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Title: Zaborov Symphony No. 1
Post by: rkhenderson on August 26, 2020, 05:55:58 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H37_mOfO_Hg&list=OLAK5uy_kfduV9rRzIy8Y6x1owB7oMBkFnjnJ-lYo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H37_mOfO_Hg&list=OLAK5uy_kfduV9rRzIy8Y6x1owB7oMBkFnjnJ-lYo)


Title: Re: Zaborov Symphony No. 1
Post by: gabriel on September 07, 2020, 12:00:01 am
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Symphony No. 1 is from Parsadanian.
Zaborov's work is David de Sassoun, I suppose a symphonic poem that refers to a hero from Armenian history from the 8th century (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_of_Sassoun)

I think the reference page http://www.musicweb-international.com/Ntl_discogs/Russian_symphonies/Russian_Symphonies_SZ.pdf
is also wrong.


Title: Re: Zaborov Symphony No. 1
Post by: Holger on September 07, 2020, 07:04:19 am
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Symphony No. 1 is from Parsadanian.
Zaborov's work is David de Sassoun, I suppose a symphonic poem that refers to a hero from Armenian history from the 8th century (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_of_Sassoun)

I think the reference page http://www.musicweb-international.com/Ntl_discogs/Russian_symphonies/Russian_Symphonies_SZ.pdf
is also wrong.


No, you are wrong, it's all completely right. I also have Parsadanian's Symphony No. 1 and it's a different work (including a solo soprano, for instance). Svetlanov did record Parsadanian's Symphonies Nos. 1&2 but they are not included in the Melodiya box. However, Parsadanian did write a piece called "David of Sassoun", Epic Poem for Orchestra (1949), which is the one recorded here. And the symphony is by Zaborov.


Title: Re: Zaborov Symphony No. 1
Post by: christopher on September 07, 2020, 02:20:04 pm
What are the composers' dates?


Title: Re: Zaborov Symphony No. 1
Post by: gabriel on September 07, 2020, 05:33:59 pm
Holger: Thank you very much for your valuable information.
Thanks to it, I have been able to decipher the mystery.
The link says "Zaborov Symphony 1"; however it leads to a 17.38 work with the structure of a symphonic poem.
Since it does not include the symphony, I assumed that the Russian CD was completed with Parsadanianīs and the SP was by Zaborov.

Now I see that the correct name of this link should be: "Parsadanian: David of Sassoun, Epic Poem for Orchestra (1949)".

Unfortunately I will still not know the Zaborov symphony.
My best wishes.


Title: Re: Zaborov Symphony No. 1
Post by: rkhenderson on September 07, 2020, 06:56:00 pm
The individual links to the Zaborov symphony are there -this link is part of a series of playlists to CDs in the Svetlanov Anthology that can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2t2tkvvesjw-1az-D4-hLg (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2t2tkvvesjw-1az-D4-hLg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-9ct4gYWC4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-9ct4gYWC4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoRgF8zr9jE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoRgF8zr9jE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqO2kxnqUbM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqO2kxnqUbM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UrGJJ3gGIc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UrGJJ3gGIc)

There are other rare works by Komaneyets, Mazayev, etc.


Title: Re: Zaborov Symphony No. 1
Post by: gabriel on September 07, 2020, 07:39:02 pm
Thank you all!!


Title: Re: Zaborov Symphony No. 1
Post by: christopher on September 08, 2020, 01:25:48 pm
Was there a "Symphonic Music 1"?


Title: Re: Zaborov Symphony No. 1
Post by: Holger on September 08, 2020, 02:32:53 pm
Was there a "Symphonic Music 1"?

Yes, certainly:
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/anthology-of-russian-symphonic-music-vol-1/hnum/6654165 (https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/anthology-of-russian-symphonic-music-vol-1/hnum/6654165)

Actually, there was even a Vol. 3 (shorter and devoted to vocal symphonic music):
https://www.amazon.de/Anthologie-Russischer-Musik-State-Academic/dp/B079B8RHMB (https://www.amazon.de/Anthologie-Russischer-Musik-State-Academic/dp/B079B8RHMB)

P.S. As you can see in Mike Herman's discography which Gabriel linked to above, Zaborov lived from 1929 to 1985.


Title: Re: Zaborov Symphony No. 1
Post by: rkhenderson on September 08, 2020, 07:40:34 pm
Does anyone know when Zaborov Symphony No. 1 was written?
Robert


Title: Re: Zaborov Symphony No. 1
Post by: Holger on September 08, 2020, 09:04:47 pm
No, I tried to find out a while ago but with no success. Even the date of the recording gives no clue because it was made after Zaborov's death if I remember correctly. Likewise, it is difficult to compile even some basic facts about Zaborov's life and work. The liner notes of the Svetlanov box just mention "Grigory Zaborov, a composer, violinist and concertmaster of the USSR Bolshoi Theatre", and that's basically already all we know about him.


Title: Re: Zaborov Symphony No. 1
Post by: Christo on September 13, 2020, 09:21:30 pm
The individual links to the Zaborov symphony are there -this link is part of a series of playlists to CDs in the Svetlanov Anthology that can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2t2tkvvesjw-1az-D4-hLg (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2t2tkvvesjw-1az-D4-hLg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-9ct4gYWC4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-9ct4gYWC4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoRgF8zr9jE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoRgF8zr9jE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqO2kxnqUbM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqO2kxnqUbM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UrGJJ3gGIc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UrGJJ3gGIc)

There are other rare works by Komaneyets, Mazayev, etc.


Title: Re: Zaborov Symphony No. 1
Post by: christopher on September 14, 2020, 11:24:45 am
The individual links to the Zaborov symphony are there -this link is part of a series of playlists to CDs in the Svetlanov Anthology that can be found here:
There are other rare works by Komaneyets, Mazayev, etc.

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Title: Re: Zaborov Symphony No. 1
Post by: Christo on September 17, 2020, 06:05:18 pm
The individual links to the Zaborov symphony are there -this link is part of a series of playlists to CDs in the Svetlanov Anthology that can be found here:
There are other rare works by Komaneyets, Mazayev, etc.

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Title: Re: Zaborov Symphony No. 1
Post by: christopher on September 18, 2020, 01:11:11 pm
The individual links to the Zaborov symphony are there -this link is part of a series of playlists to CDs in the Svetlanov Anthology that can be found here:
https://ww w.youtube.com/channel/UC2t2tkvvesjw-1az-D4-hLg
https://ww w.youtube.com/watch?v=R-9ct4gYWC4
https://ww w.youtube.com/watch?v=uoRgF8zr9jE
https://ww w.youtube.com/watch?v=xqO2kxnqUbM
https://ww w.youtube.com/watch?v=5UrGJJ3gGIc
There are other rare works by Komaneyets, Mazayev, etc.

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Hi Christo - You simply re-posted a previous post without adding anything, so I was wondering if you had meant to say something?


Title: Re: Zaborov Symphony No. 1
Post by: JimL on October 06, 2020, 03:08:55 pm
I cannot describe the idiom of this work, other than that it's vaguely tonal, perhaps polytonal, with no set key of the work as a whole that I can determine, doesn't fall within the purview of Socialist Realism, and that I LIKE IT!


Title: Re: Zaborov Symphony No. 1
Post by: gabriel on October 12, 2020, 02:43:57 am
I have written to various places in Russia requesting information on the "composer, violinist and concertmaster of the USSR Bolshoi Theatre" Grigory Zaborov (1929-85): Melodiya, the Bolshoi Theatre, The Svetlanov International Conducting Competition, etc.
In some I had answers and in others I did not. The most interesting came from the Museum of the Bolshoi Theater, who informed me that the choir artist Irina Nikolaevna Parfenova published the book "The Bolshoi Theater in the Biographies of Musicians", which contains an article on Zaborov.
The BT Museum staff sent me a photograph of the aforementioned article. If someone can translate from Cyrillic we will have info on the obscure composer.

As I canīt upload the images, I am sending them to Holger. Maybe he knows how to do it. (Thank you a lot for receiving them!)


Title: Re: Zaborov Symphony No. 1
Post by: Holger on October 12, 2020, 06:48:40 pm
The scans Gabriel spoke of can be accessed here:
https://www.mediafire.com/view/7sxwi4qer3lxu8b/IMG_9916.jpg/file
https://www.mediafire.com/view/292ybos3fm3mndm/IMG_9917.jpg/file

I do not speak Russian myself, but nevertheless, as far as I understand this article does provide some biographic information on Zaborov (for instance, he seems to have been a student of Myaskovsky, he was violinist in the orchestra of the Bolshoi theatre from 1950 until 1985, from 1965 as concert master, there seems to be a list of ballets in which he played violin solos, he also had a son, Igor, who lived from 1952 until 2015 and played the violin and composed himself etc.). However, the article does not seem to mention the symphony. Anyway, many thanks to Gabriel for doing research on him! :)