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Title: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: northern on April 20, 2016, 08:33:21 am
https://www.youtube.com/results?sp=CAI%253D&search_query=james+stuart&page=1

Back in the last month with interesting mix of film music and radio broadcasts.


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: magmasystems on April 20, 2016, 12:17:21 pm
Thanks for this. Coincidentally, one of my Google Alerts fired today showing me that he added Ragnar Solderlind's Symphony No. 4 to YouTube.

If there is any way to get in touch with Mr. Stuart, i wonder if there is a possibility that he might rip this concert to MP3 or FLAC, and share it with the members here?


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: BrianA on May 28, 2016, 08:28:10 am
The inimitable Mr Stuart has done it again!  Among recent additions are Derek Bourgeois' Symphonies 3, 5, and 8, a selection of John Veale orchestral works, including the premiere performance of the violin concerto, the premiere radio broadcast of Malcolm Williamson's fifth symphony, the premiere performance of Rubbra's symphony no 11, etc, etc.  While I haven't checked closely, I suspect (am sure, in fact) that at least some of these performances duplicate performances already available in our archive, but not all! (See the Bourgeois symphonies referenced above.)  Well worth checking out!

Brian


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: cilgwyn on May 28, 2016, 11:12:06 am
Thank for the info/link,BrianA! High time a cd label recorded one of his symphonies;the 'Wine Symphony' in particular,could be quite popular with music lovers,given a chance. Approacheable music,but not in the obvious way. What a great idea for a symphony. It's just waiting to be recorded. I seem to remember hearing it on the radio a few times back in the 80's. Can't believe it's still unrecorded;but sadly not exactly surprised! I thought the Philip Jones Brass ensemble (have I got their name right?) recorded an arrangement,though;or parts of it? Am I right,or wrong about this? I'm not usually into that kind of thing (Holst aside) but they were rather good weren't they? They seemed to get allot of attention for a while. I'd forgotten about them until now. I think they did 'Pictures at an Exhibition',too? I would look them up,but I don't want to be tempted into buying more cds. I've spent enough this month!! :o :( ;D


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: Dundonnell on May 28, 2016, 02:43:02 pm
The inimitable Mr Stuart has done it again!  Among recent additions are Derek Bourgeois' Symphonies 3, 5, and 8, a selection of John Veale orchestral works, including the premiere performance of the violin concerto, the premiere radio broadcast of Malcolm Williamson's fifth symphony, the premiere performance of Rubbra's symphony no 11, etc, etc.  While I haven't checked closely, I suspect (am sure, in fact) that at least some of these performances duplicate performances already available in our archive, but not all! (See the Bourgeois symphonies referenced above.)  Well worth checking out!

Brian

What a super surprise :) It seems to be quite a long time since we had much in the way of "new" British music uploads and the YT additions are splendid-four Bourgeois symphonies (three from James Stuart-Nos.3, 5 and 8-and No.6 from another contrubuter), the Whettam Cello Concerto, two works by Alan Bush, Anthony Milner's Chamber Symphony, two works by John Veale-the Demos Variations and 'Kubla Khan').

Good way to start the weekend ;D


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: mjkFendrich on May 28, 2016, 04:37:57 pm
@Dundonnell:

  ... and don't miss Veale's violin concerto - I've compared it with the Chandos recording,
Erich Gruenberg is at least as good as Lydia Mordkovitch, if not better.


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: Dundonnell on May 28, 2016, 07:16:24 pm
@Dundonnell:

  ... and don't miss Veale's violin concerto - I've compared it with the Chandos recording,
Erich Gruenberg is at least as good as Lydia Mordkovitch, if not better.

Thanks, yes...I had only listed the works completely new to me but there are other treasures amongst these new uploads :)


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: Dundonnell on May 28, 2016, 07:54:40 pm
Hmmmm......I am not sure that James Stuart has in fact posted the Symphony No.8 "The Mountains of Mallorca".

Derek Bourgeois's own catalogue of his music indiicates that the work is 73 minutes long. There is a version for wind band which has been recorded by the "Royal Symphonic Band of the Belgian Guides" but, again, Bourgeois says that this is 77 minutes long. What we have from James Stuart is 23 minutes in duration.

Anyone have any ideas ???


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: relm1 on May 28, 2016, 08:20:10 pm
Hmmmm......I am not sure that James Stuart has in fact posted the Symphony No.8 "The Mountains of Mallorca".

Derek Bourgeois's own catalogue of his music indiicates that the work is 73 minutes long. There is a version for wind band which has been recorded by the "Royal Symphonic Band of the Belgian Guides" but, again, Bourgeois says that this is 77 minutes long. What we have from James Stuart is 23 minutes in duration.

Anyone have any ideas ???

The work identified as Symphony No. 8 is in fact Symphony No. 1.


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: BrianA on May 28, 2016, 10:36:02 pm

The work identified as Symphony No. 8 is in fact Symphony No. 1.

Well that was quick!  Thanks so much for the correct identification!

Brian


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: Dundonnell on May 29, 2016, 12:03:19 am
Indeed! Thank you very much :)


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: BrianA on May 29, 2016, 02:35:29 am

The work identified as Symphony No. 8 is in fact Symphony No. 1.

On further consideration this raises another potentially vexing question: if the work itself has been misidentified, is it possible that the performers have also been misidentified?    :-\

Brian


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: relm1 on May 29, 2016, 03:55:32 pm
My understanding is that only symphonies 1 through 7 have ever been performed in orchestral version.  I understand symphony no. 1 was only performed once.  The premiere performance where I assume this archival recording came from took place on St Cecilia’s day (November 21) 1961 by City of Birmingham Symphony, David Wilcocks.


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: Dundonnell on May 29, 2016, 05:34:18 pm
My understanding is that only symphonies 1 through 7 have ever been performed in orchestral version.  I understand symphony no. 1 was only performed once.  The premiere performance where I assume this archival recording came from took place on St Cecilia’s day (November 21) 1961 by City of Birmingham Symphony, David Wilcocks.

That sounds not only plausible but convincing.


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: Dundonnell on May 30, 2016, 02:22:50 am
More from James Stuart :)

Four pieces by Humphrey Searle completely new to me (Poem for 22 strings, Scena "Oxus" for high voice and orchestra, Highland Fling and Suite from the Opera "Hamlet")-not "big" works but they all add to our knowledge of this (sometimes) difficult but fine composer.

(I sometimes wonder why I am more "tolerant" or am certainly prepared to put in more effort with composers who have composed at least one or two works with which I am fully in sympathy ;D Searle and Iain Hamilton ae perfect examples. I adore Searle's First and Second Symphonies...........ergo I am more than ready to listen to the rest of his music and find it-at least-interesting.)

Plus Leonard Salzedo's Symphony No.2 (in a barely listenable-to recording) and what sounds like a good Viola Concerto by that same composer.

.........and some Dutch, Swedish and Estonian music too, I find-including Sixten Eckerberg's Symphony "Pastorale" which is actually not Beethoven's No. 6.....although I thought it was at first ;D


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: Gauk on June 01, 2016, 06:24:39 pm

(I sometimes wonder why I am more "tolerant" or am certainly prepared to put in more effort with composers who have composed at least one or two works with which I am fully in sympathy ;D Searle and Iain Hamilton ae perfect examples. I adore Searle's First and Second Symphonies...........ergo I am more than ready to listen to the rest of his music and find it-at least-interesting.)


Searle's first two symphonies are of a piece with the rest of his output - quite demanding to listen to. But yes, I still have the old LP of these two fine works.


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: Dundonnell on June 01, 2016, 06:55:23 pm

(I sometimes wonder why I am more "tolerant" or am certainly prepared to put in more effort with composers who have composed at least one or two works with which I am fully in sympathy ;D Searle and Iain Hamilton ae perfect examples. I adore Searle's First and Second Symphonies...........ergo I am more than ready to listen to the rest of his music and find it-at least-interesting.)


Searle's first two symphonies are of a piece with the rest of his output - quite demanding to listen to. But yes, I still have the old LP of these two fine works.

I am not sure that I quite agree.....but of course it is a matter of personal response. I find the first two symphonies works of immense and, frequently, terrifying power and intensity where as the other three I find complex, difficult and make therefore much less of a visceral impact on me. I can admire but seldom have any real impulse to return to them.

Nos. 1 and 2 are amongst my favourite 20th century symphonies. The slow movement of No.2 is a perfect match of Searle's twelve-note technique and the romanticism he always insisted characterised his style. It builds to the most shattering of climaxes! No.1 is, throughout, a work of imperious power and violence. The fact that Sir Adrian Boult's amazing recording of the work for Decca has never-as far as I know-been released on cd is a long-standing disgrace.


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: Gauk on June 02, 2016, 10:31:40 pm
Earlier today I took advantage of the Bourgeois postings on this channel to listen to the first symphony. Those involved in the performance can hardly have imagined the composer would go on to break the record for number of symphonies! It is interesting to compare this first symphony with Bourgeois's recent works. Number 1 has an obvious heavy debt to Walton, not found in the later works, but I think there are still detectable common stylistic traits - the quirkiness (like the reference to the Rite of Spring towards the end of the second movement), some characteristics of the orchestration, and a tendency to arrange material in blocks.


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel - derek bourgeois
Post by: Jolly Roger on June 16, 2016, 09:28:40 am
Earlier today I took advantage of the Bourgeois postings on this channel to listen to the first symphony. Those involved in the performance can hardly have imagined the composer would go on to break the record for number of symphonies! It is interesting to compare this first symphony with Bourgeois's recent works. Number 1 has an obvious heavy debt to Walton, not found in the later works, but I think there are still detectable common stylistic traits - the quirkiness (like the reference to the Rite of Spring towards the end of the second movement), some characteristics of the orchestration, and a tendency to arrange material in blocks.
His first 6 symphonies can be selected with one click:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Derek+Bourgeois%3A+Symphony+No
catalogue of works here:
http://www.derekbourgeois.com/catalogu.htm
and much much more here
http://www.scoreexchange.com/search?q=Derek+Bourgeois




Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: cjvinthechair on July 28, 2016, 02:40:02 pm
Another excellent selection of John McCabe uploads on the Channel today.


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: Dundonnell on July 29, 2016, 03:21:58 am
Another excellent selection of John McCabe uploads on the Channel today.

Some very welcome additions-the Concerto for Chamber Orchestra(1962/68), the Symphony for Ten Wind Instruments(1964), the Suite "The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe"(1971), the Ballet Suite No.1 "Mary Queen of Scots" (1976), the Jubilee Suite (1977) and "Music's Empire" (1981) were all new to me (not on cd or in our British Music Archive here).
Also a large number of alternative performances of many of the works otherwise available.

I had hoped for the Piano Concerto No.3 "Dialogues" (1976/77) or some of the big choral works but sadly these were not amongst the collection. And of course the Symphony No.6 (Symphony on a Pavane) has not, I think, been performed again after its (unbroadcast) premiere.

We are however once again in very considerable debt to James Stuart's generosity in sharing so much of his collection :)


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: northern on July 29, 2016, 11:01:35 am
The John McCabe Piano Concerto No.3 has been uploaded on TheMudfinger channel, and James Stuart has provided the performance details in the comments box, so presumably he either hasn't got it to post, or sees no point in uploading it again.


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: Dundonnell on July 29, 2016, 02:20:41 pm
The John McCabe Piano Concerto No.3 has been uploaded on TheMudfinger channel, and James Stuart has provided the performance details in the comments box, so presumably he either hasn't got it to post, or sees no point in uploading it again.

Thank you very much indeed for that information :)

Not only could I download the Piano Concerto No.3 but I then found McCabe's Trumpet Concerto "La Primavera" (2012) inside a video of a concert given by the Orchestra of the Swan headed "British Trumpet Concerto" posted by Goodmedia.

Given the steadily increasing number of uploads of performances, broadcast or otherwise, of music not available on cd it might be time for me to update previous lists of "missing" British symphonies and concertos in the hope that one or two may have surfaced on You Tube or elsewhere.


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: cjvinthechair on July 29, 2016, 04:52:44 pm
Thanks, gentlemen ! 'Mudfinger' not perhaps a Channel one would automatically gravitate towards, but....!
'Goodmedia' likewise, perhaps !


Title: Re: The James Stuart Channel
Post by: Dundonnell on August 05, 2016, 04:17:08 pm
There is now SO much British music on this wonderful YT Channel that a catalogue of it all would not go amiss ;D