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46  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / General musical discussion / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: June 15, 2022, 12:52:06 pm
It's Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffff ffffffffffffffffffitzner! :o ;D        String Quartets in D minor & op. 36       Franz Schubert Quartet    Cpo

     

                    Ze String Quartet zat grew up and became a symphony!                                              Go on Hans,gissa smile! :) (He looks like me when I get up in the morning!)

I confess to liking some of the old curmudgeon's music! Mind you,I'm turning into a bit of one myself! Although,I don't plan on any goose stepping! (Unless,I want to pull another muscle!) His String Quartet's are satisfying creation's,imo! He turned one of these into a Symphony,later on! The bounder! :o
47  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / Commercial recordings (vintage, new and forthcoming) / Re: Arthur Sullivan: L’île Enchantée: ballet in one (etc) Dutton on: June 14, 2022, 03:07:33 pm
It does seem like a "must buy/must have"!
48  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / General musical discussion / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: June 14, 2022, 12:46:57 pm
Joachim Raff: String Quartets No's 1 & 7 "Die schöne Müllerin"     Quartetto di Milano   Tudor



While I don't think Draeseke and Rufinatscha are the major talent's some folk at a certain forum think they are,I must admit I do enjoy allot of music by the other bloke they revere and who even seems to be the raison d'être for that forum's existence! (I wish I could say otherwise (spitting in pan! ;D) but I think Raff was a very talented composer. I would hesitate to put him "up there" with the greatest,though. He,undoubtedly,had a rich imagination and had a brilliant gift for writing colourful,imaginative,romantic scores. I think his best symphonies deserve an occasional hearing & would go down well with audiences in concert halls. Perhaps not so well with the critics! I think some of his chamber music is of a very high quality,indeed & it is hard to understand why music of such high quality isn't good enough for the repertory. I think one of the problem's is that,even if a 'critic' likes a piece of music,they don't want to put their head above the parapet and admit they like,or even,admire it;because they know what the majority think! And then there's the phenomena of people thinking in pack's which psychologist's,sociologist's & even occultist's have written about! But I don't think I'll go into that here?!! While I don't like comparisons anymore than allot of member's here and I believe in enjoying a piece of music for it's own sake,I would hesitate to put Raff "up there" with the likes of Mendelssohn,Schubert,Schumann & Weber. I think his music tends to lack the visionary and spiritual qualities and humanity (not that Raff wasn't a nice man) I find in some of those composer's. There is an element of the "drawing room" to some of Raff's symphonies,which tend's to leave them,somewhat,wanting in comparison. Which is why Raff's depiction of woodland & sprites pales in comparison to Mendelssohn's A Midsummer Night's Dream (for example). It is a lovely score,though and possibly my favourite Raff symphony,along with No 4. There's no doubt Raff's symphonies should be enjoyed on their own terms. Indeed,I like them all & in many respects,taken as a whole,they are an important contribution to romantic music of the period and deserve to heard! Anyone who doubt's Raff's talent for orchestration needs to have a listen to No 9. The performance on the Tudor cd is superb.

NB: like to think that if Raff was,somehow alive,or "with us",he'd be hiding from AH & the other forum moderator's (over there!) on this message board,while appreciating all the work they do on his behalf from a safe distance! ;D
49  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / Commercial recordings (vintage, new and forthcoming) / Walford Davies,Alfred M Wall,Susan Spain-Dunk: Piano Quintets Dutton on: June 12, 2022, 11:01:32 pm
And what did I say about Susan Spain-Dunk?! I nearly missed this one! I like some of Walford Davies' chamber music! (I haven't heard Everyman or his Solemn Melody!) I've never heard of Alfred M Wall,until now!

https://www.duttonvocalion.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=CDLX7396

50  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / General musical discussion / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: June 12, 2022, 10:52:03 pm
Brahms: Symphonies 1-4      Wiener Philharmoniker / Rafael Kubelik     Decca Eloquence  2 cd's



Brahm's heaven! :) Magnificent performance's recorded in Vienna,during 1956 & 57,in lovely stereo! I do love the choice of the statue of Brahms for the cover artwork! The perfect antidote after you've been waiting for something to happen while listening to your Draeseke symphony collection! This really sort's out the men from the boys! ;D :)
51  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / Commercial recordings (vintage, new and forthcoming) / York Bowen, Susan Spain-Dunk, Gordon Jacob,Holst (etc) : Wind Quintets Dutton on: June 12, 2022, 10:33:59 pm
....And Karl Jenkins! :o Susan Spain-Dunk seems to be getting quite popular,lately! Cpo,now Dutton! I have yet to hear a note of her music. I must admit I won't be rushing out to buy any of these releases. Although,I would like to add the Arthur Sullivan cd to my collection. I think I've spent far too much,already,this month!

There are some more releases on the Dutton site!

https://www.duttonvocalion.co.uk/

52  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / Commercial recordings (vintage, new and forthcoming) / Alec Rowley Dutton on: June 12, 2022, 10:26:54 pm
Must admit,I'd never heard of him!

https://www.duttonvocalion.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=CDLX7401
53  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / Commercial recordings (vintage, new and forthcoming) / Richard Arnell: Symphony for Strings (etc) Dutton on: June 12, 2022, 10:24:36 pm
More Arnell from Dutton!

https://www.duttonvocalion.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=CDLX7400
54  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / Commercial recordings (vintage, new and forthcoming) / Arthur Sullivan: L’île Enchantée: ballet in one (etc) Dutton on: June 12, 2022, 10:22:35 pm
More Arthur Sullivan from Dutton! I should think Albion is aware of this! I would be truly amazed if he isn't! I was reading about it on the Arthur Sullivan Society website only the other day! I may even join?!!

https://www.duttonvocalion.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=CDLX7404

55  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / Individual composers / Re: Lennox Berkeley (1903-1989) on: June 11, 2022, 03:01:03 am
And back to Tripe........I mean,Lennox Berkeley! (AH) ;D

I think Berkeley was pretty inconsistent - there is certainly some lovely stuff including the Four Poems of Saint Teresa, but sometimes the symphonies sit quite static and Nelson is a total bore. What else is in the British and Irish Music Archive? I can't seem to find it.

 ::)
Of course,I've got to remember that I only received those Lennox Berkeley cd's in the last week,or so,and I'm aware of the rush of blood that can occur,to the head,when playing a newly acquired cd for the first time! ::) I think the vintage performances on that emi centenary album enhanced my enjoyment,somewhat (Dennis Brain,for instance!). The fact that his Third Symphony only lasts around fifteen minutes might be another factor? I did enjoy what I heard,but maybe I wouldn't be so keen if it lasted half an hour? (Like No's 1 & 2,which I have not heard!). I must admit I've avoided LB to date because I had some idea his music might be a bit dull,but I was pleasantly surprised by what I heard! But it's still early days! I thought I'd drop a Lennox Berkeley thread though,as he doesn't seem to get allot of attention on forums! (Although,he seems to have a few admirer's at the GMG Forum! The Concerto for Two Pianos appears to be the overall favourite there!)
56  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / Commercial recordings (vintage, new and forthcoming) / Re: John Ireland from John Wilson on: June 11, 2022, 02:40:31 am
John Wilson has done some thrilling recordings for Chandos but he already recorded an Ireland disc with the Hallé before. I confess I was a bit disappointed with his take on Satyricon. The Hickox discs were my first encounter with Ireland in the early 90s. He probably took some licence with the tempo in the middle section of Satyricon but to me this added real romance to the piece. Listening to Wilson his straight approach left me cold. The playing was of course unquestionably great but along with the Chandos acoustics Hickox did it for me. I am tempted to try this new Wilson/Chandos but...

I think it was Boult on Lyrita who first did John Ireland's orchestral works great favours, and his recordings still stand up well (to say that the Piano Concerto was once so hugely popular it's never heard now). My favourite work is The Forgotten Rite, it reminds me somewhat of Bax at his most mysterious. I may give this new Chandos disc a spin simply because I greatly admire both composer and conductor, but I wish that he and Chandos would get back to exploring previously-unrecorded British repertoire...

 :)

I have recordings by Barbirolli and the Hallé of Mai-Dun and The Forgotten Rite but they date, I think, from the early 1950s and so while they are fine interpretations, the 'fi' is far from 'hi'.
The recordings by Barbirolli are,actually,my favourite's! The ancient old mono recordings just seem to add a degree of atmosphere that makes them my first port of call,even above Boult! This goes for These Things Shall Be,as well! In fact,that's probably the only recording I really enjoy of that work! His recording of Bax's Third Symphony is also the best recording of any Bax symphony ever,imho (as they say!). And I say that as a self confessed Baxian! (I even like Winter Legends :o,which someone at the GMG described as sounding like woolly mammoths (leaping about! à la,Beecham,I suppose?!*) Of course,this is all yet more evidence that I'm obviously heading for the knackers yard (Like Ginger in Black Beauty!) :(


* On Beethoven's Seventh: "It's like a lot of yaks jumping around!"!
57  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / Individual composers / Re: Lennox Berkeley (1903-1989) on: June 10, 2022, 06:26:03 pm
I think Berkeley was pretty inconsistent - there is certainly some lovely stuff including the Four Poems of Saint Teresa, but sometimes the symphonies sit quite static and Nelson is a total bore. What else is in the British and Irish Music Archive? I can't seem to find it.

 ::)

To be fair to Berkeley, the vast majority of composers were inconsistent. Even Beethoven wrote some fearful tripe: does anyone know his Two Preludes through all twelve major keys op 39? No? I thought not, since nobody ever plays them (for good reason).


 :D



 :P

58  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / Individual composers / Re: Lennox Berkeley (1903-1989) on: June 10, 2022, 04:32:34 pm
I think Berkeley was pretty inconsistent - there is certainly some lovely stuff including the Four Poems of Saint Teresa, but sometimes the symphonies sit quite static and Nelson is a total bore. What else is in the British and Irish Music Archive? I can't seem to find it.

 ::)

To be fair to Berkeley, the vast majority of composers were inconsistent. Even Beethoven wrote some fearful tripe: does anyone know his Two Preludes through all twelve major keys op 39? No? I thought not, since nobody ever plays them (for good reason).
Not wanting to go off-topic,but,just out of interest,have you ever consumed tripe,Lionel? As in eating it! (Not Rufinatscha! ;D) I've heard allot about it,but never had the pleasure (?) of tucking into it!!
59  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / Individual composers / Re: Lennox Berkeley (1903-1989) on: June 05, 2022, 10:02:19 pm
The short,less boring & time consuming to read version!

Lennox Berkeley: Mont Juic,Serenade for Strings,Divertimento,Partita for Chamber Orchestra,Symphony No 3  Lpo/Sir Lennox Berkeley  Lyrita



Great stuff! :)
60  MUSIC OF ALL ERAS / General musical discussion / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: June 04, 2022, 07:54:49 pm
Lehar: Paganini (1925)    Accord 2 cd's



(complete, with abridged dialogue in French)
Robert Massard (ten) Paganini; Roméo Carles (bar) Pimpinelli; Colette Riedinger (sop) Anna-Elisa; Geori Boue (sop) Bella
Henri Merckel (violin)
Orchestre and choirs / Pierre Dervaux  Accord 2 cd's
Rec. Universal (Decca) France Studios, Antony, France 1955 Mono

A good recording of this operetta,in mono sound. The best known number of which,in it's english version,might not go down so well with feminist's and the #Me Too movement,these days! Like most of these old French recording's of operetta made (mainly) in the 50's and 60's,the singing is of a very high standard and the dialogue is performed almost like a play,with judicious use of sound effects & ambience (chattering voices and/or music in the background) where required. Interestingly,it took until 1982 for a 'complete' recording to be released by a German recording label (emi-electrola). That one had Anneliese Rothenberger and Nicolai Gedda,and had the benefit of stereo,but I don't have it,because it's been deleted and Sellers ask ridiculous prices. In lieu of that I've had to make do with a very good 1952 recording conducted by Franz Marszalek (available on the Membran label,but now deleted) who was one of the best advocates of this genre of entertainment,and a vintage cast that includes Anny Schlemm and Peter Anders,who is rated very highly by fans of operetta in German speaking lands. And very good he is too! A few more years and he may have recorded some operetta in stereo,but he was tragically killed in a car accident in 1954 at the of 46! The only other recording I have is a 1960's selection of excerpts from the operetta with Rudolf Schock and Margit Schramm (A reissue of the original Eurodisc Lp). The photo of the Accord set on this page is of my own copy & I took the price sticker off specially. (With a little help from a Q stick & isopropyl alcohol! ::))

          

               The mono Membran 2 cd set                      The stereo 2 cd electrola reissue I can't afford!        Eurodisc highlight's  (Original Lp artwork & bad wig/hair day! ::) ;D)                           
 
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