-2019) on: April 13, 2019, 01:03:03 am
From dhibbard:

The conductor, composer and pianist André Previn, who has died aged 89, was not only among the most charismatic performers of his day, but also enjoyed one of the greatest classical-music lives since Berlioz and Liszt – and one that did not grow less eventful with old age. His pedigree was unique: no other Oscar-winning conductor-composer from the Hollywood film studios became equally successful in the strictly classical world of the London Symphony Orchestra – which Previn headed from 1968 to 1979 – while also maintaining a side career as a jazz pianist.

As a composer, his successes were singular in their range: from film scores such as that for the Oscar-nominated Elmer Gantry (1960) to stage musicals for the West End (The Good Companions, 1974) and Broadway (Coco, 1970) that were also hits. Later, he returned to composing after a dormant decade with a succession of song cycles, concertos and two major operas, A Streetcar Named Desire (1998) and Brief Encounter (2009), often in a style reaching back to his pre-second world war training in his native Berlin.

His adult years were divided between the east and west coasts of the US, as well as the UK, where he enjoyed particular celebrity status and received an honorary knighthood in 1996. “Those of you who think that being a conductor is a succession of limousines and mistresses – it isn’t. It’s being some place not long enough to have your laundry done and having to work it out,” Previn said in the Tony Palmer documentary film The Kindness of Strangers (1998). He often headed two orchestras simultaneously in separate continents, but whatever country he was in, he was a highly visible, celebrated presence, often hailed as the new guard of classical music – his humour, accessibility and articulate observational sense demystified his profession – even though his manner of music-making was mainstream, even conservative. Though critics considered Previn a middleweight talent during his London Symphony Orchestra years, his broadcast-friendly qualities expanded the orchestra’s audience through the TV show André Previn’s Music Night (1971-72), and, more indirectly, through the comic alter ego Andrew Preview he created with Eric Morecambe and Ernie Wise. In the US, he brought the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra to unprecedented national attention during his 1976-84 tenure thanks to the TV series Previn and the Pittsburgh (1977-80).

see article link
10  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: NEW SHOSTAKOVICH CYCLE on: April 04, 2019, 02:50:26 pm
This is a singularly pointless thread! Shostakovich's music does not qualify as "Little-known music of all eras". The intention was no doubt sarcastic but that does not make it any less pointless.
11  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Joseph Holbrooke from CPO on: March 29, 2019, 02:45:45 pm
Thanks Grin
12  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Joseph Holbrooke from CPO on: March 24, 2019, 07:49:07 pm
My apologies! Not in that way,thank goodness! But Gareth said he'd taken up a post,conducting another orchestra! (Sorry,I'm usually more careful than that!)

....but that would not prevent him recording more Holbrooke surely?
13  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Second-Tier English Symphonies on: March 18, 2019, 11:06:37 pm
I shall lock this thread-at least temporarily-primarily because the discussion has become markedly over-heated and abusive. I would urge all members to recall the need to avoid direct abuse and rudeness!
14  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Second-Tier English Symphonies on: March 14, 2019, 06:11:01 pm
Although I am at an airport I feel that I should now respond.

There is a fine line between candour or robust discussion and rudeness.
I am sure that Greg K. did not intend his remarks to be taken as "rude". However if a member's post is described as "incoherent" it is understandable that the member perceives such a description as rudeness.
Perception and reception have to be taken into account when anyone speaks to or writes about someone else. Calyptorhynchus is entitled to express his perception. If a post of mine was described as "incoherent" I would be offended.
15  About music in general / Performance and technique / Re: Andre Previn (1929-2019) on: March 01, 2019, 01:26:04 pm
Yes, Toby it was against our "rules" to post the link to Andre Previn's recording of the RVW Pastoral Symphony. It is still available on cd and we would encourage those interested to purchase the cd. It is-as you correctly say-a marvellous performance of an under-rated work.
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