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1  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Composers under National Socialism on: November 13, 2017, 03:23:20 pm
Given that the Swede Kurt Atterberg's Symphony No.7 was given its premiere in Frankfurt in 1943 I hardly think that the reputation of the Finnish giant of 20th century music is likely to suffer, especially since he had stopped composition by the time the Nazis came to power in Germany. Does any of this really matter now?
2  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Dyson Choral Symphony on Naxos - November 2017 on: November 12, 2017, 08:35:58 pm
Yes, I think that I agree with the general thrust of your assessment. The Choral Symphony is certainly attractive but it does not match the composer's later, more mature choral works. To argue, as Paul Spicer does in the cd booklet notes, that it could be an equal and alternative to the Vaughan Williams Sea Symphony is I think a little exaggerated. Worth hearing certainly but Dyson himself clearly had a higher estimate of his later music and was right to do so.
3  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Kalevi Aho Concerto for Soprano Saxophone and chamber orchestra on: November 07, 2017, 12:51:44 pm
Agree, same as with Aho's symphonies. Wiki states there're 17 at the moment, and 3 for chamber orchestra, BIS has to hurry to keep up!

....or of course Aho could always slow done on his production of concertos Grin    But that seems unkilely Grin
4  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Unrecorded British Post-War Concertos on: November 07, 2017, 01:33:24 am
Ruth Gipps's Violin Concertos

The Ruth Gipps Violin Concerto was written in 1943, so it lies outside the post-1945 period I specified. She did write a Concerto for Violin, Viola and small orchestra in 1957 but that is her only post-war unrecorded concerto. My list was of those composers who wrote five or more that have not made it to cd. There are a number of others-Arnold Cooke, Stanley Bate, Graham Whettam, William Mathias, William Wordsworth, Peter Racine Fricker who wrote three or four such unrecorded concertos.
5  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Unrecorded British Post-War Concertos on: November 07, 2017, 01:27:24 am
Yes, I mean not commercially recorded.
6  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Unrecorded British Post-War Concertos on: November 06, 2017, 10:38:59 pm
I made up a list (as I am prone to do Cheesy) of unrecorded concertos by British composers (deemed by me to be significant figures) and composed post-1945. The list numbered 115 concertos.

What struck me was that over half of that number were composed by nine people. (I have placed an * beside those which can be heard in off-air recordings- fortunately over half of them)

Sir Richard Rodney Bennett (11):

Horn Concerto (1956)
Oboe Concerto (1969-70) *
Guitar Concerto (1970) *
Viola Concerto (1973) *
Double Bass Concerto (1978) *
Harpsichord Concerto (1980) *
Clarinet  Concerto (1987) *
Saxophone Concerto (1988) *
Percussion Concerto (1990) *
Trumpet Concerto (1993) *
Bassoon Concerto (1994)

Alun Hoddinott (10):

Cello Concerto (1948)
Oboe Concerto (1955)
Violin Concerto No.1 (1960)
Piano Concerto No.3 (1966) *
Organ Concerto (1967) *
Concerto for Piano Trio (1985)
Violin Concerto No.2 (1995) *
Trumpet Concerto (1995) *
Percussion Concerto (1998) *
Trombone Concerto (2004) *

Wilfred Josephs (9)

Cello Concerto (1961-62) *
Piano Concerto No.1 (1965) *
Oboe Concerto (1967)
Double Violin Concerto (1969)
Piano Concerto No.2 (1971) *
Clarinet Concerto (1975) *
Viola Concerto (1983) *
Violin Concerto (1992)
Piano Concerto No.3 (1993-94)

John McCabe:  8

Violin Concerto No.1 (1959)
Oboe d'Amore Concerto (1972)
Piano Concerto No.3 (1976) *
Double Concerto for Oboe and Clarinet (1987-88) *
Violin Concerto No.2 (1980) *
Horn Concerto (2006) *
Cello Concerto (2007) *
Trumpet Concerto (2012) *

Robin Holloway (6)

Organ Concerto (1965-66)
Viola Concerto (1983-84) *
Bassoon Concerto (1985)
Double Concerto for Clarinet and Saxophone (1988)
Clarinet Concerto (1996)
Double Bass Concerto (1996)

Gordon Jacob (5)

Cello Concerto (1955) *
Oboe Concerto No.2 (1956)
Piano Concerto No.2 (1957) *
Organ Concerto (1975)
Flute Concerto No.2 (1981)

Iain Hamilton (5)

Clarinet Concerto !949-50)
Organ Concerto (1964)
Violin Concerto No.2 (1972) *
Piano Concerto No.2 (1987) *
Harp Concerto (1992)

Arthur Butterworth (5)

Organ Concerto (1966-73) *
Violin Concerto (1978)*
Trumpet Concerto (1992) *
Cello Concerto (1997)
Guitar Concerto (2000)

Malcolm Lipkin (5)

Violin Concerto No.1 (1951-52)
Piano Concerto (1959)
Violin Concerto No.2 (1960-62) *
Flute Concerto (1974)
Oboe Concerto (1988-89)






7  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Kalevi Aho Concerto for Soprano Saxophone and chamber orchestra on: November 06, 2017, 06:41:06 pm
I see that BIS is releasing the Aho Concerto for Soprano Saxophone and chamber orchestra (2014-15) next month. It is coupled with Aho's Quintet for oboe, clarinet, bassoon, horn and piano. The coupling is not ideal for someone who is not a fan of chamber music. I would have preferred one of the other thirteen concertos which Aho has wriiten but which have not yet made it onto disc:

Piano Concerto No.1 (1988-89)
Double Cello Concerto (2003) *
"Bells" for Saxophone Quartet and orchestra 2008) *
Trombone Concerto (2010; premiere March 2012) *
Trumpet Concerto (2011)
"Seidl"- Percussion Concerto (2011) *
Cello Concerto No.2 (2013)
Double Concerto for Cor Anglais and Harp (2014; premiere October 2016)
Timpani Concerto (2015; premiere April 2016)
Tenor Saxophone Concerto (2015; premiere March 2016)
Violin Concerto No.2 (2015; premiere November 2016)
Accordion Concerto (2015-16; premiere February 2017)
Double Bassoon Concerto (2016)

The problem for BIS is that Aho composes concertos faster than they can release them: five have been premiered during 2016-2017. Four of the earlier concertos are available in off-air recordings (*) but the Cello Concerto No.2 is an intriguing gap.
8  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: McCabe Symphony no. 6 on: November 06, 2017, 01:24:04 pm
McCabe's Sixth is not the only of his symphonies to suffer neglect or to deserve to be commercially recorded (so too does his Third for example) but it is his least known. The reason is that the Symphony on a Pavane-as it is also titled- has only, to my knowledge, been performed once. That was in a concert in London given by the London Philharmonic conducted by Steven Sloane. For some reason the BBC chose not to broadcast the concert. Thus the McCabe 6th is one of a tiny handful of symphonies by leading British composers for which we do not even have an off-air recording.

The only other mature symphonies I can think of which fall into this category would be Arnold Cooke's 2nd and Anthony Milner's 3rd. Wordsworth's 6th has never even been performed
9  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Composers under National Socialism on: November 04, 2017, 11:59:13 pm
God Help Us Sad In Nazi Germany they burned books Angry Any talk of burning musical scores fills me with total and utter horror!! That is anathema in a civilised society. Have we really lost all sense of proportion?
10  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Coke Piano Concertos (Hyperion RPC Vol. 73) - November 2017 on: November 03, 2017, 06:25:28 pm
Without really hoping for much or indeed anything significantly different from the sort of music suggested by those who had already heard it I bought the cd and have listened to it.

Decidedly not my sort of music. Pleasant, amiable, rambling, romantic, sub-Rachmaninov. If you like this sort of thing then you will like it. There are many other British piano concertos-quite a few not yet on cd- which I would prefer to have.

....so why buy it? If one does not support record companies prepared to go out on a limb to record unfamiliar repertoire then one cannot expect them to record the music I would prefer. I don't see that as negative. I don't find the Coke piano concertos interesting let alone gripping but I applaud Hyperion nevertheless.
11  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Philip Sawyers (1951-) on: October 31, 2017, 01:57:51 am
Wholly agree  Smiley
12  Little-known music of all eras / Coming broadcasts and listen-later links / Re: Gordon Crosse: Symphony No. 3 "Between Despair and Dawn" (world premiere) on: October 30, 2017, 10:49:44 pm
........but what a strange work the Crosse Symphony No.3.

I am not sure that the Amplified Guitar really adds anything to it. Crosse gave up composing music between 1990 and around 2007 to concentrate on music technology and computer programming. This symphony was written between 2010 and 2011. Does it work? I am not sure.

....but at least it can be heard and a judgment formed.
13  Little-known music of all eras / Coming broadcasts and listen-later links / Re: Gordon Crosse: Symphony No. 3 "Between Despair and Dawn" (world premiere) on: October 30, 2017, 10:01:03 pm
I can upload it later today. Jim

That was very kind of you Thanks
14  Little-known music of all eras / Coming broadcasts and listen-later links / Re: Gordon Crosse: Symphony No. 3 "Between Despair and Dawn" (world premiere) on: October 30, 2017, 08:32:12 pm
Did anyone record the Gordon Crosse? It would be nice to have it available here 
15  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Three British Violin Concertos from Naxos on: October 30, 2017, 12:39:43 am
In December Naxos will release a disc containing Paul Patterson's Serenade for Violin and Orchestra (Violin Concerto No.2) (2013), Gordon Jacob's Concerto for Violin and String Orchestra (1953) and Kenneth Leighton's Concerto for Violin and Small Orchestra (1952).

https://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/classical/products/8367375--british-violin-concertos

The Jacob and the Leighton were on my list of unrecorded British Violin Concertos- a list which numbered 27 such concertos and is now reduced to 25 Smiley
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