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Title: Norwegian Music
Post by: Dundonnell on August 28, 2013, 11:10:39 pm
It rather reinforces the point I made in the first sentence of my post about Halvor Haug that I had to start a new thread in order to thank Mathias for posting an upload of Haug's "Il Preludio dell Ignoto" :)


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: calyptorhynchus on September 09, 2013, 12:43:00 am
"Ragnar Söderlind (b. 1945)

Symphony No. 5 ‘Kvitsunn’ Op. 60 (1995)"

What does Kvitsunn mean? I get "white health" out of Google Translate!?


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: Dundonnell on September 09, 2013, 01:57:27 pm
"Whitsunday".


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: Dundonnell on March 02, 2015, 02:35:57 am
Many thanks to rbert12 for the two pieces by Knut Nystedt :)

I had not heard that Nystedt-the doyen of Norwegian composers-had actually died last December at the grand age of 99.  Nystedt was a very interesting composer. I compiled a catalogue of his orchestral and choral music which is probably still to be found on this website. The choral music was probably slightly better known but-in common with most Norwegian composers-Nystedt's music remains mostly unknown outside Norway. It is lamentable and very very sad that the Norwegians have been so much more shy than say the Danes or Finns in making music by their native composers available on disc.


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: BrianA on March 11, 2015, 01:50:34 pm
For those interested (and I know at least one or two of you would be  :D) I just posted a link to a recording of Halvor Haug's Symphony no 4, which I was fortunate enough to obtain from a fellow collector in another forum.  He recorded it from Swedish radio some years ago, but I'm reasonably certain that the performance itself comes from the infamous, elusive "Warner/Chappell promotional CD" that also contains the fifth symphony.  For those of you scrupulous enough to balk at downloading a recording that originates, even at one or two removes, with a CD, relax! I cleared it with forum management before posting it   ;D.  Enjoy!

Four down, one to go...


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: Dundonnell on March 11, 2015, 11:35:40 pm
I suspect that you just may be referring to me (amongst others no doubt) ;D ;D

Well...since I am on record as repeatedly begging for a recording of the Haug Symphonies Nos. 4 and 5 without really believing that my entreaties would be satisfied.........

all I can say is a heartfelt Thank You :)

Already the Fourth Symphony reinforces my very high opinion of Haug the composer and my deep regret that his compositional voice seems to have fallen silent.


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: BrianA on March 11, 2015, 11:49:33 pm
A perfectly reasonable suspicion, Colin!   ;)


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: calyptorhynchus on March 12, 2015, 06:35:17 am
Thanks for Haug 4, a wonderful piece. Do I understand you to say there is a recording of No.1 available somewhere?


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: calyptorhynchus on March 12, 2015, 06:39:42 am
Whoops, I mena No.2, that's the one I'm missing of the first 4.


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: relm1 on March 12, 2015, 11:11:14 am
I have haug's symphonies no. 1, 2, 3 but they are commercial releases I am sure easily available online...all are fine works.


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: BrianA on March 12, 2015, 02:51:17 pm
Haug's no. 2 was available on an Aurora (or possibly Simax, not quite sure without checking) CD that I'm pretty sure is out of print but that still occasionally shows up on Amazon, albeit at generally inflated prices, or maybe even e-bay.  I managed to snag a copy on amazon.de or.uk within the past year or so at a not too outrageous price, but I can't find any current listings.  It also used to be available as a download at some Norwegian site that I can no longer find.


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: relm1 on March 12, 2015, 03:38:41 pm
Haug's no. 2 was available on an Aurora (or possibly Simax, not quite sure without checking) CD that I'm pretty sure is out of print but that still occasionally shows up on Amazon, albeit at generally inflated prices, or maybe even e-bay.  I managed to snag a copy on amazon.de or.uk within the past year or so at a not too outrageous price, but I can't find any current listings.  It also used to be available as a download at some Norwegian site that I can no longer find.

The publisher has this CD for sale:
http://nb.bibits.no/wsRecInfo.asp?idno=57268&UnitId=0&DocGrp=0&SearchUnitId=0&LoanUnitId=1&comb=AND&sString=FO=haug,%20halvorAND%20TITLE_DOCUMENT_GROUP_ID=3AND%20searchUnitId0&page=2&language=Eng

In fact, all symphonies (including No. 5) are available on CD from the publisher.


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: BrianA on March 12, 2015, 08:17:36 pm
Here's a listing from amazon.com for the Haug no 2 at the perfectly reasonable price of US$19.99:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B001PC5MNM/ref=tmm_other_meta_binding_used_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=used&sr=1-6&qid=1426187418

Relm1, are you SURE CDs of the Haug symphonies are available for purchase via the link you posted?  I'm still pretty unhandy at finding my way around the web sometimes, so it could be I'm just being stupid, but I haven't been able to make the right connections so far.  If I could get it to work I would certainly purchase the fifth (or fourth and fifth, as the case may be).


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: calyptorhynchus on March 12, 2015, 10:52:30 pm
The link that relm1 has posted seems to be sheet music.


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: BrianA on March 13, 2015, 02:11:49 am
That's what I thought too.  I was just wondering if there was a link for CDs/recordings that I had managed to miss.


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: relm1 on March 13, 2015, 07:34:11 am
The link that relm1 has posted seems to be sheet music.

The link item that says "format: cd" is sheet music?  The contents of which exactly match my cd?  But what do I know.  And someone else posted to the Amazon link which is the same CD for the same price I paid for it.


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: magmasystems on March 19, 2015, 02:54:12 am
My thanks too for the rare Haug recording.


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: magmasystems on March 19, 2015, 01:34:32 pm
An article on the performance of Symphony No. 4
http://www.ballade.no/sak/oslo-filharmonien-urfremforer-halvor-haugs-symfoni-nr-4/ (http://www.ballade.no/sak/oslo-filharmonien-urfremforer-halvor-haugs-symfoni-nr-4/)


There is no doubt that Haug's music has deep roots in the Nordic symphonic tradition. From these roots has grown a musical world full of strong emotion, drama and intellect; properties reflecting the composers personality, feelings, temperament, courage strength and originality. His masterly orchestration is much revered. Halvor Haug has the ability to take care of modernistic elements and composition techniques that have emerged in the postwar years and dynamically apply these in a more traditional sounding music. Haug's music can therefore really be seen as innovative, and difficult counted among the neo-romantic undercurrents currently going over the world. Nevertheless he on several occasions been described as being a romantic.

Halvor Haug was born in Trondheim in 1952 and grew up in west Bærum outside Oslo. Following studies in Oslo, Helsinki and London he soon became one of Norway's most significant composers. His symphonies and many smaller orchestral works have attracted significant attention in Norwegian and international music.

About his fourth symphony says Halvor Haug: - Symphony No.. 4 was completed before Christmas. It is written in a single rate for a typical large orchestra. The work is dedicated to all the innocent victims of terrorism and their families around the world. On me, as on most other people, did what happened last autumn a huge impression. The only way I can show a commitment to, or try to express emotion, to let it get expired in music. Of course I have not embarked me on to try and describe such earthshaking events. It was never in my thoughts. An artistic expression is for me my way to signal an attempt to communicate on an intellectual and emotional level. To use an expression needs to describe something as cruel as what happened on September 11, would be unthinkable for me. Then an expression means grotesque and incredibly naive. The symphony is naturally characterized by the impotence and sadness I felt, but after all, I hope that also an optimism has been expressed. Without it I would never have been able to write a new symphony.

Symphony No.. 4 is commissioned by the Oslo Philharmonic, with funding from the Norwegian Society of Composers. Administration performed in Oslo Concert at 19.30, Thursday 14th and Friday 15th February 2002. On the program are Mozart's "Requiem".


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: tapiola on March 19, 2015, 02:26:09 pm
m4a is unusable.  Can you provide mp3?  Thank you.


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: calyptorhynchus on March 19, 2015, 09:48:35 pm
I have a Mac there's a little program you can download called Switch which enables you to convert various sound file formats to each other. It takes a couple of minutes to convert an m4a to mp3.

Switch is trialware, ie after a certain number of uses it locks and you have to pay for it (can't remember how much it was). However, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a similar free product, for Mac or PC.


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: Jolly Roger on March 19, 2015, 09:57:17 pm
I have a Mac there's a little program you can download called Switch which enables you to convert various sound file formats to each other. It takes a couple of minutes to convert an m4a to mp3.

Switch is trialware, ie after a certain number of uses it locks and you have to pay for it (can't remember how much it was). However, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a similar free product, for Mac or PC.
agreed..there are many free conversion programs for The PC and MAC
C-net should be of help.
http://index.about.com/index?q=Free+Convert+Mp4+to+MP3&qsrc=6&o=29572&l=sem&qo=relatedSearchNarrow


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: oldfezzi on March 20, 2015, 05:18:24 pm
Roxio Creator NXT Pro also has a very good converter.

OF


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: Clambert on March 25, 2015, 06:40:41 pm
I remember a very impressive piece by John Persen on that Unicorn double LP of Norwegian music that Per Dreir made in the 70s; I shall be very interested to hear another piece by him, so thanks magmasystems for the upload. And of course I concur that any more Solderlind is always welcome, if you have any?


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: Dundonnell on January 28, 2016, 02:06:48 am
As a huge admirer of the music of Ragnar Soderlind can I express my heartfelt gratitude to magmasystems for the upload of the Requiem.

This massive work dates from 2009 and its full title is “A Nordic Requiem: a Mass for the Living and the Dead” for seven soloists, chorus and orchestra, op.104.

Given the size and scope of the work-it lasts for well over 2 hours and the tragic neglect of Soderlind this is, almost certainly, our only opportunity to hear it.

Profound thanks :)


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: Malito on January 28, 2016, 03:23:10 am
I have always been a huge fan of Soderlind ever since the piece about the desert (name escapes me) for Oboe and orchestra.  I am so thrilled to have this, Colin!  Malcolm


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: magmasystems on January 28, 2016, 11:03:53 am
It's a pleasure to provide this to the members of the forum. Enjoy. I often feel that this forum is the only gather spot for fans of Ragnar :-)

Now we have to do a bit of the same for Halvor Haug !


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: Dundonnell on January 28, 2016, 03:43:14 pm
I have always been a huge fan of Soderlind ever since the piece about the desert (name escapes me) for Oboe and orchestra.  I am so thrilled to have this, Colin!  Malcolm

"Two Pieces from the Desert" for Oboe and small orchestra, op.21B (1973/75). I have not heard that work, Malcolm.


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: Greg K on January 28, 2016, 04:27:19 pm
Wonderful to have Soderlind's Requiem, - I concur.  Thanks for this.


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: Malito on January 28, 2016, 07:06:43 pm
Dundonnell:

I wish I could upload things but I am all thumbs when it comes to computers....Soderlind's "Two Pieces from the Desert" for oboe and orchestra might be his most exciting works.  Hopefully someone on this site will have it and know how to upload it.  If not, I can always send you a copy in the mail.  Malito (Malcolm)


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: magmasystems on January 31, 2016, 01:09:04 pm
I didn't even know that this was on YouTube already:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoVO8EabT7U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoVO8EabT7U)


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: Dundonnell on February 01, 2016, 12:26:44 pm
The video does not work and the original has been removed from You Tube :(


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: magmasystems on February 01, 2016, 12:45:39 pm
Hi Colin,

I clicked on the link and it worked just fine. Maybe the video is blocked in certain countries?

What I can do is capture the video and share it somewhere else.


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: magmasystems on February 01, 2016, 01:17:16 pm
I captured the audio and put it here:

https://www.mediafire.com/?lufb8i5jmnazc0z (https://www.mediafire.com/?lufb8i5jmnazc0z)

It's a MP4 file.

Funny, but Video Downloader couldn't capture it. It said something about the media being empty and maybe being protected.


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: Dundonnell on February 01, 2016, 01:57:45 pm
Thank you for that-yes, I suspect that the clip is banned here.

However what we have is 4 minutes worth of music. The Two Pieces last 11 minutes. It looks as though this is but one of them :(


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: relm1 on February 02, 2016, 12:41:05 am
It's a pleasure to provide this to the members of the forum. Enjoy. I often feel that this forum is the only gather spot for fans of Ragnar :-)

Now we have to do a bit of the same for Halvor Haug !

Thank you for posting Soderling's Requiem...I was thoroughly engaged throughout its duration.  Do you by any chance have "The Wasteland", his oratorio on a similar scale?


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: magmasystems on February 02, 2016, 01:29:58 am
Sorry, I don't.


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: Greg K on February 03, 2016, 05:33:55 pm
It's a pleasure to provide this to the members of the forum. Enjoy. I often feel that this forum is the only gather spot for fans of Ragnar :-)

Now we have to do a bit of the same for Halvor Haug !

Thank you for posting Soderling's Requiem...I was thoroughly engaged throughout its duration.  Do you by any chance have "The Wasteland", his oratorio on a similar scale?

I've not gotten past the huge 1rst movement of Soderlind's Requiem, but that is superlative and captivating, with an especially wonderful baritone solo (great voice whoever it is).


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: magmasystems on February 04, 2016, 01:53:09 pm
I found the second half:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COhUS4FAM5g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COhUS4FAM5g)


Thank you for that-yes, I suspect that the clip is banned here.

However what we have is 4 minutes worth of music. The Two Pieces last 11 minutes. It looks as though this is but one of them :(


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: Dundonnell on February 05, 2016, 04:49:42 pm
Could you please capture it-as you did with the first part-and post a link here. The YT video is not available in the UK and will not play.

Thanks :)


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: magmasystems on February 05, 2016, 04:51:20 pm
I did that already. Look at my edited message in the downloads discussions forum. I added another link.


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: Dundonnell on February 05, 2016, 05:09:53 pm
I did that already. Look at my edited message in the downloads discussions forum. I added another link.

Ah...I have found it. The two links are actually in the Downloads forum. Thank you very much indeed :)


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: shamus on February 05, 2016, 06:49:54 pm
Well, I tried the Soderlind Requiem, don't know if I had a bleed through or not, but the tango section puzzled me--I see dead people tangoing-- and I decided not to pursue the whole thing. I know, me philistine...


Title: Re: Norwegian Music
Post by: BrianA on April 02, 2016, 01:56:21 pm
I am just now starting to "get into" the Soderlind Requiem, so kindly provided by magmasystems, and I was just wondering: does anybody have any further information on the performers?  I was thinking the soloists in particular deserve some sort of recognition, if at all possible.    ;D

Brian