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1  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Dibdin: Christmas Gambols on: November 19, 2017, 03:56:00 pm
Retrospect Opera have just released a new recording of works by Dibdin, composer of Tom Bowling, two "Table Entertainments" (short operas) and some songs. It's a bit earlier than my usual period, but looks like an interesting addition from a period in British opera of which hardly anything is ever heard.

Retrospect Opera are the group that gave us Smyth's "The Boatswain's Mate", which was really professionally recorded and produced, so I have high hopes for this.

If anyone is interested in them, they have a few projects going on, all related to British opera:
Apparently they also have a special offer on at the moment.
I have the,long deleted,Hyperion recording of Dibdin's The Ephesian Matron; The Brickdust Man and The Grenadier by Opera Restor'd,and,I must say,I have found the enthusiastic performances of these pieces,highly enjoyable. Their Hyperion recording,also long deleted,of Lampe's: Pyramus and Thisbe is even better,though. I played them both,recently. So,yes,imho,I think this is quite interesting. I probably won't rush out to buy it,though;as I have to watch the pennies a bit these days!! Sad
2  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Coke Piano Concertos (Hyperion RPC Vol. 73) - November 2017 on: November 05, 2017, 03:03:24 pm
I thought the first movement of the Fourth Piano Concerto was promising. It reminded me a bit of some of those Hollywood films,like Hangover Square,with the composer playing his concerto while the audience is fleeing,and the concert hall is erupting in flames around him!! Grin But Herrmann would have had a good tune;and,after initial promise,the music  just seemed to meander aimlessly towards it's less than thrilling conclusion! Sad Furthermore,some of the scoring seemed crude to my ears (some of those intrusions from the brass,in particular). I only wish I could be more positive. I tried hard! Roger Sacheverell Coke obviously did have some talent. I have enjoyed the solo piano works released on the Somm label and the Violin Sonata released on Em Records. I think the poor man obviously had mental health problems,and my own feeling is that,he bit off a bit more than he could chew here. Talent,imagination and precocity doesn't necessarily a good Piano Concerto make. Also,I do think that by that time,that kind of romantic piano concerto had been done to absolute death. Indeed,if I had a pound for every romantic piano concerto I have heard,that I have only felt a need to listen to once, or rush to switch off,I would be a rich man,indeed! And yet,the few examples that I enjoy are very enjoyable,indeed!  That is not to denigrate,or demean Roger Sacheverell Coke's achievement. He obviously had allot of health issues and problems. Indeed,it is remarkable he achieved as much as he did! It also proves that money isn't everything!! Roll Eyes Grin I certainly admire Simon Carrington's commitment to his cause (and Gareth Vaughan's) and Hyperion's enterprise in recording this work. I also hope that there will be more recordings of his instrumental and chamber music.......which I do think is worth hearing. And so was this,really;since it satisfied our curiosity.....even if some of us were,ultimately,disappointed by the music we heard! Sad
3  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Fricker Symphonies Nos.1-4 on Lyrita on: October 12, 2017, 04:10:20 pm
After enjoying the first two symphonies;I put on the second cd again,last night. It was great to hear the third in really good,clean sound. (I'd begun to wish I'd kept my superior sounding off-air cassette!) I now think this a tremendous follow up to the first two. Full of anger and defiance. Quite thrilling in places. The quieter moments as gripping and absorbing,as I might expect from this composer.The fourth symphony had seemed less focused than the first three. I found my attention wandering at the first listen. A rest from Fricker,and try again,I thought? Ha! Roll Eyes Sod's law struck last night. The Fourth symphony finally seemed to "click" with me. (Incidentally,Fricker's quieter moments are ideal for late night listening). Unfortunately,it was past midnight. Very reluctantly,to put it mildly,I switched off the Fourth Symphony;just when it seemed to have begun to cast it's spell on me! Sad
I will have another listen again,tonight. This time I will begin with the second cd in the set,and hopefully be able to finish listening to the Fourth before bed?!! Sad Angry Grin
4  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Fricker Symphonies Nos.1-4 on Lyrita on: October 10, 2017, 01:41:38 pm
The Fricker set arrived today (Tuesday). I ordered it from English Postbox. Apparently,this is actually,MDT (or a separate company owned by them?). I have bought cd's from them before.The were very quick,indeed. I ordered it on Friday afternoon. I am listening to the second cd,now. It is great to hear this music in such clean sound. The third and fourth Symphonies,in particular,needed to be heard in better sound. (I began to wish I'd kept my off-air cassette of the third!). I think it is,quite simply, one of the most exciting cd releases for a while. Along with the Daniel Jones symphonies. Such satisfying,absorbing music.Why did this have to take so long?!!! Roll Eyes Angry Still,we're getting them,now! Time to enjoy Smiley............................. ..........................then, worry about where I'm going to store the things?!! Grin
5  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Fricker Symphonies Nos.1-4 on Lyrita on: October 07, 2017, 05:16:21 pm
Finding room is another issue! I keep thinking I need to rig up one of those Heath Robinson,space saving,contraptions;but I'm useless at DIY!! I was definitely going to buy this one,though! I think I'd have felt a bit guilty about it if I didn't. You do need to put your money where your mouth is,in these cases,if possible. I agree with Dundonnell,that every cd bought (or downloaded) adds up,even if you think it won't;encouraging Lyrita to release something else that is otherwise unavailable,and you may like,too! Buying another Mahler Second,however wonderful that composition undoubtedly is,will (also,undoubtedly!) add another Mahler Second to your collection of Mahler Second's;but,ultimately,Mahler cd's are going to pump out in seemingly endless amounts from the recording labels anyway!! Roll Eyes Grin The recent Cpo release of Louis Glass' Fifth Symphony will have to wait a little longer,though;but I will be buying it.......even if I have to sell the shirt off my back!! Roll Eyes Sad Grin
6  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Fricker Symphonies Nos.1-4 on Lyrita on: October 07, 2017, 12:57:19 pm
Yes,it's not much of a review is it? I did buy one or two copies after hearing that it had been taken over by new owners,and had "improved"! There were a few less intrusions from celebs;but the "reviews" are so brief,as to be hardly worth the cost of the magazine,itself (I could buy a s/h cd with the money!). Also,I know it's not very important;but I can't stand that wierd feeling,shiny,paper they use (particularly the cover!) Huh Roll Eyes

To be honest,the only reason I referred to Guy Rickard's review was because of the last paragraph. I like his comments here. "The reception of Jonesís music has usually been respectful rather than enthusiastic.." I have noticed and been more than a little rattled by this,myself,over the years! The Penguin guide,useful as it was;another culprit. (I recall thinking,"What I'm hearing is allot better than that!") Rickards,however,regards them as "strong and important works that repay familiarity". He,rightfully,makes a plea for concert hall and studio performances. Yes....yes,I say;and particularly here in Wales. Just a pity Guy Rickards couldn't have been given a bit more room. Dear,oh dear!! Roll Eyes

By the way,it is because of your enthusiasm for Fricker,Dundonnell,that I persisted with his music. Although,I did enjoy his third symphony,when it was broadcast (back in the mid nineties,I think).
7  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Fricker Symphonies Nos.1-4 on Lyrita on: October 06, 2017, 07:21:43 pm
Unfortunately,boring things like keeping a roof over my,heating,and other such mundane necessities,mean I have to keep an eye on the pennies!! Sad Roll Eyes Grin Also,the 'clever' software I installed to prevent me succumbing to too much temptation on certain websites selling cd's,dvd's (and books,too!) is very effective,indeed!! Roll Eyes Sad Grin I take your point,however! Smiley I have placed my order,now!
8  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Fricker Symphonies Nos.1-4 on Lyrita on: October 06, 2017, 04:44:04 pm

That does it! I'll order it this evening! Roll Eyes Grin

Done!! Roll Eyes Grin
9  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Fricker Symphonies Nos.1-4 on Lyrita on: October 06, 2017, 04:20:25 pm
Fully agreed with Colin about Fricker. I also ordered the symphonies, but they are not in my mailbox yet. I have to be a little patient.
I went online last night to look at my customer account on a certain website,to see if a cd had been sent out. I also bought a s/h cd. A bit different from Peter Racine Fricker! Otis Redding: In Person at the Whisky a go go!! Unlike a certain other forum,we have very wide tastes in music here!! Grin I had a look to see if any deleted cd's,or dvd's,I have been unable to acquire (because sellers keep asking huge prices,or they don't seem to be available,at all) had become affordable.(I have a small list!) I noticed that the long delayed dvd release of the classic French movie,The Wages of Fear,looks as if it may finally be released by the BFI in October!! I've had this on pre-order for over a year!! My father is 85 now. I was hoping he might be able to see it again!! I am going to resist the Cpo release of Louis Glass for the time being...............but after reading these posts I don't think I will be able to resist the Fricker set!! It also seems wrong to do so!!

I notice Gramophone are letting you read their reviews,now (or,some of them!). Although,you could jab the 'Printscreen' button,before. They also have reviews of the recent Daniel Jones Lyrita releases,there.
10  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: New Richard Rodney Bennett Series on Chandos on: October 01, 2017, 02:52:29 pm
Interestingly,according to the September Chandos newsletter,this is Vol 1 of a new series. So,it's not just a belated continuation. Hopefully,this is also a sign that Chandos are returning to the adventurous spirit that made them such a great label,and their new release ad in Gramophone Magazine,one of the first port of call's for music lovers like me.
11  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Lyrita futures on: September 26, 2017, 04:27:28 pm
Two points:

a) Richard Itter seems to have had an eclectic taste in British music but also one that was rather eccentric: after making his recordings he seldom or, more usually, never listened to them again

b) You have never heard a note of Rosenberg!!! Sort that out, please! You will find him in the Swedish Downloads thread.
I'm downloading the Rosenberg,now. I think I did try these before. Obviously I didn't try hard enough,or I was in the wrong mood?!! (And the Atterberg Piano Concerto. Might as well,while I'm there!)

Downloaded! I think I may have downloaded from the Unsung Composers when it was,for a brief period,open to a wider range of music? With due respect to the providers,the poor sound didn't help. These are in excellent sound. I think I am going to enjoy these. Time to broaden my mind!! Grin Smiley
12  Little-known music of all eras / Downloads discussion / Re: British and Irish Music on: September 26, 2017, 04:17:02 pm
Really enjoyed Judith: maybe a bit long and rambling compared to Job, but some wonderful choruses and all very pleasant.
I'm looking forward to hearing this myself. I'll be getting some more cd-r's,first,though!
13  Little-known music of all eras / Downloads discussion / Re: British and Irish Music on: September 26, 2017, 03:12:13 pm
Indeed! Hours of listening pleasure. But don't forget Holst's choral music,vocal music and parts songs,either! But,one at a time!! VW,first! Grin Smiley
14  Various / Miscellany / Re: Idiotic Comments on Composers or Music! on: September 26, 2017, 02:11:56 pm
I suppose it's an age "thing"! But I'll admit,I do like the old fashioned kind of presenter,who just seemed to introduce a concert and fill you in with a few pertinent details about the composer and the composition. I don't need to know how delightful it is,or whether the composer lived to see the era of the Sex pistols,or Doris Day,for that matter! Grin They don't have to sound plummy,though!! Grin For that I can listen to the spoken introductions to some of the files uploaded to our music archive here.

I don't have a problem with popular music,I might add. I'm listening to the seventies (mainly) soul singer Millie Jackson at the moment! (No relation to Michael!!) Her album,Caught up, being regularly cited by critics as one of the greatest and most influential soul albums ever. I'm a big fan of her singing! Elvis.........not so much!! Roll Eyes Grin


I should point out that I don't mind the inclusion of some useful nuggets of information and input from someone with something genuinely interesting to say about a composer;or a snippet of an interesting interview. I remember a performance of Bush's Piano concerto (I taped it,I think the Piano Concerto is here?) with a snippet of John Amis talking about the composer,and how as a long standing communist and supporter of the Soviet Union,in a poignant interview with Amis,suffering from Alzheimers,he didn't even know that the iron curtain had fallen! Another instance. A snippet of Daniel Jones talking about Dylan Thomas (I think?) before a relay of one of his symphonies. Also,eading that Havergal Brian enjoyed The Beatles (I don't! Shocked Grin) I might add is interesting and amusing. It shows how open minded he was to new trends. Although,he didn't go as far as Malcolm Arnold and Deep Purple!! Grin I don't think he liked Elvis,though?!! Even if he did show some early promise,so much of his later output is so crass and vulgar! Roll Eyes I mean Elvis,not Brian,of course!! Grin
15  Various / Miscellany / Re: Idiotic Comments on Composers or Music! on: September 26, 2017, 01:42:28 pm
Haven't heard of Myleene Klass?!! Shocked Grin How fortunate!! Not that I'm a follower! She just seemed to be ubiquitous on every channel a while back;presenting various tv and radio shows. All you seemed to hear about was how clever she was and how she loved classical music,even playing classical piano herself. The BBC seemed particularly keen on promoting her. I did try to avoid her,by switching over;but she just seemed to pop up on the channel I was watching. Perhaps it's like that person you meet. You've never seen them before,but suddenly you seem to bump into them everywhere you go! Even if you don't like them! They seem to have lost interest in her lately,however! Although,I mustn't speak too soon!!

Alan Titchmarsh is another presenter who seems to pop up on classical music programs and has presented some concerts. He has a sideline in gardening,I gather!

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