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1  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: February 20, 2019, 11:47:27 am
Wow! Shocked The things a drop of lager can do to the brain! Connecting Sacheverell Coke with Reger?!!

REGER
ROGER Sacheverell Coke

There. not so hard!
Grin Yes! Roll Eyes Grin And you probably start thinking you are listening to Reger (not Roger!).........or,the other way around?!! Undecided Grin
2  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: February 09, 2019, 07:55:14 pm
The Hyperion cd of Coke's Piano concertos........again! No 3,at the moment!
3  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: February 09, 2019, 01:57:34 pm
Wow! Shocked The things a drop of lager can do to the brain! Connecting Sacheverell Coke with Reger?!! But yes,imho (now! Grin) interesting and intriguing concertos. I think I'll have another listen,later. And yes,I will look at writing (ye olde,posted letter + sae) or emailing,the persons/labels,as you suggested.
Incidentally,the booklet,with the Hyperion cd,informs the reader,that an interview with Coke was conducted by the BBC,approximately,two years before his death. The answer may be in an earlier post,somewhere;but has this interview survived? Or has it vanished into the,proverbial,'ether'?! Sad It would be very interesting to hear;or,at least,nice to know that it has survived.
4  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: February 09, 2019, 02:23:55 am
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most of Coke's chamber music has survived (unlike,allot of his other music). Is there any chance that any more of it will receive recordings? Unsurprisingly,I'd love to hear the Violin Sonata No 2,for example!

I am doing my best. Two things you could do to help: (i) Write to Simon Callaghan (the pianist) saying how much you like Coke's chamber/solo piano music and asking for more; writ to Simon Perry at Hyperion Records urging him to record some of Coke's chamber music with Callaghan, especially the "Elegiac" Trio (which Simon performed with violinist Jamie Campbell and 'cellist Karel Bredenhorst) at a concert I organised last year at St Paul's Church, Knightsbridge (it was very well received), perhaps coupled with the late Trio (and the only other extant trio by Coke) for piano, flute and viola, known as "The Ortina"; (ii)  write to Rupert Marshall-Luck at The English Music Festival and ask him to look at the 2nd Violin Sonata. If you do, I will follow up on that.
I must apologise,for missing your earlier post. Yes,quite! While I was listening to the concertos I looked up a few of the reviews;and,while I was reading an interview,with Simon Callaghan,somewhere (I forget where) I thought of leaving a reply in the comments bit,at the bottom. As you say,the more letters and feedback,the better. I really enjoyed listening to the Somm and Em recordings of his chamber & piano music,recently. I think it is of a very high quality. Regarding his concertos. I'm not really a big fan of romantic concertos,actually. Not that I don't like them. It's just that so many seem to have been churned out,in the latter part of the late nineteenth century (particularly) and early twentieth century;and there are the really great ones,good ones,that deserve a bit better than they get,and the formulaic ones,that tend to send me to sleep! And there are allot of them!! Listening again,to those of Coke,I'm starting to feel that it's the fact that they don't just rely on catchy tunes and flashy effects that is their real virtue. Also,the lack of reliance on formula. While some people complain of lack of developement and ideas petering out;I like the feeling that I don't know quite what to expect. Some of the music (the first movement of the third) brings to mind certain film scores of the golden age of Hollywood,but what's wrong with that? Allot of film music from that period is very good. Then you've got Rachmaninov and Scriabin thrown into the mix. But the influences just make it all the more intriguing,as far as I'm concerned. And,Coke seems to make something of his own out of it. You might find this strange,or annoying? But I actually starting thinking of Reger's Piano concerto at one point. Not because Coke sounds like Reger (He doesn't! Grin)  But,because Reger's concerto gets allot of stick,for it's apparent lack of tunes,and,the obvious comparisons (usually derogatory) with Brahms. Yet,love it,or hate it,the Reger deserves to be judged on it's own merits;and,imho,has a strange fascination of it's own. At least,if it "clicks" with you (if not?! Roll Eyes Grin)!! Anyway,as Alan might say,over at the other forum! I digress!! Roll Eyes Grin Yes,I'm going to have to consider writing some letters (or emails?!)! The more the merrier,as they say!
5  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: February 08, 2019, 09:54:41 pm
The Hyperion cd of Piano concertos by Roger Sacheverell Coke. I think I'm,largely,on my own here;but I'm beginning to enjoy these concertos!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked Grin Smiley
6  Little-known music of all eras / Coming broadcasts and listen-later links / Re: Grace Williams - Missa Cambrensis on: February 02, 2019, 06:36:24 pm
I enquired last night of someone in a position to know about these things.
The legal position is that the BBC cannot release the performance for commercial sale without the consent of the performers. If one soloist has refused his agreement because of dissatisfaction with his performance then that is it....full stop!
Even if,every one else,involved in the performance,is happy with it?!! If they were?!! As they say,in Wales! Duw,Duw!! Huh Sad
Oh,well! I've got the download,now! Musn't gwumble!! Roll Eyes Grin Incidentally,I enjoyed the Lyrita cd,of Mathias' This Worlde's Joie,so much;I bought a secondhand cd,of the old Chandos cd,of his Lux Aeterna,on ebay,this afternoon! Maybe,Daniel Jones,St Peter (which we,also,have here) could be another contendor,for a future Lyrita issue?! And then,of course,there are some choral works by Morfydd Owen,who is currently (deservedly,imo) receiving some,renewed,interest. It would make a change from Karl Jenkins,anyway!! Roll Eyes Grin But I musn't jump the gun!! Grin
7  Little-known music of all eras / Coming broadcasts and listen-later links / Re: Grace Williams - Missa Cambrensis on: February 02, 2019, 05:27:34 pm
I enquired last night of someone in a position to know about these things.
The legal position is that the BBC cannot release the performance for commercial sale without the consent of the performers. If one soloist has refused his agreement because of dissatisfaction with his performance then that is it....full stop!
Even if,every one else,involved in the performance,is happy with it?!! If they were?!! As they say,in Wales! Duw,Duw!! Huh Sad
8  Little-known music of all eras / Coming broadcasts and listen-later links / Re: Grace Williams - Missa Cambrensis on: February 02, 2019, 01:21:56 pm
According to this month's Gramophone, this performance was recorded by Lyrita for release in August this year

It beggars belief that the BBC and Lyrita regard this broadcast performance as "un-releasable"... on what grounds?

 Shocked
There was quite a bit on the web,at the time (and here,in Wales) & how the (former) Archbishop of Wales,Rowan Williams,was taking part. (And it get's a good review here!) All the more perplexing,that it should be canned! Huh Especially,if these are the forces assembled,for the recording?! I have been enjoying some Welsh composers recently (That Lyrita cd of William Mathias This Worlde's Joie,is grrrreeeat!! Smiley) but I ,must admit,I haven't heard this yet! Thank you for the re-upload. I have downloaded it,now.....and Ethel Smyth's,rather enjoyable (I seem to remember?) Mass.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/mar/02/missa-cambrensis-review-grace-williams-bbcnow
9  Little-known music of all eras / Notice of interesting concerts around the world / Re: Concerto dedicated to London on: January 27, 2019, 01:43:39 pm
Perfectly,reasonable,Dundonnell! Smiley Cyrillic looks very nice. I used to love it on those old Melodiya Lp's. But even they,usually,provided a translation. Thank you,Neil! Smiley
10  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: NEW SIBELIUS CYCLE on: January 26, 2019, 09:58:25 pm
And why another Sibelius cycle? If conductors haven't nailed the music in any of the cycles we have already then they never will.
Quite! Roll Eyes Grin If I'd had a pound for every new cycle,or recording,that is supposed to be the cycle,or,the,recording,to have (or measure others,by?)!
11  Little-known music of all eras / Coming broadcasts and listen-later links / Re: Ethel Smyth Mass in D (1893) on: January 25, 2019, 11:46:25 am
And then there's,The Prison!

https://experientialorchestra.com/

https://www.classical-scene.com/2016/05/21/ethel-smyth-prison
12  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Susan Spain-Dunk on: January 24, 2019, 01:32:43 pm
Sadly, Susan Spain-Dunk is just one of several female composers whose work has been gathering dust for far too long, thinking also of Morfydd Owen (whose evocative 1913 orchestral Nocturne was featured at last year's Proms and whose Morfa Rhuddlan of 1914 is in the British and Irish downloads thread). At least we now have an excellent disc from Chandos representing Ruth Gipps and the superb Dutton recording of Ina Boyle...

 Smiley
Re: Morfydd owen! I bought the Tŷ Cerdd cd of songs and piano music,by the sadly,shortly lived,Morfydd Llwyn Owen. She's a bit of an icon here in Wales. There have been a number of programs about her,here in Wales,on radio and tv,over the years. There have also been various articles and books. Most recently a feature length biopic,on the Welsh langage tv channel,S4C (with subtitles in english!). Known for her exotic,beauty and her marriage to the famous psychoanalyst,Ernest Jones. Even people who aren't,normally,interested in classical music are interested in her,here in Wales. The fact,that some people still think that foul play was involved,and that Ernest Jones was the one 'who dunnit',only,adds to the fascination;and there's no doubt that the circumstances of here death are mired in controversy. (The evidence does look decidedly dodgy!) I was wondering what the music on the cd would be like. I'm not usually very keen on people warbling to piano accompaniments,but I enjoyed the songs,very much. Her piano music,too. Elin Manahan Thomas,who has done allot to promote her music,has a lovely voice. The cd is well recorded,with a lovely,hand tinted,photograph of Morfydd Owen and interesting booklet notes about the composer and her music. A lovely cd. It can be bought via Tŷ Cerdd's website. Although,I bought my copy (online) from a shop in Aberystwyth.
13  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Hubert Parry - English Lyrics now available complete at last! on: January 22, 2019, 10:51:46 am
I just noticed at the "other" forum (not Sydney's or his alter ego?) that Hubert Parry's oratorio,Judith,is going to be performed and then recorded for release by Chandos. ("Spine tingling choruses and a dramatic story").
Wow! All these works that,only,thirty,odd,years ago,you thought you would never hear,being recorded! What next I wonder?!! Shocked Grin

http://londonenglishsongfestival.org/judith
14  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: January 21, 2019, 11:56:28 am
Nielsen symphonies conducted by Bernstein and Ormandy. From the Sony box set of the symphonies,and some other orchestral works. I actually hadn't heard the Flute and Clarinet Concertos,before!! I bought this set after reading a post,from Mirror Image,at the GMG Forum,extolling the qualities of Bernstein's recordings of Symphonies 3 & 4. I've never been that mad about Nielsen. Not that I didn't like his music! I just didn't return to him,that often! The exception was,the Fourth Symphony,which I got to know,as a youngster,via Alexander Gibson's recording,on an RCA Lp. A performance which is,apparently,still rated,very highly,by some. I had the Ole Schmidt cycle on Unicorn,for a long time. Some people like them;but they seem to have done little for me! After reading,MI's post,I looked for a copy of Bernstein's 3 & 5;but the prices sellers were asking,were too high for me. So,I bought this,4 cd set,instead! Needless,to say,I am now a complete convert to the Nielsen cause!! Grin Smiley
15  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: What are you currently listening to? on: January 20, 2019, 08:23:59 pm
Roger Sacheverell Coke Violin Sonata No 1. Yes,I,must admit,wasn't exactly,bowled over by his Piano Concertos;but this is excellent music. According to the,truly,admirable,booklet notes (and I love the photographs) with this EM cd;most of Coke's chamber music has survived (unlike,allot of his other music). Is there any chance that any more of it will receive recordings? Unsurprisingly,I'd love to hear the Violin Sonata No 2,for example!
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