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Title: Latvian music
Post by: Latvian on August 17, 2012, 04:34:27 pm
Hi, everyone!

It's great to be back among musical friends! For my first download on this board, I've put together a vast selection of works by Peteris Barisons, which have been discussed and requested by various members (on the former UC board and in post-UC discussions). Atsushi was kind enough to upload Barisons' Second Symphony a while ago on UC, but the version I've uploaded today is a more recent recording by a different conductor. The other works have not been uploaded before. While Barisons' music is indisputably (at least in my mind, and those of various Latvian musicologists) Romantic in character, I'm not posting it on the new UC due to the prohibition against LP sources for downloads, so you will only find them here.

I hope you enjoy them!


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: cjvinthechair on August 17, 2012, 06:59:17 pm
Gee - Mr. Latvian, what an extraordinary upload ! Taken me 40+ minutes to download & arrange the pieces, never mind listen to any.
Quite fantastic, thanks !


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: kyjo on August 17, 2012, 07:30:27 pm
Thank you once again, Latvian ;D! Barison's music is wonderful and richly romantic; there are many treasures in Latvian classical music: Janis Medins' Dainas and piano concerto, Ivanovs' and Skulte's symphonies, etc. Keep up the good work :)!


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: jowcol on August 17, 2012, 08:47:54 pm
Hi, everyone!

It's great to be back among musical friends! For my first download on this board, I've put together a vast selection of works by Peteris Barisons, which have been discussed and requested by various members (on the former UC board and in post-UC discussions). Atsushi was kind enough to upload Barisons' Second Symphony a while ago on UC, but the version I've uploaded today is a more recent recording by a different conductor. The other works have not been uploaded before. While Barisons' music is indisputably (at least in my mind, and those of various Latvian musicologists) Romantic in character, I'm not posting it on the new UC due to the prohibition against LP sources for downloads, so you will only find them here.

I hope you enjoy them!

The Ivanovs series of symphonies you had posted on UC was one of the greatest treasures i had found there.  At some point, it would be great to post them here-- I can do it if you don't mind me referencing your links.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Christo on August 17, 2012, 10:19:10 pm
The Ivanovs series of symphonies you had posted on UC was one of the greatest treasures i had found there.  At some point, it would be great to post them here-- I can do it if you don't mind me referencing your links.

Work in already in progress on the Download thread. More than I can digest, but I'll do my best.  :D


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Latvian on August 17, 2012, 10:38:24 pm
The Ivanovs series of symphonies you had posted on UC was one of the greatest treasures i had found there.  At some point, it would be great to post them here

All done. In addition, I brought over all my other Latvian anthologies from the archived Downloads on UC.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Dundonnell on August 17, 2012, 11:02:49 pm
Maris.... I may be being very stupid but when I extract the .rar file for the Three Preludes I only find one of the three inside the file ???

I shall certainly now revise my Barisons catalogue ;D


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: jowcol on August 18, 2012, 12:17:41 am
Maris (Latvian)--

Did you have Skulte's 5th in your listing of SKulte symphonies? If you don't have it,   I had downloaded a copy of the 5th from Symphony Share, and it is my favorite of the cycle.  (7 and 9 are also very good!)
I would gladly upload it.  Or maybe I am just getting old and did not see it.

Thanks for transferring all of your work over from UC-- I plan to do the same, but I'm still uploading more "new" works. 


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Latvian on August 18, 2012, 12:23:32 am
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Maris.... I may be being very stupid but when I extract the .rar file for the Three Preludes I only find one of the three inside the file

Hmm... I'm not sure what the problem could be. I just downloaded it myself and all three were there. Maybe Mediafire lost one in the course of your download? I suggest you delete the file and try downloading again. If anyone else experiences the same problem, let me know.

You stupid, Colin? Never!  :o


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Latvian on August 18, 2012, 12:26:44 am
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Did you have Skulte's 5th in your listing of SKulte symphonies? If you don't have it,   I had downloaded a copy of the 5th from Symphony Share, and it is my favorite of the cycle.  (7 and 9 are also very good!)
I would gladly upload it.  Or maybe I am just getting old and did not see it.

I didn't upload Symphonies 4, 5, and 7 since Atsushi had already done so. However, for the sake of completeness I would be happy to include his links if he has no objection.

Thanks so much for your continuing uploads, jowcol! And thanks to Karl for supplying them! Some really dazzling stuff.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Dundonnell on August 18, 2012, 03:11:50 am
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Maris.... I may be being very stupid but when I extract the .rar file for the Three Preludes I only find one of the three inside the file

Hmm... I'm not sure what the problem could be. I just downloaded it myself and all three were there. Maybe Mediafire lost one in the course of your download? I suggest you delete the file and try downloading again. If anyone else experiences the same problem, let me know.

You stupid, Colin? Never!  :o

Followed your advice ;D   Success :)


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Greg K on August 18, 2012, 05:00:16 am
Regarding Skulte, my own clear favorites among the Symphonies are Nos.4&5, with No.4 (at variance with Jowcol) holding a significant edge.  In fact, the pace, sweep, pathos, and melodic distinction of this piece so jell for me as to give it a lovability comparable to Ivanovs' No.6  and Jazeps Medins' 2nd in my affections.

Honestly, I've been rather disappointed with the rest of Skulte's cycle, and just don't find the works distinctive or memorable after numerous listenings (though no less grateful to Latvian for the opportunity to hear them).   Prompted by Jowcol's remark, and after a long lapse, I may give Nos.7&9 another chance to convince, but would be interested to have from Latvian the kind of comparative "pocket" summary and evaluation of Skulte's Symphonies that he once very usefully provided for Ivanovs'.
 


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Holger on August 18, 2012, 08:02:55 am
Actually, Skulte is clearly one of my top favourites among Latvian composers. I think his sense for colour and atmosphere is most remarkable, highly imaginative and, in a way, also pictorial music. Here are some thoughts about his symphonies:

I would regard Nos. 1-4 as one group. Probably, Skulte is nearest to Socialist Realism here - while I want to emphasize that for me, there is nothing pejorative about this. All four symphonies are related to special themes (Peace, Nature, Space Flight and Youth). While I would be ready to admit that No. 1 might still have certain lengths (though much of it is very attractive in my view), I do think that No. 2 is a magnificent portrait of nature, with bright, blossoming colours, a brilliant hymn to the sun.

No. 3 is more compact, it's a portrait of space and Skulte inserts some very interesting features here, like working with the harmonic series or using flageolet effects, to illustrate the universe in music. It's a magic moment when the symphony finally drifts away into space. No. 4 is one of the greatest youth symphonies I know, since Skulte manages to evoke a certain atmosphere of sparkling lightness, the music almost seems to float in some passages.

No. 5 was written almost 10 years later and it is really a totally different work in terms of mood: all of a sudden, we now get a dark and depressive piece, full of struggle and grief. The climaxes of this symphony are highly impressive as a bell joins the orchestra. Near the end of the finale, the opening theme of the music is picked up again and transformed to something like a tragic hymn, before the music collapses and fades away into silence. Skulte's Sixth Symphony is more positive again, on the one hand he obviously wanted to try out some more harmonic effects here (beginning), on the other hand the finale is pretty lighthearted. For me, that's a work of transition.

Skulte's last three symphonies are from the 1980s and show his late mastery. The Seventh's title is "Preserve Nature!", and thus, the music depicts the beauty of nature (you can even hear birds at times) as well as it worries about its conservation. A choir joins the orchestra in the last two movements (of three). The ending is very characteristic: a broad and glorious tune is heard in form of a climax, but in the end, a dissonant chord is heard, maybe to be regarded as some kind of appeal.

The Eighth does not have a title but as Maris once explained, it's a symphony about the sea, quoting two Latvian folk songs. I heard the symphony several times with this background in mind, and I now think it really makes a lot of sense, I could really hear the morning mist above the water, large waves and quiet sea, the sun, and finally maybe the sunset, when everything gets calm again. Magnificently done, a great piece.

The atmosphere of farewell which is already in the Eighth up to some point is then totally obvious in the Ninth, which I would even characterize as a symphony of farewell. Grey colours of autumn, a mood of melancholy and retrospective, interact with elements of reminiscence, e.g. subtle waltz tunes which are heard several times. There are some very special moments in this symphonies, at which the music seems to come to a halt and just views back. The end presents once again one of Skulte's great, golden orchestral climaxes with a catchy tune, but it finally vanishes (really in such a way that its gets fragmented bit by bit), and the closing bars are most elegiac and silent.

Especially Symphonies Nos. 8&9 are very conservative of course (they were composed in 1984 and 1987, respectively), but for me, this doesn't matter if a composer is able to create such strong images, has such a great command of orchestral colours and moods and also a distinctive voice.

What escapes me a little about your statement, Greg, is why you think this music is not memorable. Quite on the contrary, it's highly memorable in my view. Each symphony contains passages and tunes which I could recall at any time by heart!


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: jowcol on August 18, 2012, 01:37:28 pm
Regarding Skulte, my own clear favorites among the Symphonies are Nos.4&5, with No.4 (at variance with Jowcol) holding a significant edge.  In fact, the pace, sweep, pathos, and melodic distinction of this piece so jell for me as to give it a lovability comparable to Ivanovs' No.6  and Jazeps Medins' 2nd in my affections.

I'll need to give 4 another listen.  To be honest, the first 4 struck me as not memorable-- but it may have been one of many factors not involving the music.  And feel free to be "at variance"-- this helps me pay more attention to works that my have been under my radar.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Greg K on August 18, 2012, 03:47:09 pm

What escapes me a little about your statement, Greg, is why you think this music is not memorable. Quite on the contrary, it's highly memorable in my view. Each symphony contains passages and tunes which I could recall at any time by heart!

The why escapes me also, Holger, at least in any very articulable sense, else I might have tried to elaborate on it.
I fully acknowledge that for me to say "not distinctive or memorable" about most of Skulte's Symphonies without any explanation offers no insight and makes the measure of my sensibility at least suspicious.  To the extent I provoked your much more interesting descriptions, I'm happy for my comments to serve as a completely forgettable "set-up".

Just now as I write I'm listening again to Symphony No.9, - 33' in and the work is just about over.  A "farewell Symphony" you say, - "autumnul", "melancholic", and "retrospective".  I should be in my element here.
But it's not really happening so.  I can relate your words somewhat to the passing sounds at times, and the overall mood I feel some resonance with.  However the themes I just don't find compelling, - not "memorable" as I say,
nor does the piece as whole hang together for me, - it is just a "succession" but not a "coherence".  There are fragments that engage me momentarily, even a few sustained passages I hear some  "call" from.  But overall, - and the piece has now finished - I'm rather indifferent to it.  It's a miss.  I can't say any more.

No.4 is a different story, and I do love Skulte for that one, - though the "Youth" motif mostly escapes me, and I can't at all say "sparkling lightness" is the impression that carries the day with me.  If "youth" means anything for me here I would understand it more as "youth in restrospect" inasmuch as I hear a certain "wistfulness" and reminescence at least parrellel to the qualities you depict.  Maris will decide :).
   


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: cjvinthechair on August 19, 2012, 08:56:13 pm
Gentemen - & particularly Mr. Latvian - you cannot imagine how much hard work this magnificent thread is providing for an ignoramus willing to learn.
Thought I'd done pretty well 'sorting' the Barisons uploads in 40 mins, or so; sifting out what I've got, what I want and whether I agree with any/everyone's opinion on what's best etc. for the recent uploads will take much of a day....and won't it be a wonderful way to spend it !

Being part this this and other such music sites has been as much fun as I've had in years (yeah, I know, need to get out more !). Many thanks to all.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Latvian on August 20, 2012, 01:43:09 pm
cjvinthechair -- you're very welcome. I'm glad I've been able to help you while away the hours pleasantly. After all, isn't that what much of this forum is about, ultimately. Be forewarned, however -- there is much more music to come, especially from Latvia!

Holger -- thank you for your excellent summation of Skulte's symphonies. I agree with most of your insights and observations. I have to admit that over the years, I've probably spent much more time with Ivanovs' symphonies than Skulte's, and to some extent I can relate to Greg's feelings. There are stretches of Skulte's symphonies that don't really engage me as much as they probably should, either. My advice to you, Greg, is to keep at it and give it some time. Don't try to force it either. Listen to other music (especially Latvian  ;)), and then come back to it.

Yes, the 8th is still my favorite Skulte symphony. I hope listeners can find their way into the heart of this work as well. Admitedly, it has more significance for me, and more to grab onto initially, because of the folksong quotes. I was familiar with these folksongs decades before I ever heard the symphony. But, one of the magical aspects of this work is what he does with those themes -- how he harmonizes them, weaves them into the work, expands on them, etc. I think if you feel the urge to get to know this work better, this is a good way to approach it, keeping the "sea" theme in mind. Listen to how the work unfolds. Also, an interesting contrast is to listen to his early symphonic poem "Waves" (also in the uploads) and constrast the very impressionistic character of the early work with the more reserved style of the symphony. Then again, there are similarities, too!

One final comment. I wouldn't give the "peace" theme in the 1st symphony much significance. Back in the late '40s and early '50s, this was a propaganda topic dear to the Soviet government, and composers were required to address subjects such as this in their music as part of socialist realism. More than one Latvian musician who lived through that period has told me that, in addition, it was pretty much mandatory to write a cantata or symphony extolling Stalin and/or Lenin, to show your loyalty to the state and its supposed ideals, or there would be serious repercussions to your career or health. I like the 1st Symphony very much, as a fine example of Skulte's wonderful stylistic melding of impressionism, late Romanticism, and nascent modernism, but it could just as easily be about something completely unrelated to peace. When I listen to the work, I never give the supposed theme a thought and enjoy the music on its own merits. From all accounts, Skulte was never a true believer nor a toady.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: rbert12 on August 21, 2012, 04:38:49 pm
My most heartfelt thanks for all your uploads but specially for Kalsons symphonies, after buying some years ago a CD with his Cello and Violin Concertos I have been interested in this composer, but without much chance to listen to others works.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Dundonnell on August 21, 2012, 04:45:06 pm
I have updated the Kalsons catalogue accordingly :)


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Elroel on August 26, 2012, 02:28:13 pm
Maris,

After giving us the symphonies of Skulte, you now provided us with the symphonies of Romuald Kalsons. A week ago I got my copy of the Simax cd with his violin concerto.
I had the time to listen to the symphonies and, again, got the feeling why the h... did no company make a recording of these works. Well, Simax knows the composer now and maybe they'll record one or more?
Beautiful, toneful music, almost romantic, but with a modern sound, IMO. Beautiful orchestrations. I especially loved the 3rd part of the 4th Symphony.
The poem in it sounds nice. You don't have by any chance a translation? and who is the poet?
Or tell at least where it is about?

Anyway, thanks again, my friend,

Roelof (Elroel)



Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: fr8nks on October 18, 2012, 05:35:52 pm
The links have been restored for Kalsons' Violin Concerto and Concerto Grosso. Two excellent works by a fine composer.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: ttle on October 23, 2012, 10:30:35 pm
Just now as I write I'm listening again to Symphony No.9, - 33' in and the work is just about over.  A "farewell Symphony" you say, - "autumnul", "melancholic", and "retrospective".  I should be in my element here.
But it's not really happening so.  I can relate your words somewhat to the passing sounds at times, and the overall mood I feel some resonance with.  However the themes I just don't find compelling, - not "memorable" as I say,
nor does the piece as whole hang together for me, - it is just a "succession" but not a "coherence".  There are fragments that engage me momentarily, even a few sustained passages I hear some  "call" from.  But overall, - and the piece has now finished - I'm rather indifferent to it.  It's a miss.  I can't say any more.

Whether one is caught by a given piece cannot (and certainly should not) be commanded. I confess having some difficulty to be fully convinced by the final part of the 9th, much as I would like to. In contrast, the slow movement is, to me, fully convincing and something to wallow in. It could be kitsch, and so it is to an extent. It reminds me of atmospheric film music, which is normally not an unmitigated positive comment for me, when it comes to symphonies. Yet, I find it moving and satisfactory. Right now, it reminds me of Atterberg's Fifth. Totally different music, I know, but in both cases, the craftsman's skills recede out of sight, the strings (no pun intended) are set loose and the music stands perfectly on its own right.

As for the Fifth, it does have many dark sides, but I have always perceived it as quite hedonistic at the same time, more so, indeed, than most other Skulte symphonies. Light-hearted it is not, but rather sensuous.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Elroel on November 05, 2012, 04:25:28 pm
Many thanks to Maris for providing the 5th and 6th symphonies of Imants Kalniņš.

Interesting also that he includes the original 4th symphony, although I never heard of the fact that there is an earlier version. I'm not really surprised, because like so many composers from the Soviet period had to change their works. Alemdar Karamanov (Ukrainian) is one who had also his troubles with a rigid regime.

Thanks again,

Elroel


Title: Artūrs Grīnups
Post by: Latvian on February 06, 2013, 07:55:50 pm
The complete symphonies of Artūrs Grīnups have now been posted in the Latvian Music folder in the Downloads section of the forum.

Some words on the composer, from Latvian sources:

(http://rmm.lv/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Arturs-Grinups-214x300.jpg)

Artūrs Grīnups was born in Rīga, on November 2nd, 1931. He was a graduate of the Jāzeps Vītols Latvian State Conservatory in contrabass and compositions, studying the latter with Ādolfs Skulte. From 1954 to 1983 he played double bass in the Latvian State Symphony Orchestra. From 1968 to 1977, he was also in the Latvian State Opera & Ballet Theatre Symphony Orchestra. He died on December 4th, 1989, in Rīga.

Unlike most other Latvian composers, Grīnups rarely composed vocal music. Most of his creative work was symphonic -- nine symphonies and a symphony for string orchestra, as well as other symphonic and instrumental chamber works. The core of his style was a transformation of late 19th century and early 20th century late romanticism, with its characteristic range of expression and impressionistic orchestral sound potential, with a deeply personal view.

The composer’s creative development is in three periods. From the end of the 1950s to the early 1960s, he composed his first five symphonies, among which are many vivid works such as the Third and Fifth Symphonies. The second period, from the early 1960s until the early 1980s, he concentrated on color, in a more neo-classical aesthetic, featuring the Sixth Symphony and Sinfonia for Strings. His final period in the 1980s produced his swan song, the Ninth Symphony.

Grīnups was well known to his contemporaries for a sharp tongue and a difficult disposition. That was one reason why the composer's msuic rarely received praise during the Soviet occupation from the government and from official music critics. Also, his only effort at producing the obligatory pro-Soviet choral work, which did not receive notable publicity or praise from the government, was the song Kā Ļeņina sardzē [As In Lenin’s Guard], composed in 1967 for voice or choir with piano. As a consequence, very little of his music received "official" recordings on Melodiya, and none of his symphonic scores were published until long after the Soviet occupation ended.

Grīnups’ personality is well-characterized by two of his contemporaries. Pēteris Plakidis said, "He was fanatically obsessed with his plans and hopes. He was constantly torn by some inner conflict, persistently dissatisfied with himself. He attempted to curb his own volcanic temperament with strong chains of classicism. It could be said that his own self-flagellation and curbing was the perpetual state of his soul." Imants Zemzaris said, "Artūrs Grīnups had no predecessors in Latvian music, no equals, he was not in rivalries or competition. He worked alone in his own sovereign world, as if scattered in time and space."


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: cjvinthechair on February 06, 2013, 08:05:16 pm
Wow - a real feast today; thought I was beginning to recognise some/most Latvian composers...a million percent wrong as usual !
Have chosen something roughly midway as my 'taster', Symphony no. 5. Are there thought to be 'stand out' works, or do we just gradually work through ?

Thanks so much for the surfeit of novelties !


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Dundonnell on February 07, 2013, 02:53:33 am
Many thanks from me also :)

To get one symphony from an unknown composer is always interesting......to get TEN in one go is fantastic :) :)


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Elroel on February 07, 2013, 08:37:25 am
The 6th I had tape a long time ago. I never laid my hand on the Melodiya recording. And now: all of Grinups symphonies!
Many, many thanks Maris. This is absolutely beautiful.



Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: cjvinthechair on February 07, 2013, 09:13:28 am
Well, no. 5 is terrific, so, bearing in mind I'm currently overseas & each download takes the best part of an hour, that's the rest of the day taken care of....but it'll be well worth it - eventually !


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Latvian on February 07, 2013, 01:16:10 pm
You're all very welcome! So many of you have brought me great pleasure with the obscurities you've uploaded as well!

Grinups was indeed a fine composer. I have to admit I haven't spent as much time as I should have in familiarizing myself with his music, so I really can't answer any specific questions about his music. You all know how it is -- there's always something else out there to download, research, purchase, etc., that the listening list gets pretty long...  ;)


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: kyjo on February 07, 2013, 07:48:22 pm
May I also join in the chorus of thanks for the Grinups symphonies? He's a composer I'd heard of in passing but had never really known much about. And a complete cycle, too :) Wonderful :)


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Malito on February 08, 2013, 12:09:35 am
Sveiks, Mari!

Thank you SOOOO much for the 10 Grinups symphonies.  I have long loved #6 which I had on Melodiya and Atsushi Sato had sente me #1, 8, and 9.  But now to hear them all...My God, it is like winning the Latvian Lottery!!  Thank you so very much.  I have long been a fan of Imants Kalnins and almost met hi 3 summers ago when I was there visiting friends,  I heard rumors of a symphony no. 7.  Do you have any knowlege of this?


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Latvian on February 08, 2013, 01:21:09 pm
Sveiks, Malito!

You're very welcome! I hope you enjoy them all.

Yes, I've heard rumors of a 7th Symphony as well. Unfortunately, just rumors so far. I do hope it actually materializes.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Malito on February 08, 2013, 06:50:53 pm
Playing all the Grinups symphonies in a row.  Listening to No. 5 now which is fabulous!!!  Thanks you again.  Now I have complete symphonies of Grinups, Skulte, Kalnins and Ivanovs.  I never dreamed I would ever see the day!  Thanks again, Mari!!!



Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: ttle on February 10, 2013, 11:17:49 am
Many thanks from me as well, Maris - I only knew (and liked) Nos. 1, 6 and 9 as well as the beautiful Sinfonia per archi. Frans C. Lemaire mentions Grīnups in his book about Russian and ex-USSR composers, as well as Ramans, as two interesting symphonists in the generation between Ivanovs/Ā.Skulte and Dambis/I.Kalniņš, but without going into much details. Ramans's Sixth is quite strong as well, and very different from the lighter works he is apparently best known for.

This reminds me of another composer whose name is familiar (not only through his famous daughter) but whose music is almost absent from the catalogue: Alberts Jerums. His Second sonata for violin and piano is superb. Do you know of any recordings of his orchestral music?


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Latvian on February 10, 2013, 08:58:10 pm
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Ramans's Sixth is quite strong as well, and very different from the lighter works he is apparently best known for.

Interesting that you should mention Ramans... I'm planning to upload some of his music soon. Yes, very interesting.

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This reminds me of another composer whose name is familiar (not only through his famous daughter) but whose music is almost absent from the catalogue: Alberts Jerums. His Second sonata for violin and piano is superb. Do you know of any recordings of his orchestral music?

Yes, I have one work of his for chamber orchestra, which I can upload in the near future.

I didn't know Jerums had a famous daughter -- who is she and what is she famous for? I knew a daughter of his named Jana, who sang in a wonderful Latvian chamber choir called "Atbalss" (Echo), in London back in the 1980s. Sadly I never met Jerums himself. He died in 1979, just as my involvement in emigre Latvian music began. Jerums is still revered among emigre Latvians for his cultural contributions, but apart from a choral setting of the Latvian folksong "Ej, saulite, driz pie Dieva," his music is almost never performed, sadly. Even from Latvia itself, I don't hear about any significant performances. A well-loved personality in England in his lifetime, and a "musician's musician" among his colleagues. A fine conductor as well.


Title: Re: Latvian music -Juris Karlsons
Post by: Jolly Roger on February 15, 2013, 10:00:27 am
Juris Karlsons is very gifted Larvian composer, I think his Silver Veil is a masterpiece that should be heard by everyone.
Not much of his music has been posted.



Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: kyjo on February 15, 2013, 11:34:45 pm
Hadn't heard of Karlsons before! Could you please tell me where his Silver Veil can be heard? If it's a masterpiece I'd certainly like to hear it :)


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Latvian on February 16, 2013, 01:30:21 am
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Could you please tell me where his Silver Veil can be heard?

I have a broadcast recording of the suite from this ballet that I can upload. Will try to do so this weekend.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: kyjo on February 16, 2013, 01:45:12 am
Excellent, Maris! I knew I could count on you :)


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: shamus on February 16, 2013, 03:31:16 am
I don't think anyone has mentioned another absolute Latvian star, at least in my book, and easy to mix up with Karlsons, that is Romualds Kalsons. And there are many younger ones whose music is top-notch: Artur Maskats, Ilona Brege, Selma Mences, Karli Laci, et al.
And don't forget the fine composer Ester Magi, to whose music Toccata Classics has done a great service.

http://www.amazon.com/Ester-M%C3%A4gi-Orchestral-Music-Magi/dp/B000O5B4YC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1360985296&sr=8-1&keywords=ester+magi (http://www.amazon.com/Ester-M%C3%A4gi-Orchestral-Music-Magi/dp/B000O5B4YC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1360985296&sr=8-1&keywords=ester+magi)

 The Latvian radio station is wonderful, especially for me on Wednesday nights when the fare is often more modern or current. But any other day can have a delightful surprise as well.

 This is the calendar for the programming, just click on the day you are interested in and the day's program will come up in another tab, and they have archives for several previous years, a veritable half life's work just to explore.
http://ww0.latvijasradio.lv/program/3/2013/index.htm (http://ww0.latvijasradio.lv/program/3/2013/index.htm)


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Elroel on February 16, 2013, 12:51:28 pm
Isn't Ester Mägi an Estonian lady?


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: shamus on February 16, 2013, 04:48:55 pm
Ooops! Of course she is, sorry. Jim


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Latvian on February 19, 2013, 12:40:01 am
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I have a broadcast recording of the suite from this ballet that I can upload. Will try to do so this weekend.

A few more days, I'm afraid -- haven't had time to hunt down the CD-R!


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Malito on February 19, 2013, 06:22:41 pm
I just found in my discs which need to have covers made for them, a symphony no. 7 and 8 by Ramans...I have no idea where I got them or what the orchestra is or the conductor.  I searched here and in Unsung composers and could find not such listing.  Latvian, if you know, please giveme some info....Thanks Malito


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Malito on February 19, 2013, 06:50:47 pm
I'm replying to my own comment!!!  I realized I got the Ramans 7th and 8th from Atsushi.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: cjvinthechair on February 25, 2013, 05:29:53 pm
Ramans - a delightful, and huge (!) upload, thank you so much, Maris - am enjoying the 5th Symphony now...choral, so pretty sure to find favour here !


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Latvian on February 25, 2013, 06:21:09 pm
You're welcome!


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: kyjo on February 25, 2013, 09:04:53 pm
Another excellent batch of uploads of music by a composer previously unknown to me! How marvelous :) :)


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: MVS on February 26, 2013, 02:33:07 am
Oh, yes!  Ramans is VERY interesting!  Great uploads, Maris! THANKS!!!


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Holger on February 27, 2013, 08:27:19 am
Some annotations also from my side. Ramans is a very fine composer in my view, I already knew his symphonies and much enjoy them. Music that constantly finds its way to my CD player. Here are a few more details just to add some information to Maris' uploads.

Symphony No. 2: The four movements also have titles, namely
I. Thoughts
II. Work
III. Interlude
IV. Holiday

Symphony No. 6: actually, the third movement is marked Andante and the fourth Risoluto energico.

From all I know, this is still not Ramans' complete symphonic cycle, there should also be a Symphony No. 9. I'd be much interested in that one but I have very little hope a recording exists.

Furthermore, I once did some research to get the complete names of the flute players in case of the Music for String Orchestra and four Flutes (which appeared on LP together with the Fourth Symphony). These are: Vilnis Strautņš, Lilija Veilande-Štrāla, Lamonis Lazdiņš and Jānis Morics.

Hope this is of some interest.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Latvian on February 27, 2013, 02:09:44 pm
Thank you for the additional information, Holger!


Title: Re: Latvian music - CORRECTION!
Post by: Latvian on February 28, 2013, 02:38:18 pm
It's been brought to my attention that I uploaded the wrong file for Ramans' Symphony No. 1. So, I've deleted the existing file and uploaded the correct one. If you downloaded it prior to this morning, you should delete it and download the correct file.

Sorry for the confusion!


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: ttle on March 02, 2013, 05:17:22 pm
It is indeed wonderful to have these two important groups of symphonies, liels paldies Māri!
I first heard of both composers when Frans C. Lemaire published his first book about composers from Russia and the former Soviet republics (Ed. Fayard), a very good survey by the way, even though it may not be the most technically accurate reference in musical terms. Until now, I had heard Grīnups's First, Sixth, Ninth and the sinfonia for strings. Indulis Suna has uploaded his own performances of some violin pieces by Grīnups on YouTube. As for Ramans, his Sixth is surprisingly imposing and gripping for those who only know Concerto leggiero and other pieces which one would almost classify as "crossover" nowadays.
Has Ramans's Ninth ever been performed and recorded?


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Latvian on March 02, 2013, 07:11:54 pm
You're welcome, ttle!

Yes, I believe listeners who are only familiar with the Concerto leggiero and other lighter fare by Ramans will be quite surprised by works such as the 6th Symphony. It's interesting that there are so many Soviet-era Latvian composers who led musical "double lives," composing with equal proficiency and success in both serious and lighter music in all its varieties.

No, I don't know of any performance or recording of Ramans' 9th Symphony, unfortunately.

I'm not familiar with the Lemaire book. Thanks for mentioning it -- I'll have to look it up.

Visu labu!


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Jolly Roger on March 06, 2013, 01:52:12 pm
His music is very scarce.
I had to piece it together and reedit it as it was shamefully split into 2 pieces ..

This broadcast:

Karlsons,Juri - Silver Veil. symphony pages
LNSO , Andris Vecumnieks
Latvian Radio 3 - Classics Thursday, 2009. OF 5. February

this site

http://www.latvijasradio.lv/program/3/2012/index.htm


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Jolly Roger on March 07, 2013, 02:59:08 am
Please be advised, the audio is not the best, but the slow section is really gorgeous..
Maybe not a masterpiece for all, but I love the piece.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Latvian on March 20, 2013, 06:06:54 pm
A substantial collection of the symphonic music of Latvian composer Juris Karlsons has just been uploaded, including a couple of works that were requested by others on the forum. Enjoy!


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Jolly Roger on March 21, 2013, 06:53:34 am
A substantial collection of the symphonic music of Latvian composer Juris Karlsons has just been uploaded, including a couple of works that were requested by others on the forum. Enjoy!
Kudos for The Karlsons..
Latvia's musical treasures amaze me!
here is another beauty I heard..

Karlsons, Juri - Music for Chamber Orchestra
Kremerata Baltica, Viesturs Jansons, Aldis Liepins
Latvian Radio 3 - Classical Wednesday, 2009, of 19 August


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: calyptorhynchus on April 23, 2013, 03:06:56 am
There's certainly a surfetit of symphonic cycles here on the Latvian music thread!

I'm going through the Kalnins cycle at the moment. Can anyone tell me what the texts in the 2nd & 4th movements of his 6th symphony are?



Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: calyptorhynchus on April 23, 2013, 05:10:20 am
And another query.

Which od the Latvian composers symphonic cycles shall I tackle next after Kalnins (information: my favourite mid/late C20 symphonists are Vaughan Williams, Robert Simpson, Havergal Brian, Shostakovitch, David Diamond, Alan Petersson, David Matthews)


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Latvian on April 23, 2013, 03:58:09 pm
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Which od the Latvian composers symphonic cycles shall I tackle next after Kalnins (information: my favourite mid/late C20 symphonists are Vaughan Williams, Robert Simpson, Havergal Brian, Shostakovitch, David Diamond, Alan Petersson, David Matthews)

If you're not already familiar with them, I recommend Janis Ivanovs and Adolfs Skulte. Generally more conservative and traditional than Imants Kalnins, but still somewhat gritty in the later portions of the cycles.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: calyptorhynchus on April 23, 2013, 10:57:04 pm
Thanks

(Amazing how many composers such a small country has produced in the C20).


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Dundonnell on April 24, 2013, 02:56:12 am
Many thanks for the Peteris Vasks "Sala" :) :)


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: calyptorhynchus on April 24, 2013, 11:58:53 am
Vasks' Sala sounds rather English in places. You don't suppose the island in question is Britain, do you?


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: kyjo on July 30, 2013, 04:10:26 pm
Many thanks, Maris, for the Kepitis symphonies :)

Another Latvian composer completely unknown to me :)


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: calyptorhynchus on September 24, 2013, 10:20:23 pm
Ivanovo Symphony No 13 "symphonia humana" has spoken word commentary between the movements (in Latvian, obviously).

Does anyone know what the gist of this is?, I am enjoying the music immensely (ditto the rest of Ivanovs' symphonies).


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Holger on September 25, 2013, 11:58:08 am
Ivanovo Symphony No 13 "symphonia humana" has spoken word commentary between the movements (in Latvian, obviously).

Does anyone know what the gist of this is?, I am enjoying the music immensely (ditto the rest of Ivanovs' symphonies).

I don't speak Latvian myself, but I remember that (our member) Latvian once said the text is an eulogy for Lenin. Moreover, I somehow have in mind the symphony is dedicated to Lenin's 100th birthday, so this seems to make sense. Given these circumstances, it is of course a bit strange it is actually the only of Ivanovs' later symphonies which Melodiya did not bring out on LP! In any case, I also like this symphony a lot. It is distinguished by a special atmosphere, serious and solemn at the same time, somewhat remote and thoughtful especially in the outer movements.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Latvian on September 25, 2013, 06:48:52 pm
Holger is correct about Ivanovs' 13th Symphony, although the text is more of a paean to Lenin than a eulogy. It is indeed the only symphony after #4 which was not recorded by Melodiya, for reasons that are equally mysterious to me as they are to Holger and everyone else I've discussed this with. Most likely it was indeed intended to honor Lenin's 100th birthday in 1970, and it was awarded a Soviet State Prize that year.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: calyptorhynchus on September 25, 2013, 11:40:18 pm
Interesting, probably one of the best paeans to Lenin ever! The first movement after the prologue I found very good, it had a striving, coming into being sort of quality, the other instrumental movements were very good too.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Jolly Roger on September 26, 2013, 04:59:53 am
Interesting, probably one of the best paeans to Lenin ever! The first movement after the prologue I found very good, it had a striving, coming into being sort of quality, the other instrumental movements were very good too.
a misplaced paean, but a fine work nonetheless.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Latvian on September 27, 2013, 04:07:14 pm
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Quote from: calyptorhynchus on September 25, 2013, 11:40:18 pm
Interesting, probably one of the best paeans to Lenin ever! The first movement after the prologue I found very good, it had a striving, coming into being sort of quality, the other instrumental movements were very good too.
a misplaced paean, but a fine work nonetheless.

Most definitely misplaced!

The music itself is indeed quite fine, and is quite effective if you also omit the silly spoken tracks and just listen to the music. I wouldn't be surprised if, as was the case with many composers, the music itself really has nothing to do with the subject in the mind of the composer. This may well be just another sad example of a composer forced to create something with an overtly political message to stay in the good graces of the Communist government.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: dhibbard on December 02, 2013, 05:55:36 am
http://www.classicsonline.com/catalogue/product.aspx?pid=1978823

I see where Naxos has released a CD that I had been trying to find for years .. now on CD !  Ha

GRINBLATS, R.: Rigonda Suite (Latvian State Opera and Ballet Theatre Orchestra, Tons) (1961)

Composer(s)   Grinblats, Romaulds
Artist(s)    Tons, Edgars, Conductor • Latvian State Opera and Ballet Theatre Orchestra
   
Genre    Classical Music
Category    Unknown
Catalogue    9.81209
Label    Naxos Classical Archives


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Latvian on December 05, 2013, 01:40:54 pm
Latvian-Candian pianist Arturs Ozoliņš is very much alive. The obituary quoted in the upload of Mediņš' 24 Dainas is for someone else. Pianist Ozoliņš was born in 1946, not 1920, the date cited in the obituary.

I've also met pianist Ozoliņš and he certainly is much more youthful than the gentleman in the obituary would have been.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: dhibbard on December 05, 2013, 02:29:47 pm
Latvian-Candian pianist Arturs Ozoliņš is very much alive. The obituary quoted in the upload of Mediņš' 24 Dainas is for someone else. Pianist Ozoliņš was born in 1946, not 1920, the date cited in the obituary.

I've also met pianist Ozoliņš and he certainly is much more youthful than the gentleman in the obituary would have been.

Thanks... I will delete that ob then. 


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Wiktorio30Poland on January 08, 2014, 11:30:16 am
Thank You all for so many interesting pieces of music form Latvia.

I am now listening to music of Andrejs Jurjans, but for me Latvia together with Slovakia, and Finnland is very important to such typ[e of music.

If it possible please somebody upload this orchestral piece of Adolfs Abele, that has Orphan in title, and the second part of ballet Negaiss by Skulte, because in this link i saw, are only part 1 and 3.

Somebody knows maybe which one of the latvian composers use the original latvian and latgalian folk melodies in the symphonic or other works ?


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: christopher on January 08, 2014, 12:54:21 pm
What Jurjans works have been recorded other than the Symphonic Allegro?  It blows my socks off every time I listen to it, so I would love to hear his other works.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Wiktorio30Poland on January 08, 2014, 01:04:21 pm
I have only some works from radio broadcasts and youtube. I proove someday to upload it, but it takes some time.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: kyjo on January 08, 2014, 02:38:40 pm
Yes indeed, Jurjans' Symphonic Allegro is a riveting work! I'd certainly like to hear more of his music :)


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: dhibbard on January 09, 2014, 05:57:25 am
Yes indeed, Jurjans' Symphonic Allegro is a riveting work! I'd certainly like to hear more of his music :)

I have the "March of Song Festival", "Latvian Dances", "Concerto for Cello and Funeral March"
 (Melodiya  3819)  the other LP I have is Melodiya  C10 26679 with "Cantata to Fatherlands"  and "Sym study:  Emancipation of the Latvian People"   and Cantata "Sing Ligo..."


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Wiktorio30Poland on January 09, 2014, 01:11:04 pm
Yes indeed, Jurjans' Symphonic Allegro is a riveting work! I'd certainly like to hear more of his music :)

I have the March of Song Festival, Latvian Dances, Concerto for Cello and Funeral March (Mel 3819)  the other LP I have is Melo C10 26679 with Cantata "to Fatherlands"  and Sym study "Emancipation of the Latvian People and Cantata "Sing Ligo..."

I also have Latvian Dances, but maybe with 4 seconds pause..., I don't have the March and Sym Study "Emancipation..., which I have searched for a long time. The others You have mentiones I also have from Youtube and Radio Broadcasts. I have also Cantata Gariga (Sacred Cantata) and Jaunu Songs for Chorus.

Yesterday I prooved upload these pieces which I have on mediafire, but there was some mistake with my internet. I am sorry for that. I will be uploading as soon as possible, but I am not sure, if it ends with success. But if I don't make it, than I can send these pieces in mp3 format to somebody from this forum, and this person could upload it or sen via emails.



Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Wiktorio30Poland on January 09, 2014, 08:45:18 pm
Fortunately I have upload 3 works of Jurjans, maybe some day I upload more. Sorry for my non professionalism.

I have now some questions to those people who are listening to latvian classical music.

1. What do You think about the symphonies and orchestral music of Janis Ivanovs in comparision
- to latvian romantics music for orchestra
- to the symphonies of Adolfs Skulte, and Arturs Grinups
- to the symphonies of Estonian Composer Eduard Tubin

2. Could somebody say, which were the relations between such composers as Janis Ivanovs and
Adolfs Skulte ? Maybe somebody knows what one was thinking about the other ?

Greetings


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: kyjo on January 10, 2014, 02:53:56 am
I hope I can answer some of your questions, Wiktor:

First of all, I believe Tubin was a greater composer than any of the Latvians. He was a born symphonist (not to say Ivanovs wasn't) and his music has great staying power. His earlier symphonies (1-5) exude a sweeping, epic air and the Fourth is one of the most beautiful orchestral works of the 20th century. The later symphonies are darker and show a deeply troubled soul at work, and are powerfully concise. What sets Tubin apart from many other "unsungs" is that he developed a deeply individual voice. You'll hear hints of Sibelius and perhaps Vaughan Williams here and there, but that's about it.

Ivanovs' large cycle of symphonies is, as is to be expected, rather variable in quality. While Ivanovs' individual voice shines through in parts, his music is more derivative (not that that's a crime ;D) than Tubin's. Most of the earlier symphonies are influenced by Tchaikovsky, Scriabin, and Miaskovsky and the later ones often carry the shadow of Shostakovich and occasionally Prokofiev. Like Tubin, Ivanovs was able to compose music of great lyric beauty, such as the melodically fecund VC or the impressionistic symphonic poem Rainbow. Also likewise to Tubin, Ivanovs turned to a darker, more modern language in his later years-from about 1960 onwards. His Eleventh Symphony is a powerful "transition work" (like Tubin's Sixth)-it retains the late-romantic "bigness" of sound from the earlier symphonies but is decidedly 20th-century in its musical language. Some of his later symphonies can be a bit enigmatic-Ivanovs likes contrasting spare textures with big, brash tuttis a la Shostakovich. His Twentieth is a haunting work, filled with a bittersweet reminiscence. But, overall, Ivanovs' music doesn't "stick" with me as well as Tubin's does.

Skulte, on the other hand, continued writing in a richly romantic style throughout his life. He's not a composer who set out to shake the world with his music-there's more lush beauty than shattering intensity in his music. His Fifth Symphony shows Skulte at the height of his powers-it's romantic without being overbearingly so. There's enough drama imbued in the music to make it a powerful symphonic statement. At times, Skulte's music could benefit from having more "grit" in it, but he's still a very fine composer all the same.

Grinups I'm not as familiar with, but he's definitely a force to be reckoned with. Based on what I've heard, I would place his stature as a composer just slightly below Skulte.

Oh, and many thanks for your Jurjans uploads :) :)


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: cjvinthechair on January 10, 2014, 04:31:34 pm

Oh, and many thanks for your Jurjans uploads :) :)
Agreed, Mr. Wiktor - much appreciated, thanks !


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Dundonnell on January 10, 2014, 04:51:12 pm
Well done, Wiktor :)


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: shamus on January 10, 2014, 09:49:09 pm
I so much appreciate all these wonderful uploads, most recently from dhibbard and wiktorio (Witamy!), I have always loved almost everything I have heard by Latvian composers. I thought some of you might be interested to hear a concert by Latvian student composers that was broadcast on Latvian radio LR3 at 2100 hrs on Jan 8 2014. Below is the page of the program listing that should play for you if you click on the hour. I have noticed that the broadcasts on every Wednesday evening often present new works, not only by Latvians but by others, and provide an opportunity to hear things one can't find anywhere else.

http://ww0.latvijasradio.lv/program/3/2014/01/20140108.htm (http://ww0.latvijasradio.lv/program/3/2014/01/20140108.htm)

Then here is an article on the concert itself that I used Google Translator to understand.

http://www.tvnet.lv/muzika/klasika/489438-dirigents_janis_liepins_un_dd_orkestris_koncerta_pieci (http://www.tvnet.lv/muzika/klasika/489438-dirigents_janis_liepins_un_dd_orkestris_koncerta_pieci)

To me, they were all interesting, with some very beautiful passages, and for me that is what I need from music. I can't begin to "analyze" music nor would I if I could--I am fuddy-duddy enough to think that I can enjoy the sounds without knowing which passage, chord or sonority was influenced by which arcane predecessor, apparently thereby allowing someone with advanced "musical taste" to declare the music derivative or unoriginal! Good grief, the old fart is going into a rant!!! To me, my guess is that most music evolved from bird songs so it should be safe to write whatever kind of music you want to, and I can listen to the pieces that make me happy without shame. Thankfully, I think many young composers in many countries are composing excellent works that don't require a computer, an abused bass clarinet, or four helicopters in four different places, (i.e., MUSIC more than noise) and that is why this old fuddy-duddy is still a hopeless addict to all kinds of classical music from Bach to now. Oops, Buxtehude to now.

Anyway, hope someone finds these pieces by young Latvians of interest, I certainly did, and am heartened for the future. Again, thanks to all you faithful Latvian uploaders! Jim


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: BrianA on January 11, 2014, 02:02:24 am
Well put, Shamus!  From one old fart to another!


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: christopher on January 13, 2014, 12:30:39 pm
Hello Wiktorio30Poland and thank you VERY much for the Jurjans uploads - I am really looking forward to hearing them!

Christopher


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Wiktorio30Poland on January 14, 2014, 09:29:31 am
Thank You all for Your great posts.

I will upload some other works maybe today or tomorrow.

I have heard in last days Symphonies no 1 and no 5 by Janis Kepitis. Really interesting. I recommend to hear
the works of him.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Wiktorio30Poland on February 11, 2014, 10:36:13 am
I am preparing a good upload with some interesting works, please be patient.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: dhibbard on February 13, 2014, 03:42:14 am
Just uploaded onto Mediafire the LP5 of Latvian Music... Sights of Latvia, et at.  by Janis Medins
Didn't know for sure if Maris had uploaded that so just to be sure, I added it to the list.  Recently acquired it.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: shamus on February 13, 2014, 04:03:01 am
Bravo DHibbard and Wiktorio!!! Thanks, Jim


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: calyptorhynchus on March 27, 2014, 10:55:01 pm
Thanks for the link to the Vasks Symphony No.3. I enjoyed it greatly, as I do all of Vasks works.

This one seems to have a very strange structure, it is composed in a series of blocks, each about 1-2 minutes long, as the symphony progresses we get a preludial series of blocks (sounding like a choral prelude, like the opeining section of Simpson's Symphony No. 9), scherzo type sections, a funeral march, and other sections of differing moods, ending quietly with an alto flute solo. However, the blocks treat the same thematic material which is varied and eveloped throughout,, so the danger of a stop-start sort of music, and lack of momentum is avaoided.

I was amused by the evil harpsichord in some of the scherzo sections, but I though the piano glissandi about 3 minutes from the end were a mistake (as are all glissandi IMHO  ;D).


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: BrianA on May 05, 2014, 08:26:54 pm
Latvian,

I have recently been listening to (and enjoying) your uploads of the music of Janis Medins.  I am, however, a bit confused as to the identity of some of the selections.  Aria, Latvian Dances, Luteklite, and The Triumph of Love are pretty straightforward, but what is included in the file identified as "Medins-jan-peer"?  Is this additional selections from Luteklite or Triumph, or is it something else?

Many thanks!


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Wiktorio30Poland on May 15, 2014, 02:25:17 am
To the opera case, but Latvian opera.

I have recorded these operas (whole and extracts)
 
1. Janis Medins - Uguns us nakts (whole)
2. Janis Medins - Luteklite (extracts)
3. Janis Kalnins - Hamlets (whole)
4. Janis Kalnins - Uguni (extracts)
5. Arvids Zilinskis - Zelta Zirgs (whole)
6. Alfreds Kalnins - Salinieki (extracts)
7. Alfreds Skulte - Princesa Gundega (extracts)
8. Bruno Skulte - DVD Heiress (?) of Vilkaci (whole)

I want to upload them for all of You in some time, but I have a quite problem. My computer doesn't work correctly, and after 5 or 6 hours he is disconnected. Some opera files are quite large, from 250 to 450 Mb and 5 hours could be to short time for uploading probably such one file. The other problem is that, that some of these operas are in one file with comments in latvian. I don't have time to catalogized these works to act 1, or scene 1. If somebody is interested I proove upload them in other programm than mediafire, so please tell me, where I can upload them, where the uploading process take less time, than this on mediafire. I can also send some of these works by email, than also contact me please.


I upload maybe tomorrow some other works of Jurjans and Garuta, and than some latvian operas and Eugen Suchon works (Slovakian). Hope You will enjoy them.


If somebody could help me with my problem, I will be gratefull.

Greetings to All of You
Wiktorio30Poland


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: christopher on May 15, 2014, 11:53:52 am
To the opera case, but Latvian opera.

I have recorded these operas (whole and extracts)
 
1. Janis Medins - Uguns us nakts (whole)
2. Janis Medins - Luteklite (extracts)
3. Janis Kalnins - Hamlets (whole)
4. Janis Kalnins - Uguni (extracts)
5. Arvids Zilinskis - Zelta Zirgs (whole)
6. Alfreds Kalnins - Salinieki (extracts)
7. Alfreds Skulte - Princesa Gundega (extracts)
8. Bruno Skulte - DVD Heiress (?) of Vilkaci (whole)

I want to upload them for all of You in some time, but I have a quite problem. My computer doesn't work correctly, and after 5 or 6 hours he is disconnected. Some opera files are quite large, from 250 to 450 Mb and 5 hours could be to short time for uploading probably such one file. The other problem is that, that some of these operas are in one file with comments in latvian. I don't have time to catalogized these works to act 1, or scene 1. If somebody is interested I proove upload them in other programm than mediafire, so please tell me, where I can upload them, where the uploading process take less time, than this on mediafire. I can also send some of these works by email, than also contact me please.


I upload maybe tomorrow some other works of Jurjans and Garuta, and than some latvian operas and Eugen Suchon works (Slovakian). Hope You will enjoy them.


If somebody could help me with my problem, I will be gratefull.

Greetings to All of You
Wiktorio30Poland


Hi Wictorio - do you read Russian?  If yes, you could try this site - http://files.mail.ru/ (http://files.mail.ru/) ... you upload where it says загрузить файл in the grey button...


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: cjvinthechair on May 17, 2014, 02:07:41 pm
Wiktorio - thanks for Jurjans; had missed it on YT !


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Wiktorio30Poland on May 17, 2014, 04:24:36 pm
I also thank You all for Your patient and tolerance.  :)

I will put some works by latvian, slovakian, polish and maybe other composers from time to time. I will also made some folder in this russian site for the operas I have mentioned. Maybe it will be working good, we will see.

Greetings to You all and have nice weekend.  :)


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: cjvinthechair on August 05, 2014, 11:20:39 am
Mr. Latvian - if you happened to find the other 2 parts of the song cycle....?!        Thank you.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: dhibbard on August 07, 2014, 05:00:34 am
I recently picked up J. Rainis Put, Vejini  (Blow, Wind) .   Its a 4 LP set from Melodiya (Riga plant)   if anyone is interested, I'll convert to mediafire later this fall??


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: christopher on August 11, 2014, 11:43:16 am
I recently picked up J. Rainis Put, Vejini  (Blow, Wind) .   Its a 4 LP set from Melodiya (Riga plant)   if anyone is interested, I'll convert to mediafire later this fall??


Hi Dave - sounds interesting - what is it? An opera?


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Jolly Roger on August 12, 2014, 05:30:48 am
As a strong advocate for Skulte's music, I think it may not all click for some folks for one reason.
I may be all wet here but for me, much of it sounds like epic music for Hollywood, ala the Bernard Hermann
era..and that is something I enjoy immensely.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: dhibbard on August 12, 2014, 06:26:55 am
I recently picked up J. Rainis Put, Vejini  (Blow, Wind) .   Its a 4 LP set from Melodiya (Riga plant)   if anyone is interested, I'll convert to mediafire later this fall??


Hi Dave - sounds interesting - what is it? An opera?

I'll let you know as soon as I can drop it onto a turntable back home...


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Elroel on August 13, 2014, 08:49:32 pm
After my recent posts on Latvian opera's, I have still one more complete one: Janis Medins 'Uguns un Nakts'. It will take a day before I can upload this, because the harddisk it is sitting on, is at home (an unconnected extern disk).


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: dhibbard on August 13, 2014, 10:13:56 pm
I've also got a copy of Fire and Night opera.. I recorded it at the Vitols Music Library in Riga. 


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Elroel on August 15, 2014, 12:20:28 am
Just deleted the post with Alfreds Kalniņš opera Baņuta, because this recording is/was commercial available on cd.
Thanks Maris, for this info


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Elroel on August 15, 2014, 12:24:39 am
I've also got a copy of Fire and Night opera.. I recorded it at the Vitols Music Library in Riga. 

Hi Dave,
Is it possible you me send/or post act 1? So the opera is complete?

Thanks

Roelof


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: dhibbard on August 15, 2014, 12:44:43 am
yup.. you can purchase it at balticshop.com  right now !


http://www.balticshop.com/cgi-bin/item.cgi?item=2221&cat=0505&title=Latvian_Opera_and_Vocal


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Elroel on August 15, 2014, 01:15:43 am
Thank you Dave

Roelof


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: christopher on August 15, 2014, 11:33:00 am
yup.. you can purchase it at balticshop.com  right now !


http://www.balticshop.com/cgi-bin/item.cgi?item=2221&cat=0505&title=Latvian_Opera_and_Vocal


Hi Dave - I think Elroel was asking about Janis Medins 'Uguns un Nakts', not Kalninis 'Banuta'....


C


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Greg K on October 30, 2014, 01:22:21 am
I've played through again all the Ivanovs Symphonies recently, - precious and enduring among Latvian's (Maris) Latvian download legacy.  The ones that especially speak to me are 4, 6-8, 11, 14-16, & 20&21, but with this cycle the whole strikes me as much greater than the sum of the parts.  What I mean is how the "mass" of this body of work gives expression to a breadth and depth of perennial human experience that feels at the same time very concretely rooted in a definite time and place, and which combination of "existential" and historical qualities in all the variations and permutations of a large spanned creative life leave indubitably a both personal and philosophical impression on this listener.  Whatever the more compositionally objective deficiencies and/or weaknesses of individual works might be, I hear it as distinctively "genuine" music, emerging from an authentically inner impulse and struggle rather than just written according to abstract form or for incidental occasion.  It's parallels (and some disjunctions) with Myaskovsky's similarly infused great sequence of Symphonies have often especially intrigued and fascinated me, but in any case I'm so appreciative of Latvian's past efforts to make the music of Ivanovs available here.



Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Jolly Roger on October 30, 2014, 02:48:28 am
I've played through again all the Ivanovs Symphonies recently, - precious and enduring among Latvian's (Maris) Latvian download legacy.  The ones that especially speak to me are 4, 6-8, 11, 14-16, & 20&21, but with this cycle the whole strikes me as much greater than the sum of the parts.  What I mean is how the "mass" of this body of work gives expression to a breadth and depth of perennial human experience that feels at the same time very concretely rooted in a definite time and place, and which combination of "existential" and historical qualities in all the variations and permutations of a large spanned creative life leave indubitably a both personal and philosophical impression on this listener.  Whatever the more compositionally objective deficiencies and/or weaknesses of individual works might be, I hear it as distinctively "genuine" music, emerging from an authentically inner impulse and struggle rather than just written according to abstract form or for incidental occasion.  It's parallels with Myaskovsky's similarly infused great sequence of Symphonies have often especially intrigued and fascinated me, but in any case I'm so appreciative of Latvian's past efforts to make the music of Ivanovs available here.



AMEN AND AMEN..Ivanov's Symphonies are indeed a wonderful cycle of symphonies. Perhaps a few may be may be a difficult listen, but I keep coming back because I know I have missed the message. With good audio, I think they are the equal of anyone's.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: dhibbard on November 13, 2014, 12:54:56 am
The Ivanovs Sym #14 (Sinfonia da camera) has been released on CD in the series  "Symphonia Ipsa 125" ......  released in 2005.   2 cd set along with Medins The Blue Mountain and others.. 


This CD celebrates the 125th anniversary of the first Latvian symphonic score and The Year of Latvian Symphonic Music. „This double disc is not meant to be an anthology, as that would require the presence of at least 50 composers, but, by taking a look at the world of nine composers, it still will give the listener a condensed view of nine aspects of Latvian symphonic music" (Arnolds Klotiņš).

Music by Andrejs Jurāns, Marģeris Zariņš, Pēteris Plakidis, Artūrs Grīnups, Jānis Ivanovs, Romualds Kalsons, Pēteris Vasks, Ēriks Ešenvalds.

Performers: Nora Novika (piano), Rafi Haradžanjans (piano), Pēteris Plakidis (piano), the Latvian National Symphony Orchestra, Sinfonia concertante, Riga Chamber Players. Conductors: Leonīds Vīgners, Imants Resnis, Vassily Sinaisky, Normunds Šnē, Andris Vecumnieks, Gints Glinka.

http://www.lmic.lv/core.php/core.php?pageId=754?pageId=770&subPageId=771&pageAction=showSubPage


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: cjvinthechair on November 13, 2014, 11:45:02 am
Mr. Christopher - what a magnificent set of uploads today, particularly, perhaps, the Latvian ones. Thank you so much.
Just wondering - the Kepitis symphony; movements 1 & 3 are clear to see in Mediafire - is the 'track 5' at the top intended to be movement 2 ?


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: christopher on November 13, 2014, 12:02:22 pm
Mr. Christopher - what a magnificent set of uploads today, particularly, perhaps, the Latvian ones. Thank you so much.
Just wondering - the Kepitis symphony; movements 1 & 3 are clear to see in Mediafire - is the 'track 5' at the top intended to be movement 2 ?


Not at all, I hope you enjoy!  I have derived so much pleasure from the music that others have uploaded here, and so am glad to be able to put back in for once!  I have spent a fair amount of time and money acquiring these LPs and cassette, then digitalising them and labelling them up.  And then uploading them to mediafire and putting the notices here (till 3am this morning!) so it's very gratifying to get feedback, thank you! 

You are right about the track name for the Kepitis - this should read Simfonija No.3 for string orchestra - II. Largo  -- I have changed this.

I've got quite a few more postings to make.  All my Latvian and Lithuanian music is now up (until and unless I get some more...), but there's a lot of Russian music to come.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: cjvinthechair on November 13, 2014, 05:38:26 pm
Terrific - thanks; will look forward to some Russian music when you have the time !


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Wiktorio30Poland on November 16, 2014, 01:29:47 pm

[/quote]

Hi Dave,
Is it possible you me send/or post act 1? So the opera is complete?

Thanks

Roelof
[/quote]

Hi Elroel
The complete opera Uguns us nakts is in download section in one mp3


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Elroel on November 16, 2014, 02:00:10 pm
Thank you Wiktorio.

I'll download and listen today.





Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: fr8nks on February 18, 2015, 01:46:50 pm
Thank you very much, rkhenderson, for the Latvian uploads of music of Juris Karlsons. These works were all new to me.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: fr8nks on July 29, 2015, 11:15:46 pm
Thanks, RK, for the Janis Kalnins Violin Concerto. I am a big fan of Latvian music and was unaware that this recording existed.

Frank


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Jolly Roger on July 30, 2015, 10:45:24 pm
Thanks, RK, for the Janis Kalnins Violin Concerto. I am a big fan of Latvian music and was unaware that this recording existed.

Frank
Kalnins is a very interesting and somewhat enigmatic composer for me
I have found his music to be quite uneven, but when he is good he is great..The Volin concerto is a wonderful work..


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Jolly Roger on July 30, 2015, 10:49:49 pm
Thank you very much, rkhenderson, for the Latvian uploads of music of Juris Karlsons. These works were all new to me.
I have found Karlsons music to be of consistently high quality and extremely  enjoyable. He is probably lesser known
only because he is in the midst of so much great Latvian talent. Thanks for making his music more available to everyone..


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: ttle on July 31, 2015, 10:08:54 pm
Thanks, RK, for the Janis Kalnins Violin Concerto. I am a big fan of Latvian music and was unaware that this recording existed.

Frank
Kalnins is a very interesting and somewhat enigmatic composer for me
I have found his music to be quite uneven, but when he is good he is great..The Volin concerto is a wonderful work..
I finally acquired the CD of his Symphony of the Beatitudes (originally composed with texts in English, and later adapted for a Latvian version), with "The brethren cemetery" and the better-known New Brunswick Rhapsody. The symphony's originality is not immediately striking, however it is certainly worth investigating in more depth.
Actually, Jānis Kalniņš, from the only few works I've heard of his, puzzles me less than the much better-known Imants Kalniņš, whose music includes some very striking moments (in his frontal, almost provocative directness) alongside many whose substance I still fail to grasp.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Jolly Roger on August 02, 2015, 10:19:48 pm
Thanks, RK, for the Janis Kalnins Violin Concerto. I am a big fan of Latvian music and was unaware that this recording existed.

Frank
Kalnins is a very interesting and somewhat enigmatic composer for me
I have found his music to be quite uneven, but when he is good he is great..The Volin concerto is a wonderful work..
I finally acquired the CD of his Symphony of the Beatitudes (originally composed with texts in English, and later adapted for a Latvian version), with "The brethren cemetery" and the better-known New Brunswick Rhapsody. The symphony's originality is not immediately striking, however it is certainly worth investigating in more depth.
Actually, Jānis Kalniņš, from the only few works I've heard of his, puzzles me less than the much better-known Imants Kalniņš, whose music includes some very striking moments (in his frontal, almost provocative directness) alongside many whose substance I still fail to grasp.
Imants Kalniņš violin concerto is an awesome and highly original work..


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: fr8nks on August 17, 2015, 01:38:16 pm
Sorry, Roger, Imants Kalnins didn't write a Violin Concerto. You must mean Janis Kalnins.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Toby Esterhase on August 17, 2015, 05:51:03 pm
Sorry, Roger, Imants Kalnins didn't write a Violin Concerto. You must mean Janis Kalnins.
Perhaps Alfreds Kalnins? Are they relative?


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Jolly Roger on August 21, 2015, 05:01:32 am
Sorry, Roger, Imants Kalnins didn't write a Violin Concerto. You must mean Janis Kalnins.
Perhaps Alfreds Kalnins? Are they relative?
sorry for causing the confusion..I need to get the last name right.
let me check to see what I have but I think it was from CBC.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Greg K on August 24, 2015, 12:50:10 am
If indeed CBC you're likely thinking of the Violin Concerto by Talivaldis Kenins recorded on that label.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Jolly Roger on August 31, 2015, 03:50:54 am
If indeed CBC you're likely thinking of the Violin Concerto by Talivaldis Kenins recorded on that label.
Yes..that's it thanks for the correction


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: ttle on October 31, 2015, 11:53:36 pm
Concerning Jānis Kalniņš's violin concerto, it is clear from the recording that its tonality is F sharp minor rather than F minor.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Leea25 on December 03, 2015, 04:04:12 pm
Hi all,

I wanted to utilise your knowledge to answer something that has been bugging me for years. I've just read through the whole Latvian Music thread again and I don't think it's been covered already.

The Campion CD 'Ivanovs Vol 7.' with the piano concerto and 10th symphony. also included a short track which they labelled as the Andante for Cello Ensemble. It's obvious it's actually a piece for string orchestra. When I asked Campion many years ago, they decided that they actually had no idea what it really was. I know it's not a string orchestra arrangement of the Andante, as I have the score for the cello ensemble piece and they are not the same. I also think I'm right in believing I can't post the recording here because it was available commercially. My question, as you may have guessed, is, does anybody know what that piece actually is? It's a lovely piece and I'd like to track down a score and/or parts and perform it.

Thanks a lot,
Lee


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: christopher on December 03, 2015, 10:31:22 pm
When I was in Riga earlier this year I bought an LP called simply "Latvian Music". It has the following symphonic pieces on it, consisting of music by Latvian composers, or by other composers but performed by Latvian artists:

Lavry, Marc (1903-1967) - Kas tie tādi
                                  - Lāčplēšiem
                                  - Dzimtene

Verdi, Giuseppe (1813-1901) - Trubadūrs
                                        - Traviata

Jurjāns, Andrejs (1856-1922) - Nevis slinkojot un pūstot

Mediņš, Jāzeps (1877-1947) - Baudi zaļo jaunību (Enjoy the green youth)
                                       - Meldermeitiņa

Šancbergs, Pēteris (1841-1923) - Es dziļi glāzē ieskatījos

Gounod, Charles (1818-1893) - Fausts

Zommers, V. - Vai gudrās dabas mājiens
                   - Laiks Steidzas Prom (Time rushing away)



...I can't find any info on the last composer, V. Zommers.  Full name, dates, nationality....does anyone know anything of him?





Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Leea25 on December 06, 2015, 07:02:02 pm
Hi Christopher,

Could it be this chap?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladim%C3%ADr_Sommer

Lee


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: madis on December 06, 2015, 09:48:19 pm
These compositions seem to be Latvian student songs, likely traditional in origin, maybe Zommers arranged them at some point. I doubt he was a professional composer.

"Vai gudrās dabas mājiens" appears to be also known as "Cik pulkstens nositis", Googling these titles I found 78 rpm performances by one Ādolfs Kaktiņš (http://audio.lndb.lv/en/objects/performers/performer_kaktins/) (some opera numbers in Latvian there as well), the label of the shellac disc lists the composer only as "student song".


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: christopher on December 07, 2015, 09:00:47 pm
As far as I can tell, Kaktins is the conductor.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Elroel on December 08, 2015, 12:33:59 am
I don't think this Zommers is the same as Vladimir Sommer. Maybe our ember Latvian can enlighten us?


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Latvian on December 10, 2015, 02:06:28 pm
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I don't think this Zommers is the same as Vladimir Sommer. Maybe our member Latvian can enlighten us?

Quite right -- no relationship between the two whatsoever. As far as I can tell, "V. Zommers" was merely on of many faceless arrangers of popular music in the 1930s in Latvia. I've never found any further information on him in years of exhaustive research.

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As far as I can tell, Kaktins is the conductor.

Alfrēds Kaktiņš is the soloist. He was a renowned operatic baritone in Latvia in the interwar period and was among the many Latvian who fled when the USSR re-occupied Latvia in 1944. He died in Los Angeles in 1965 at the age of 80. He was also one of many prominent singers who recorded "light" much in the vein of current crossover artists.

The recordings on this CD are all reissues from 1930s recordings originally issued on 78 RPM discs on either the Bellaccord-Electro label and/or HMV. In all cases the orchestra and conductor are anonymous, never having been acknowledged on the original issues. Many of these recordings were also reissued on LP in the 1960s on the Latvian Music label in Sweden.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: calyptorhynchus on June 19, 2016, 10:55:11 pm
Just uploaded Vasks Viola Concerto. Another masterpiece! Enjoy.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: tapiola on June 20, 2016, 12:28:25 am
Most sincere gratitude!


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Dundonnell on June 20, 2016, 01:23:58 am
Just uploaded Vasks Viola Concerto. Another masterpiece! Enjoy.

It is simply gorgeous!


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: fr8nks on June 29, 2016, 01:26:08 pm
Thanks for the Vasks.


Title: Re: Latvian music
Post by: Corentin Boissier on December 27, 2018, 08:44:13 pm
The last 2 minutes are missing in the file of KALSONS Romualds: "Symphony for Chamber Orchestra No. 2 (Somu simfonija [Finnish Symphony])" (1992), LMA-orķestris Sinfonia Concertante, Andris Vecumnieks.
The file ends abruptly.
If you could re-upload the work in its entirety, I would be very grateful...
Corentin Boissier