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Title: Proms 2013
Post by: Albion on April 18, 2013, 06:26:47 pm
As every concert will be broadcast, this seems a good place to start looking at the 2013 Proms season -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms (http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms)

A welcome feature of the season is the prominence given to substantial works by Granville Bantock (1868-1946):

Sapphic Poem (24th July)

Pierrot of the Minute (31st July)

Celtic Symphony (21st August)

The Witch of Atlas (30th August)

Sea Reivers (7th September - last night)

 :)


Title: Re: Proms 2013
Post by: cilgwyn on April 18, 2013, 07:57:31 pm
Marvellous! :) What a suprise. Let's hope they become regular visitors.

Holbrooke's 'Ulalume',next year?!! ::) :)


Title: Re: Proms 2013
Post by: jimfin on April 18, 2013, 10:22:37 pm
That is excellent news! I don't know if I remember Bantock ever being featured at the Proms at all!


Title: Re: Proms 2013
Post by: cilgwyn on April 19, 2013, 02:08:29 am
Well,the Prom 'planners' have certainly baffled our old 'friend' Andrew Clements at the Guardian,with all this Bantock (and Tchaikovsky symphonies)! He has a point though,in a way! ::) ;D I wonder what brought this all on? As Clements points out,no apparent anniversary;although he does speculate that Sakari Oramo's 'arrival' (as BBSO chief conductor) may have something to do with it! Of course,unlike Clements,I think Bantock thoroughly deserves to be heard at the Proms. I DO like the way he refers to lovers of Bantock as 'Bantockians'! Look out Andrew......we're coming to get you!! ;D


Title: Re: Proms 2013
Post by: Dundonnell on April 19, 2013, 02:22:41 am
Why do you read the silly man ???


Title: Re: Proms 2013
Post by: Dundonnell on April 19, 2013, 02:29:01 am
Yes, yes......let's hear it for Parry, Stanford, German, Bantock, Walford Davies, Holbrooke, Cyril Scott, John Foulds, York Bowen (all born between 1848 and 1884) ;D ;D ;D

By the time my favourite generation-all born between around 1906 and 1922-come back into fashion I shall be dead :(


Title: Re: Proms 2013
Post by: Gauk on April 19, 2013, 08:02:54 am
I get annoyed at this cult of the centenary, as if it were the only reason for playing someone's music.


Title: Re: Proms 2013
Post by: Neil McGowan on April 19, 2013, 10:04:32 am
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I get annoyed at this cult of the centenary, as if it were the only reason for playing someone's music.

The most witless kind of programming imaginable, I'm afraid :(

Delighted to see Alsop conducting, saddened that she's consigned to the LNOTP dross :(


Title: Re: Proms 2013
Post by: cilgwyn on April 19, 2013, 12:23:10 pm
Why do you read the silly man ???
I try not to! I just put 'Bantock Proms' into Google after reading Albion's post & the Guardian item was the only 'article' (if that's the right word for it) that came up. Unfortunately,curiosity overcame me! It just is an interesting point in an otherwise uninteresting article. I mean,why now? Of course,you could say,who cares,just enjoy? And,why not?! But it would be interesting to know who is behind this? Is it a fluke? Is it evidence of a shift towards concert programming of composers like Bantock,who have been previously ignored? Are they perhaps testing the water? i.e. If the response is favourable can we expect more? (Or,is it all just a coincidence? Let me see,Brian's Gothic,now Bantock? Interesting that? Hm?!!! ::))
And yes,I'm not too keen on this centenary 'fetish' either......except when it relates to a composer I like!! ;D


Title: Re: Proms 2013
Post by: Gauk on April 19, 2013, 02:12:00 pm
The other idiocy that enrages me is hearing announcers saying things like, "several composers have anniversaries this year". EVERY composer has an anniversary EVERY year! It's what the word means ...


Title: Re: Proms 2013
Post by: JimL on April 19, 2013, 06:32:39 pm
The other idiocy that enrages me is hearing announcers saying things like, "several composers have anniversaries this year". EVERY composer has an anniversary EVERY year! It's what the word means ...
Are you sure he didn't say "centenaries"?


Title: Re: Proms 2013
Post by: Gauk on April 20, 2013, 12:09:08 am
The other idiocy that enrages me is hearing announcers saying things like, "several composers have anniversaries this year". EVERY composer has an anniversary EVERY year! It's what the word means ...
Are you sure he didn't say "centenaries"?

I'm afraid so, and it is not an isolated case.


Title: Re: Proms 2013
Post by: lescamil on April 20, 2013, 08:15:19 am
I love that there is a "cult of the centenary", for we get to hear a lot more Lutoslawski, Britten, and Tippett! I'm a pretty happy guy for this reason.


Title: Re: Proms 2013
Post by: JimL on April 20, 2013, 03:34:14 pm
The other idiocy that enrages me is hearing announcers saying things like, "several composers have anniversaries this year". EVERY composer has an anniversary EVERY year! It's what the word means ...
Are you sure he didn't say "centenaries"?

I'm afraid so, and it is not an isolated case.
He probably meant centenary, and would have said it if he hadn't been such a nimrod.


Title: Re: Proms 2013
Post by: Gauk on April 20, 2013, 03:47:56 pm
I'm not talking about one isolated case, and you can find it in print as well as on radio.


Title: Re: Proms 2013
Post by: Paulp on April 23, 2013, 07:21:15 pm
For all the ambivalence that the "cult of the centenary" can engender, I for one am not displeased to see George Lloyd peeking from behind the shoulder of a far more celebrated fellow centenarian from these shores: I believe he has been represented at the Proms only once before (Symphony 6 in 1981 under the much-missed Ted Downes, if memory serves).


Title: Re: Proms 2013
Post by: jimfin on April 24, 2013, 02:39:45 am
I quite agree about Lloyd: after his revival in the 80s and 90s, he seems to have dropped back a bit, but in my opinion he is one of the finest composers of his time. Downes was certainly a good champion of his music.


Title: Re: Proms 2013
Post by: jimfin on April 24, 2013, 03:32:17 am
I've just noticed that the Lloyd is the Requiem, one of the most beautiful of all his works, I think. I wish he'd turned to choral music a bit earlier: he was amazingly good at it! For a work with only organ accompaniment, it has such a full sound. I'd request it for my own funeral, if I thought there was any chance of anyone giving me a requiem!