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Title: Concerto for Dombra and Symphony orchestra by Savr Kataev
Post by: Toby Esterhase on October 21, 2018, 05:43:21 pm
IMHO energetic and full of Kazakh folksy resonances.
https://youtu.be/1nEgG7OUJ4E
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B5%D0%B2,_%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%80_%D0%92%D1%8F%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87


Title: Re: Concerto for Dombra and Symphony orchestra by Savr Kataev
Post by: calyptorhynchus on October 22, 2018, 08:39:27 pm
Just think, I have lived all these years without knowing what a dombra was!


Title: Re: Concerto for Dombra and Symphony orchestra by Savr Kataev
Post by: Toby Esterhase on October 22, 2018, 11:14:40 pm
Just think, I have lived all these years without knowing what a dombra was!
Dear calyptorhynchus
This is:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dombra
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Title: Re: Concerto for Dombra and Symphony orchestra by Savr Kataev
Post by: Neil McGowan on October 23, 2018, 09:50:31 am
There are nomenclature issues with the dombra. While the Bashkir or Kalmykh dombras are three-string long-neck lutes - whose origins are probably in Turkic traditions - there is also a Ukrainian instrument (known as the dombra too) which is a four-string guitar-shaped instrument, strung (and tuned) like a violin.  In fact some uncharitable people have called the Ukranian dombra "a concert balalaika, for violinists to play".  When tuned like this, the dombra becomes a  kind of stand-in for a mandolin, and there are many players who play baroque mandolin concerti on it.


Title: Re: Concerto for Dombra and Symphony orchestra by Savr Kataev
Post by: Toby Esterhase on October 23, 2018, 12:31:52 pm
There are nomenclature issues with the dombra. While the Bashkir or Kalmykh dombras are three-string long-neck lutes - whose origins are probably in Turkic traditions - there is also a Ukrainian instrument (known as the dombra too) which is a four-string guitar-shaped instrument, strung (and tuned) like a violin.  In fact some uncharitable people have called the Ukranian dombra "a concert balalaika, for violinists to play".  When tuned like this, the dombra becomes a  kind of stand-in for a mandolin, and there are many players who play baroque mandolin concerti on it.
Dear McGowan
Thank for clarification.Obviously Wikipedia page is on kazakh instrument
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Title: Re: Concerto for Dombra and Symphony orchestra by Savr Kataev
Post by: Neil McGowan on October 23, 2018, 11:21:39 pm
You;re welcome!  I only happen to know this stuff since I once had to score some arrangements for solo (Ukrainian) dom(b)ra & string orchestra, and I wanted to know as much as possible about the dombra's specifics.

In fact Wikipedia is often inconsistent between acticles (naturally so, since there is no single author or editor)

Theiir page giving the tunings of all stringed instruments (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stringed_instrument_tunings) lists both the domBra and also the domra (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domra) on whose (separate) page the 4-string tuning (and its similarity to violins and mandolins) is mentioned. 

It's a pity the domBra page makes no mention of the other instrument, even by way of clarification. Here in Russia, the domra is a popular instrument in schools - as it makes a starting point for the violin, for those who have the patrience and enthusiais :-))

When I was at the Pokrovsky Chamber Opera last year for their production of DSCH's THE NOSE,  I noticed that the fiddle players nobly put down their violins as marked in the score - but instead of picking up triangular balaklaikas (as Shostakovich marked), they all used domras instead. Only the purest of purists might quibble? 


Title: Re: Concerto for Dombra and Symphony orchestra by Savr Kataev
Post by: Toby Esterhase on October 24, 2018, 12:46:06 am
Dear Mc Gowan
You are right.Russian Wikipedia also has two different pages:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B0
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%BC%D1%80%D0%B0
My russian is scarce,meanwhile i noticed the first is :"Домбра", second is "Домра"
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