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1  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Johann Strauss II, Blindekuh and the other operettas on: April 28, 2020, 10:13:50 am
There is some lovely music here.

Indeed there is! I remember when I was collecting the Marco Polo Edition being particularly excited when a volume contained a dance arrangement from one of the more unfamiliar operettas (there are an average of five from each work, usually a splendid waltz, a quadrille, a French polka, a polka-mazurka and a quick polka). The performances were always good although sometimes the tempi adopted for the quadrilles might be questioned... Back in the 1980s it was impossible to predict that so much Johann Strauss I, Johann Strauss II, Josef Strauss, Eduard Strauss, Carl Michael Ziehrer, etc. would be recorded.

2  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Johann Strauss II, Blindekuh and the other operettas on: April 27, 2020, 11:48:20 am
With the very welcome Naxos release of Strauss's Blindekuh (1878), the number of his operettas complete on disc continues to expand - a great chance to explore the little-known works apart from the usual (magnificent) suspects Die Fledermaus, Eine Nacht in Venedig and Der Zigeunerbaron. I have tried to compile a list of recommendations for the more obscure scores below (highlighted in bold), omitting the three works already mentioned:

Indigo und die vierzig Rauber [Indigo and the Forty Thieves] (1871) - no complete recording at present

Der Carneval in Rom [Carnival in Rome] (1873) - CPO 777 405-2

Die Fledermaus [The Bat] (1874) - various

Cagliostro in Wien [Cagliostro in Vienna] (1875) - no complete recording at present

Prinz Methusalem [Prince Methusalem] (1877) - CPO 777 747-2

Blindekuh [Blind-Man's Buff] (1878) - Naxos 8.660434-35

Das Spitzentuch der Konigin [The Queen's Lace Handkerchief] (1880) - CPO 777 406-2

Der lustige Krieg [The Merry War] (1881) - no complete recording at present (I think an ORF broadcast was available at some point)

Eine Nacht in Venedig [A Night in Venice] (1883) - various

Der Zigeunerbaron [The Gypsy Baron] (1885) - various

Simplicius (1887) - originally EMI Classics 7243 5 57009 2 6, now in a 10-disc Warner box 9846642

Furstin Ninetta [Princess Ninetta] (1893) - Naxos 8.660227-28

Jabuka (1894) - Naxos 8.660216-17

Waldmeister [Woodruff] (1895) - no complete recording at present although the website of the Johann Strauss Society of Great Britain states that "Johann Strauss's operetta Waldmeister is being recorded in January 2020 for release in 2021"

Die Gottin der Vernunft [The Goddess of Reason] (1897) - Naxos 8.660280-81

Please feel free to offer corrections (additional performances may be available on Youtube for example) as well as personal recommendations for the three more well-known works...

3  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Stanley Bate (1911-1959) on: April 19, 2020, 10:24:09 am
There are a few chamber works by Bate which have been recorded:

Flute Sonata, Op.11 (1937), in a mixed British programme - Willowhayne Records MPR101

Violin Sonata No.1, Op.47 (1946), on an otherwise all-Arnell disc - Toccata Classics TOCC0492

There is also the Cello Concerto (1953), coupled with the Bax Cello Concerto - Lyrita SRCD 351

4  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Havergal Brian's "Faust" on: April 18, 2020, 09:54:13 pm
As for Prometheus, I think it has always been hoped that the full score would turn up some day, but it's not looking hopeful, sixty years after it disappeared. It seems it would be a very big job, that the orchestra was very important. Still I imagine that a reconstruction has been seriously considered.

Given John Pickard's quite amazing re-orchestration of The Vision of Cleopatra (1907) as recorded by Dutton, such things are clearly possible in theory but in light of the sheer scale of Prometheus Unbound even if the original autograph surfaced the task of editing and making orchestral parts would probably necessitate a substantial grant from the National Lottery (some hope)! In the meantime it is incredibly fortuitous that Faust was recorded before the current lock-down crisis...

5  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Ruth Gipps on Chandos on: April 18, 2020, 09:43:57 pm
The 4th Symphony was greatly admired by Arthur Bliss, no mean judge having previously been on the "reading panel" at the BBC. Certainly the splendid recent performance of the 3rd under Rumon Gamba (see the archive) leads me to hope that his close relationship with Chandos may bring about a commercial release for this extremely attractive score. Incidentally, it is easy to overlook the fact that her very fine Horn Concerto is available on an enterprising multi-composer Lyrita disc -

6  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Stanley Bate (1911-1959) on: April 18, 2020, 09:27:09 pm
Piano Concerto No.3 (1951-52) is in the British and Irish Music archive, splendidly played by the composer under Guy Harrison - it is well worth a modern revival. I don't know of any off-air recordings of the violin concertos but I suspect that they would be equally rewarding.

7  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Ruth Gipps on Chandos on: April 15, 2020, 02:16:16 am
The 3rd and 5th symphonies are both in the British and Irish Music archive. The former is one of her strongest pieces IMHO with some fantastic orchestral scoring for tuned percussion. Explore!

8  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: British Clarinet Concertos on: April 15, 2020, 02:11:21 am
Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seconded! Walthew and Gipps - more please. I hope for the latter's 3rd and 5th symphonies from Chandos with Rumon Gamba...

9  Little-known music of all eras / Downloads discussion / Re: British and Irish Music on: April 13, 2020, 10:31:28 am
The many items "recently" donated by generous members are now in the archive and the catalogue is up to date again: these include broadcasts of works by Sally Beamish, James MacMillan, Huw Watkins, James Dillon and John Joubert. Many thanks.

Please could members with an interest keep an eye on the radio listings for anything of import. Afternoon on 3 is often a happy hunting ground...

10  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Re: Cipriani Potter (1792-1871) on: April 13, 2020, 09:11:41 am
Thanks, Beorn!

11  Little-known music of all eras / Discussion of obscure composers / Cipriani Potter (1792-1871) on: April 11, 2020, 12:21:43 pm
In view of the perplexing numbering of Potter's symphonies I have added the following note (in bold below) to my listing on Wikipedia. Please could members judge if it makes sense?!?

Potter seems to have adopted two separate and contradictory systems for the numbering of his symphonies, of which nine are extant: one based on the order of composition (hence those styled 1, 6, 7, 8 and 10) and another based on key (hence the G minor symphony of 1832 is also styled number 2, i.e. the second G minor symphony whilst the two D major symphonies are styled numbers 2 and 4, i.e. the second and fourth D major symphonies). Thus it is possible to surmise that several works, including both a first and a third D major symphony, were lost or destroyed. This has led to considerable confusion which the following list seeks to clarify by adopting a simple chronology.

Symphony [No. 1] in G minor (1819, revised 182426) [styled No. 1 by the composer]
Symphony [No. 2] in B♭ major (1821, revised 1839) [unnumbered by the composer]
Symphony [No. 3] in C minor (1826) [styled No. 6 by the composer]
Symphony [No. 4] in F major (1826) [styled No. 7 by the composer]
Symphony [No. 5] in E♭ major (1828, revised with replacement slow movement 1846) [styled No. 8 by the composer]
Symphony [No. 6] in G minor (1832) [styled both No. 10 and No. 2 by the composer]
Symphony [No. 7] in D major (1833) [styled No. 2 by the composer]
Symphony [No. 8] in C minor (1834) [unnumbered by the composer]
Symphony [No. 9] in D major (1834) [styled No. 4 by the composer]

12  Little-known music of all eras / Downloads discussion / Re: British and Irish Music on: April 10, 2020, 10:59:07 am
There is an mp3 in the archive of yesterday's BBC broadcast of Cipriani Potter's Symphony No.1 in G minor (1819-26) given by the BBC National Orchestra of Wales conducted by Howard Griffiths. Seven of Potter's nine extant symphonies can now be heard in either commercial recordings or non-commercial BBC broadcasts:

a. commercial recordings

F major (1826), E flat major (1828), G minor (1832) - the first on Classico (2005), the latter two on Unicorn-Kanchana (1989)

b. BBC broadcasts

G minor (1819/ 26), C minor (1826), C minor (1834), D major (1834) [those in F major (1826), E flat major (1828) and G minor (1832) were also broadcast in 1995]

leaving those in B flat major (1821) and D major (1833) unrecorded.

The best readily available sources for information on Potter's symphonies remain A. Peter Brown's The Symphonic Repertoire Volume III Part B (2008) and Jurgen Schaarwachter's Two Centuries of British Symphonism: From the beginnings to 1945 Volume I (2015).
13  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Re: Havergal Brian's "Faust" on: April 09, 2020, 01:57:43 am
Yes, I can confirm that it has been recorded for Dutton. Sessions took place at Abbey Road between 27th and 30th August last year:

14  Little-known music of all eras / New recordings / Havergal Brian's "Faust" on: April 08, 2020, 03:51:49 pm
Martyn Brabbins and ENO forces have recorded Brian's large-scale opera Faust (1955-56) complete. I don't know which record label is involved, but given the issue of the reconstructed Vision of Cleopatra with the same team it may be Dutton.

Apologies if this information has been already posted! This will be a significant addition to our knowledge of the composer in theatrical mode, something which The Tigers (in the splendid BBC recording released on Testament) has shown well worthy of exploration and celebration...

15  Little-known music of all eras / Coming broadcasts and listen-later links / Re: Cipriani Potter Symphony No.1 on: April 05, 2020, 05:17:21 pm
but then they are so ignorant at R3 they probably think he only wrote one symphony. They couldn't even get his name right - Cipriano on their website!

Doh! The listing simply says "Symphony No.1" without any key designated. Presumably the BBC still holds the parts made for those broadcasts back in 1995, together with The Tempest overture - then again, they've probably managed to lose or misfile them...

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