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1921  Assorted items / Commercial recordings (vintage, new and forthcoming) / Re: Stanford sacred choral music from Hyperion on: September 20, 2012, 06:53:55 pm
Cilgwyn, do you have either the Requiem (1897) or the Stabat mater (1907)? These are very Italianate in idiom, beautiful and ultimately satisfying settings which should be heard much more often. Stanford could be very uneven, but certainly these two, and the Songs of the Fleet (preferably the Benjamin Luxon recording), are very immediate in their appeal.

Despite its reputation, and the fine Chandos recording, I don't much care for The Revenge (which sounds a bit stilted to me) and wish that they had taken the bull by the horns and tackled The Voyage of Maeldune (which is quite lovely) instead ...

 ::)
Actually,see previous post,Albion! ;D Actually,no I the only choral music I have by Stanford is 'The Songs of the Fleet/Sea' Chandos cd. I'm glad you said you prefer the earlier Luxon cd. I did not enjoy the Chandos cd,but I DID have seem to have some idea that Luxon was more stirring,and a more distinctive voice! But it's so long since I heard the cd (Lp in my case!). I shall have to hear the works you mention. I must admit I have struggled a bit with Stanford. Very crafty of Chandos to put that Irish Rhapsody on as the first item. Even if you're not sure of Stanford,his inclusion of that tune & it's familiarity seems to put you in a more than receptive mood for whatever follows. As it happens,the Sixth has a very stirring opening & I am enjoying this now. And listening to this lovely slow movement,why wouldn't I?
The trouble is as soon as I start going through the complete cycle,the doubts begin to set in! :(
1922  Assorted items / Commercial recordings (vintage, new and forthcoming) / Re: Stanford sacred choral music from Hyperion on: September 20, 2012, 06:40:12 pm
I knew this would happen after posting that! :( :-[ I just put on the Chandos cd of his Sixth Symphony! The first track is the Irish Rhapsody No 1. As soon as it launched into 'Danny Boy' aka 'The Londonderry Air',I thought,'Aaagh! He's got me!!'
Lovely! :) :)
1923  Assorted items / Commercial recordings (vintage, new and forthcoming) / Re: Stanford sacred choral music from Hyperion on: September 20, 2012, 04:58:16 pm
I suppose there are,possibly,more diplomatic ways of getting a thread back on-topic.I find ignoring a post that appears inappropriate or off-topic (if I think it is!) & responding to,or simply furthering,a previous on-topic post often works for me! Not that I can talk,judging by some of my dafter posts on the GMG thread! :(
On a more positive note,Rosemary Brown has got her own thread now! And come to think of,I may have heard of her,too? 'Nationwide' with Frank Bough,perhaps?!! Anyway,moving along.......... ;D they DO have some interesting threads going on there. For example,mention of a Franz Lachner opera broadcast? I might try & hear that!!!
Incidentally,with respect to being on-topic,let's not forget old Charles Stanford! ;D Although,I must admit,I'm more of a Hubert Parry man,myself! :)
1924  Assorted items / Commercial recordings (vintage, new and forthcoming) / Re: Stanford sacred choral music from Hyperion on: September 20, 2012, 02:02:38 pm
I would so love to hear this work! I wonder if one would be allowed to discuss it on UC...
;D There was a bit of discord there last night,I gather...& maybe,a new member?!! Fortunately,it's all peace & love here! I mean,love for music,of course! ;D
1925  INDICES / Composer reference / Re: Composer Catalogues: Orchestral and Choral/Orchestral Music on: September 16, 2012, 02:14:56 am
Indeed! Keep it up! I can't help wondering whether the powers that be behind a certain other forum might experience a need to make use of them!! ;D
I must say,you certainly have allot to do! There are allot of composers out there,both alive & deceased! By gum,I can actually remember a time when Havergal Brian was an exotic sounding name! ;D
1926  INDICES / Composer reference / Re: Composer Catalogues: Orchestral and Choral/Orchestral Music on: September 16, 2012, 01:31:23 am
Absolutely marvellous! I'm currently listening to the Louis Glass Symphony downloads via this same website. Thanks to Dundonnell,I can look up his all his orchestral compositions & any available recordings on his splendid website,in the twinkling of an eye! In other words,I sit here,with my feet up, supping my bedtime tipple,listening to music while you do all the back breaking slog! What more could a music lover want?!!Cheers! ;D

Seriously,thank you very much! :)
1927  Downloads by surname / Downloads: discussion without links / Re: Romanian Music on: September 15, 2012, 05:54:14 pm
Agreed! If someone uploads a rare piece of music I've been wanting to hear for years it would be somewhat churlish of me to nit pick about little things like that!! But a bit of info is rather nice & sort of sets you up for what you're about to hear. Also,I must admit I am a bit of a stickler for nuggets of information about recordings. I can't just bung 'em on! I NEED to know something about them!
Sad,isn't it?!! ::) ;D
1928  MEMBERS' CORNER / Members' wish lists & requests / Daniel Jones: Fifth Symphony on: September 13, 2012, 05:04:19 pm
It's fascinating to hear the Fifth Symphony,by Daniel Jones,conducted by the composer himself & I'm very grateful to be able to hear it;but does anyone have a more recent recording/performance in their collection? It would be very helpful to be able to hear this symphony in,how shall I put it ;D,more 'contemporary' sound quality!
1929  Assorted items / Commercial recordings (vintage, new and forthcoming) / Re: Upcoming Naxos Releases? on: September 13, 2012, 03:00:47 pm
There is little real need to add to your "thousands of words" ;D

You have summed up the situation very neatly imo ;D
;D Thank you,very kindly Dundonnell! ;D And do you know the saddest thing about all of this? It took me thousands of words to come to exactly the same conclusion! :( ;D
1930  Assorted items / Commercial recordings (vintage, new and forthcoming) / Re: Upcoming Naxos Releases? on: September 13, 2012, 01:36:02 pm
I think I must have spent hundreds,or even thousands of words,in a string of posts on the Roy Harris thread at the GMG forum,trying to defend the 'other' Roy Harris symphonies. I tried to come up with a good case for them twice & always came back to the same conclusions,ie that No 3 was the best,followed by No 6 & No 7,followed by No 5! Also,No 11 & possibly No 8 might have something going for them! No 6 DID seem to get more favourable posts than any of the others,but ONLY in the Pacific So recording! I got the feeling No 7 had the potential to make more 'friends' if it was available in a first rate performance & state of the art recording. Viewed as a retread of the 3rd by some,if you stick with it,there are some very imposing & arresting ideas there & a genuinely thrilling conclusion. The quieter,more reflective parts of No 5 have some very beautiful orchestration,but the only decent recording is decades old!
No's 8 & 11 were singled out as evidence that Harris was capable of doing something a little different! But what the hell happened between No 9 & 11,I really don't know?!!! As to orchestral music with speech,to be fair to Harris it never really works for me,anyway!
Incidentally,defending Harris isn't much fun,I can tell you! Some people really do think 'Roy Harris is No 3 & the rest is crap!' And they make sure you know it! :( :o
The main problem with Harris,imho,is lack of variety! (And I DO like some of the others!) Also,quite frankly,after a few Harris symphonies in succession,all that tub thumping patriotism can get to one a bit! :o
1931  Assorted items / Commercial recordings (vintage, new and forthcoming) / Re: New Duttons for October on: September 11, 2012, 02:08:00 pm
Inspired by a visit to the cave paintings at 'Lascaux' (Had a look at the Alan Bush website). This sounds very intriguing. (I have his Piano Concerto and I must admit,it's a bit on the astringent,thorny side for me). But that's just me,of course! And what did I expect? York Bowen?!! ;D
1932  Assorted items / Commercial recordings (vintage, new and forthcoming) / Re: New Duttons for October on: September 11, 2012, 12:10:28 pm
We're raving about the Brian cd on the GMG's HB thread right now....and it hasn't even been released yet!!
The others sounds interesting,but I'm going to have to find out a bit more,first! Dutton's interest in Bush brings hope that they might investigate some more demanding fare in the future eg Daniel Jones!!! I live in hope! ;D
No Holbrooke,though! :( ;D Maybe next time (and Bate,please! :))
Fricker's pile driver third symphony would be fantastic!
1933  Downloads by surname / Downloads: discussion without links / Re: Estonian Music on: September 10, 2012, 12:24:14 pm
We ARE now well off-course ;D

To an extent I was being deliberately provocative ;D  I can perfectly well sit through a Mozart Piano Concerto and I should try harder with Lutoslawski.

But, as for Rachmaninov and Delius ::) No, I am sorry, I simply cannot abide the former's wallowing in nostalgic romanticism and I loathe the Second Symphony AND the Second Piano Concerto. Delius simply bores me to tears; all this lying around in summer gardens or drifting slowly down a river.........I keep on wanting to shout "get on with it". "Brigg Fair" is ok, I suppose....but that's about it.

As for Mahler ???  I am a Brucknerian and I dislike intensely the current obsession with Mahler's music. He is the most over-recorded composer around at the present time. Mahler's First and Second are among my favourite works of all time (the absolutely heavenly closing 15 minutes of the 2nd reduces me to tears everytime I listen to it) but the later symphonies are harder-going for me. I can appreciate their greatness.....but give me the Bruckner 7th, 8th and 9th above them any time ;D

Anyway.......I fear this has drifted far too far from the subject of the thread and that is something I always deplore :)
It certainly has Dundonnell :o.........by all means,carry on! ;D
1934  Assorted items / General musical discussion / Re: Welcome on: September 10, 2012, 12:17:25 pm
I'm too old for the army,too! ;D Regarding Dundonnell's experience at the GMG. I had a similar,but not quite so vicious experience at the old,now defunct,Radio 3 forum. All I did was say I couldn't understand the neglect of a certain British composer (who was once very prominent at the BBC! You may know who I mean!). This resulted in a series of very unpleasant posts by another member....and I MEAN unpleasant! I left shortly afterwards. Besides the petty bickering between pro tonal & pro progressive type composers was getting to me,so I was thinking of leaving,anyway! I love music & while I don't particularly like atonal,or supposedly progressive composers,like the ones that tend to be favoured on R3;I don't have a problem with people enjoying them & it's certainly not worth getting worked up about. Life's too short! Anyway,like Dundonnell,I believe you can politely agree to disagree!
  As to the GMG. Personally,I have been very happy 'there',but maybe I'm just lucky....at least,so far! I find most of the people pleasant there and,unlike Dundonnell,I rather like the way threads meander. Like a good conversation,if it's too rigid it tends to stale! Having said that,I agree,you do need some kind of focus! But not people jumping in every five minutes & telling you what you should & shouldn't talk about,and even going so far as to close a thread,because they don't seem to like the direction in which a topic is going. That's equally annoying! I also tend to avoid posting replies to anyone who I have identified as crabby or argumentative;which tends to help! ;D
  Regarding downloads at the GMG. There is no 'official' download section at the GMG,but it is quite possible for a member to provide a download & I have personally received quite allot there.
  I must admit I DO have a particular partiality for the Havergal Brian thread! :)
1935  Assorted items / General musical discussion / Re: Welcome on: September 09, 2012, 08:26:59 pm
The GMG,or to use it's full title,'The Good Music Guide Classical Music Forum' is a big forum. Dundonnell was an active member there (and possibly still is!).I joined it after becoming dissatisfied with 'the other one' :). It is pretty easy going & everyone seems to get on there,unlike the old Radio 3 forum,where there seemed to be allot of petty bickering & posts being removed (although mine weren't! ;D),and heaven help you if you said you liked Robert Simpson! :o In fact so far,fingers crossed,I can only remember one 'flamer',who,as far as I can make out,seemed hell bent on getting everyone worked up,just for the sake of it! You can also post about other topics,besides music. in 'The Diner'!
I particularly like the Havergal Brian thread! :)
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